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68on22s · 10-20-2004, 05:53 PM

is there power steering boxes that bolt on to like 67 68 non power steering trucks.I know everyone has these but I dont know much about steering.

arkracing · 10-20-2004, 06:01 PM

73-85 or 87 Power steering boxes should bolt onto your 67-72...you may have to modify the left front bumper bracket.

Anyone else done this?

Tx Firefighter · 10-20-2004, 09:29 PM

He'll need to dimple the frame on a 67 truck.

68w/sbc406 · 10-20-2004, 10:05 PM

i have a 86 P/S box on mine. i think somewhere they change to metric but not sure. it has to be a 2wd turck too. the 4wd ones wont work.

Longhorn Man · 10-20-2004, 10:10 PM

around 80 or so, they went to metric.
Yes, on a 67 and early 68 frame, you'll need to dimple the frame just a little where the box will hit. Once you go to install the box, you'll know where to dimple it. Don't just use washers to space the box out, you'll mess up the geomitry and cause wear on the box.

purple gas · 10-23-2004, 07:12 PM

Dimple?? You mean I shouldn't have used the angle grinder?

**john** · 10-23-2004, 07:52 PM

Heres a pic I saved from another post. John

68w/sbc406 · 10-23-2004, 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by purple gas

Dimple?? You mean I shouldn't have used the angle grinder?

sledge hammer

Bryan H · 10-23-2004, 10:30 PM

I took a small propane torch and heated mine before I started banging on it. Seemed to make it a little easier. I didn't have it glowing red but I heated it pretty good and then cooled it with a water soaked rag.
Bryan

purple gas · 10-24-2004, 10:42 AM

That looks differnt from my box. I got mine from a 68 chevy, and it bolted right in. Only had to trim the rad support bracket , I think. I still haven't done the bumper bracket.

Longhorn Man · 10-24-2004, 10:48 AM

Purple, you may have purchased the hard to find (and problem prone) Ram assist power steering.
You have any pics of it?
Bryan....I'm thinking that is not a good way to cool the frame. I may be mistaken, (and ppl eplease jump in if I am) bit quenching it like that makes the metal brittle.

Tx Firefighter · 10-24-2004, 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Longhorn Man

Bryan....I'm thinking that is not a good way to cool the frame. I may be mistaken, (and ppl eplease jump in if I am) bit quenching it like that makes the metal brittle.

Yep, you need to let the frame cool on it's own. If you rush the cooling by quenching it, it will tend to harden the frame in that area. You want your frame nice and soft.

purple gas · 10-24-2004, 11:26 AM

no visible rams on my box, just looks like a normal power steering box. I doubt if it was original to the truck I got it from, it was shimmed out with about 3-4 washers on every bolt. but it seemed to bolt right on to my truck wich was original manual steering,after I notched the frame by the rad support bracket ?got no pix.( cause I can't figure out my camera's software), and my trucks in the muffler shop till monday anyways .. It was built in Canada, could that mean it was already dimpled? Crap. now the suspense is killing me. Maybe I won't get to finally drive the damn thing tomorrow? Hope I'm not hijacking this thread?

Longhorn Man · 10-24-2004, 07:17 PM

OK, the spacers you mention, that explains it.
I would remove the spacers ASAP personally. It can lead to premature wear on the gear box, and if the bolts get stresed, the added leverage can break them, and if one goes, the others would be soon to follow.

bluec10 · 10-24-2004, 08:18 PM

I bolted a ps box from an '84 onto my 68 frame with no "dimple" needed. In fact, all I had to do was drill one hole. I never drove the truck so I don't know if it was installed the right way. I'd like to do the same thing with my '69 - am I installing the thing the wrong way?

Longhorn Man · 10-24-2004, 09:11 PM

SOme 68's were made with the dimple from what I understand. I have never seen one, but my hands on with 67/68 is very limited.
Don't worry about your 69...it's set up for the later model gear box.

68w/sbc406 · 10-25-2004, 12:31 AM

my 68 has a factory dimple

cheyenne10 · 12-09-2004, 12:03 PM

I talked to a guy with a 68 frame and no dimple. He had a PS box bolted up to it without spacers or dimple. It looked like it snugged up tight and was close fit. Does anyone know what steering box combo this could have been? Aren't there a new style PS box that works on our trucks but uses different PS hose fittings? Which years of PS boxes are these and how might the boxes be different? (ratios, mouting holes, hoses needed, etc.)

Truck is not on road yet just need to get it right in mock up stages.

MOTHERTRUCKERS · 12-09-2004, 08:25 PM

I have a 67 setup if you need it, worked when pulled a few years ago and stored inside 75.00 + shipping.

10-20-2004, 05:53 PM	#1
68on22s 68 in progress Join Date: May 2004 Location: hamilton ohio Posts: 50	power steering is there power steering boxes that bolt on to like 67 68 non power steering trucks.I know everyone has these but I dont know much about steering.

10-20-2004, 06:01 PM	#2
arkracing Weekend Warrior Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: CT Posts: 1,787	73+ 73-85 or 87 Power steering boxes should bolt onto your 67-72...you may have to modify the left front bumper bracket. Anyone else done this? __________________ -'07 GMC Sierra K2500HD -'66 C10 Suburban -'68/'71 K20 Service Bed Project -'69 Chevy C30 Mason Dump -'33Ford P/U 396ChevyPowered

10-20-2004, 09:29 PM	#3
Tx Firefighter Watch out for your cornhole ! Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Azle, Texas Posts: 14,162	He'll need to dimple the frame on a 67 truck. __________________ I'm on the Instagram- @Gearhead_Kevin

10-20-2004, 10:05 PM	#4
68w/sbc406 Got Light Emitting Diode? Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Newberg, OR Posts: 2,485	i have a 86 P/S box on mine. i think somewhere they change to metric but not sure. it has to be a 2wd turck too. the 4wd ones wont work. __________________ 1968 1/2 ton 2wd lwb 6 lug disc and bags up front. Next c notch and rear bags '02 Chevy Silverado LT ext cab short bed 2WD 5/7 drop on 22's(the family car) 1993 Cherokee work ride/weekend wheeler

10-23-2004, 07:52 PM	#7
john member #16 Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Yuba City Ca. Posts: 3,618	Heres a pic I saved from another post. John Attached Images __________________ john http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/showgroups.php board vendors http://www.flickr.com/photos/1745471...7602865984234/

10-20-2004, 10:10 PM	#5
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	around 80 or so, they went to metric. Yes, on a 67 and early 68 frame, you'll need to dimple the frame just a little where the box will hit. Once you go to install the box, you'll know where to dimple it. Don't just use washers to space the box out, you'll mess up the geomitry and cause wear on the box.

10-23-2004, 07:12 PM	#6
purple gas Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: saskatoon, planet earth Posts: 686	Dimple?? You mean I shouldn't have used the angle grinder?

10-23-2004, 10:30 PM	#9
Bryan H Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Chesnee SC Posts: 254	I took a small propane torch and heated mine before I started banging on it. Seemed to make it a little easier. I didn't have it glowing red but I heated it pretty good and then cooled it with a water soaked rag. Bryan

10-24-2004, 10:42 AM	#10
purple gas Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: saskatoon, planet earth Posts: 686	That looks differnt from my box. I got mine from a 68 chevy, and it bolted right in. Only had to trim the rad support bracket , I think. I still haven't done the bumper bracket.

10-24-2004, 10:48 AM	#11
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	Purple, you may have purchased the hard to find (and problem prone) Ram assist power steering. You have any pics of it? Bryan....I'm thinking that is not a good way to cool the frame. I may be mistaken, (and ppl eplease jump in if I am) bit quenching it like that makes the metal brittle.

10-24-2004, 11:26 AM	#13
purple gas Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: saskatoon, planet earth Posts: 686	no visible rams on my box, just looks like a normal power steering box. I doubt if it was original to the truck I got it from, it was shimmed out with about 3-4 washers on every bolt. but it seemed to bolt right on to my truck wich was original manual steering,after I notched the frame by the rad support bracket ?got no pix.( cause I can't figure out my camera's software), and my trucks in the muffler shop till monday anyways .. It was built in Canada, could that mean it was already dimpled? Crap. now the suspense is killing me. Maybe I won't get to finally drive the damn thing tomorrow? Hope I'm not hijacking this thread?

10-24-2004, 07:17 PM	#14
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	OK, the spacers you mention, that explains it. I would remove the spacers ASAP personally. It can lead to premature wear on the gear box, and if the bolts get stresed, the added leverage can break them, and if one goes, the others would be soon to follow.

10-24-2004, 08:18 PM	#15
bluec10 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Manitoba, Canada Posts: 663	I bolted a ps box from an '84 onto my 68 frame with no "dimple" needed. In fact, all I had to do was drill one hole. I never drove the truck so I don't know if it was installed the right way. I'd like to do the same thing with my '69 - am I installing the thing the wrong way? __________________ Present: 2015 Tacoma. Yeah, not a GM, but I love it. 1969 GMC 32,000 - fix, drive, relax, fix... 2019 BMW R1250 GSA - Yahoooooooo 1979 Honda GL 1000 - retro touring at its best. Past: '05 Sierra 4x4 - Had 270,000 KM and running well when it was written-off by a stop sign runner. '94 F-150 from the "F word" company. I'll admit it...good truck. Sold what was left of it for $800 to a guy who came to pick it up at 11:00 PM with cash in hand. Hmm. '79 Sierra Grande (Black) organ donor - perfect rebuildable 4-bolt 350 and a good TH350. '76 Sierra Grande (Orange) - hate isn't too strong a word. Kid who bought it turned it into a hot rod. '68 C-10 R.I.P. - Dad's old truck...too far gone to resurrect. '59 C-50 - with hoist. Truck is gone, wife isn't. Nuff said.

10-24-2004, 09:11 PM	#16
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	SOme 68's were made with the dimple from what I understand. I have never seen one, but my hands on with 67/68 is very limited. Don't worry about your 69...it's set up for the later model gear box.

10-25-2004, 12:31 AM	#17
68w/sbc406 Got Light Emitting Diode? Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Newberg, OR Posts: 2,485	my 68 has a factory dimple __________________ 1968 1/2 ton 2wd lwb 6 lug disc and bags up front. Next c notch and rear bags '02 Chevy Silverado LT ext cab short bed 2WD 5/7 drop on 22's(the family car) 1993 Cherokee work ride/weekend wheeler



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12-09-2004, 12:03 PM	#18
cheyenne10 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Oregon Posts: 2,512	rumors I talked to a guy with a 68 frame and no dimple. He had a PS box bolted up to it without spacers or dimple. It looked like it snugged up tight and was close fit. Does anyone know what steering box combo this could have been? Aren't there a new style PS box that works on our trucks but uses different PS hose fittings? Which years of PS boxes are these and how might the boxes be different? (ratios, mouting holes, hoses needed, etc.) Truck is not on road yet just need to get it right in mock up stages. __________________ Bob

12-09-2004, 08:25 PM	#19
MOTHERTRUCKERS Registered User Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: BRADENTON FLA Posts: 3,269	I have a 67 setup if you need it, worked when pulled a few years ago and stored inside 75.00 + shipping. __________________ Rest in Peace Ed. Thanks for all the good times.

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