New Suspension Direction Idea: Stupid or Smart? - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

TIMSPEED · 12-07-2004, 01:19 PM

Since I can never be happy with how low my truck is, I've decided to put the ART Cool Ride in the front of my truck. However, the guy who's painting my truck, is also a fabricator, so he said he could make me the brackets and get me the bags, all for $150. So, I'm going to have those in the front, with shraeder valves, so I can set the truck exactly where I want it, and go have it aligned. For the rear, I'm just going to add a 2" shackle, and C-Notch the frame, and be done with that.
Does anyone think this is a stupid idea?

C-10volvo · 12-07-2004, 04:47 PM

sounds like a smart idea. but just to be safe, buy a a tank and compressor that is large enough to do the rear also. just incase you want to add it later.

7T2 · 12-07-2004, 05:16 PM

When I got my coolride kit for my '62 belair I was amazed at how simple it was for the price. I think on the truck I'll either make the brackets myself or have someone make them for me.

When you figure that you can get a decent set of air bags for $150.00 or so and a set of shocks for say $50.00, that means the brackets in my kit cost $300.00! I like the guys at ART, and I know they have a business to run and all, but the reality is that there is about $50.00 in metal in the bracketry, tops.

BaggedC10 · 12-07-2004, 05:52 PM

Purchase the upper and lower brackets from www.*****************, TIMSPEED. At $60(?), you can't go wrong w/ these lazer cut items.

BTW, you won't be happy w/ only having schrader valves and a static drop out back. Save your money and go all out. Do it once, do it right.

TIMSPEED · 12-07-2004, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by BaggedC10

BTW, you won't be happy w/ only having schrader valves and a static drop out back. Save your money and go all out. Do it once, do it right.

Yeah, but if I do the bags in the front, then LATER, if i DO decide to do bags in the rear, I add the 4-link, buy a tank/compressor and be set.

Prerunner1982 · 12-07-2004, 06:25 PM

Tim, if you go with the shrader valves, run them up and within easy reach but still fairly hidden... like your grille or up under the hood and mounted to your inner fenders..

bagged_and_bodydrop · 12-07-2004, 06:57 PM

Id run smc valves, fast, and affordable, and the best one of the best brands on the market, suicide doors always has them in stock. You can make brackets, but for the time it takes you can order them lazer cut from suicide doors, and there great brackets, Id run firestone or conitech air bags, 6 gallone 8 port tank, viar 450 compressor, and run the comprssor off a switch but buy a preasure switch so it wont void your warrenty.

TIMSPEED · 12-07-2004, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by bagged_and_bodydrop

Id run smc valves, fast, and affordable, and the best one of the best brands on the market, suicide doors always has them in stock. You can make brackets, but for the time it takes you can order them lazer cut from suicide doors, and there great brackets, Id run firestone or conitech air bags, 6 gallone 8 port tank, viar 450 compressor, and run the comprssor off a switch but buy a preasure switch so it wont void your warrenty.

I'm not going to completely bag my truck right now. I'm just going to bag the FRONT, with NO on-board controls. I'm just going to use my home air compressor to fill them. I'm not doing them to show-off, just for more adjustability and ride comfort.

The Dude · 12-07-2004, 09:52 PM

sounds like a good idea to me. you get what you want for now and later you can upgrade pretty easily. the only problem i could see is what if the bags lose air or something, with no on board compressor how will you fill them up to continue driving? or will the truck be setup so that it is still drivable with no air in the bags?

TIMSPEED · 12-08-2004, 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by The Dude

sounds like a good idea to me. you get what you want for now and later you can upgrade pretty easily. the only problem i could see is what if the bags lose air or something, with no on board compressor how will you fill them up to continue driving? or will the truck be setup so that it is still drivable with no air in the bags?

Bumpstops will be set so that if the bag is TOTALLY deflated, it's STILL driveable.

**N2TRUX** · 12-08-2004, 02:23 AM

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Originally Posted by TIMSPEED

Bumpstops will be set so that if the bag is TOTALLY deflated, it's STILL driveable.

If it's totally deflated it will roll, but not really be "driveable" at anything more than an idle....trust me on this one.

Tim I think your setting yourself up to be dissappointed. Without the ability to adjust your pressure on the fly, you aren't going to appreciate the benefits of air springs.

If you can't afford the entire system, buy it piece at a time till you have everything to do it right.....

BaggedC10 · 12-08-2004, 05:08 AM

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Originally Posted by N2TRUX

If it's totally deflated it will roll, but not really be "driveable" at anything more than an idle....trust me on this one.

Tim I think your setting yourself up to be dissappointed. Without the ability to adjust your pressure on the fly, you aren't going to appreciate the benefits of air springs.

If you can't afford the entire system, buy it piece at a time till you have everything to do it right.....

I agree 100%.

Like a cheese burger w/o cheese, it just isn't the same.

12-07-2004, 01:19 PM	#1
TIMSPEED Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Modesto, CA Posts: 1,321	New Suspension Direction Idea: Stupid or Smart? Since I can never be happy with how low my truck is, I've decided to put the ART Cool Ride in the front of my truck. However, the guy who's painting my truck, is also a fabricator, so he said he could make me the brackets and get me the bags, all for $150. So, I'm going to have those in the front, with shraeder valves, so I can set the truck exactly where I want it, and go have it aligned. For the rear, I'm just going to add a 2" shackle, and C-Notch the frame, and be done with that. Does anyone think this is a stupid idea? __________________ I have a few cars... See Them Here

12-07-2004, 04:47 PM	#2
C-10volvo Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Location: Lake Oswego, Oregon Posts: 1,028	sounds like a smart idea. but just to be safe, buy a a tank and compressor that is large enough to do the rear also. just incase you want to add it later. __________________ Ken Morgan For fun: 1964 Volvo 122 For slow: 1984 Chevrolet C-10 For everything else: 1997 BMW M3

12-07-2004, 05:52 PM	#4
BaggedC10 Under construction! Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: NorCal Posts: 1,065	Purchase the upper and lower brackets from www.****************, TIMSPEED. At $60(?), you can't go wrong w/ these lazer cut items. BTW, you won't be happy w/ only having schrader valves and a static drop out back. Save your money and go all out. Do it once, do it right. __________________ 2001 Silverado bagged on 22's. Sold*

12-07-2004, 06:57 PM	#7
bagged_and_bodydrop Just drag it Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: ardmore, oklahoma Posts: 98	valves Id run smc valves, fast, and affordable, and the best one of the best brands on the market, suicide doors always has them in stock. You can make brackets, but for the time it takes you can order them lazer cut from suicide doors, and there great brackets, Id run firestone or conitech air bags, 6 gallone 8 port tank, viar 450 compressor, and run the comprssor off a switch but buy a preasure switch so it wont void your warrenty. Attached Images

12-07-2004, 05:16 PM	#3
7T2 Active Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Marysville, OH Posts: 667	When I got my coolride kit for my '62 belair I was amazed at how simple it was for the price. I think on the truck I'll either make the brackets myself or have someone make them for me. When you figure that you can get a decent set of air bags for $150.00 or so and a set of shocks for say $50.00, that means the brackets in my kit cost $300.00! I like the guys at ART, and I know they have a business to run and all, but the reality is that there is about $50.00 in metal in the bracketry, tops.

12-07-2004, 06:25 PM	#6
Prerunner1982 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Edmond, OK Posts: 5,904	Tim, if you go with the shrader valves, run them up and within easy reach but still fairly hidden... like your grille or up under the hood and mounted to your inner fenders..

12-07-2004, 09:52 PM	#9
The Dude Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: glendale/tucson Posts: 199	sounds like a good idea to me. you get what you want for now and later you can upgrade pretty easily. the only problem i could see is what if the bags lose air or something, with no on board compressor how will you fill them up to continue driving? or will the truck be setup so that it is still drivable with no air in the bags?



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