Testing new stuff

[Longhorn Man]

A few months ago I was asking every one here if they had ever tried the proque plus intake gaskets...the ones with the little screens in the intake ports.
Well, i've had them laying around for a while, and since I blew my end seal out on the way back from Michigan, i guess now is a good time huh?

[Longhorn Man]

You can see the screens in the above blurry pic, (it was supposed to go on this reply, but who cares)
Place your bets...will it make power, will it make noise, or will it just make puddles?
Here is what Jeggs has to say about them. (The sales man wants me to come back and let him know the real observations)

Torque Plus has found a way to take racetrack technology and apply it to the everyday high performance street vehicle with their intake manifold gaskets. The result is more low end torque, fuel economy and throttle response. The theory behind their screened intake gaskets is easy: The Torque Plus System reduces atomization fallout of the fuel by fittinga small mesh screen into their gasket, which runs directly across the entire mouth of the intake port (the closest accessible point before fuel mixture enters the combustion chamber). As fuel flows into the cylinder head, it will re-atomize, forming finer droplets. These finer fuel droplets allow the fuel to burn faster, creating more horsepower from the same amount of fuel!! This results in improved throttle response and an increase of between 10-15% on fuel economy. Torque Plus is a worthy addition to any engine.

[68SWB4x4]

alright, go for it guennia pig, and report back

[Zkast]

Could be like most gimmicks, If you think its going to run better... It will

Good luck with it, cant hurt I guess. Unless that screen comes out

[mooneyes]

back in the day i used to see guys putting screens under the carb to break fuel up better, i remember as a kid dad doing it to a 250 6 cylinder and it helped so i would guess that those gasketes should make a difference..let us know..

[Protrucks]

If you all ran propane you wouldn't have to worry about it, it already is a vapor. Put a turbo on and bye bye. Sorry I couldn't resist LOL

[Super Chevy]

I'm woundering the results also...

I hope its not like that infomercial "TORNADO " ,you notice in that comercial were they do the dyno runs that a k&n appears in place of the stocker in the second run? hehe

[Longhorn Man]

Pro trucks...I have been giving that propain thing a good think over...what would it cost to convert, and how does the MOG (or what ever you would call it now) compair to gasoline? I know about the oil and plugs lasting forever, but is it cost efective?
Super Chevy, I have a hard time thinking that Jegs woul;d sell something like that, all there stuff is track tested, and while I'm sure some of there items do not make a huge differance, I doubt they would carry them if they were a marketing ploy...like the magnets that go ovver the fuel line ans 'seperate the molicules of fuel for a better mor powerfull burn'. (JC Whitney)
I'm waiing for the Smurf-Goo to set up right now, all I need to do is fill up the rad, and make a mad dash to the gas station...I still haven't gassed up from after the trip. (I have about 1/2 gallon to a gallon left)

[Denny]

Looks interesting. Hope it works. What is the screen material made of?

[Protrucks]

I never did show you the filling station I put in. If you have Propane delivered in bulk and fill your own tank (I have a 1000 gal tank with a commercial style pump) I can get the fuel for under $1.00 a gal. I just filled it last week for .89. There is no cost in the long run to convert. You can deduct up $2000 per vehicle off your taxes. Only 1 vehicle per year is allowed. You will lose about 1 - 1 1/2 mpg 10% or less. If you set the truck up for duel fuel and try to make it run OK on both fuels you will get the worst mpg and lose the most power. My duel fuel setup I have the truck running great on LPG and like crap on gasoline. This way if need be I can always get home with the gas in the tank. I will leave 5 or so gals in the gas tank and then run it out every third tank of LPG to keep it from going stale. The biggest plus for LPG is the longevity of the motor and oil. I run synthetic oil and change it every 15000 or more miles and it comes out clear and gold color. It usually is not out of the ordinary for a motor to go 250,000 miles or more on LPG. This is with a spark plug change every 100,000 or more mile.

The down side to LPG is the cost of the fuel on the road. A place like Flynn J truck stops have LPG but there cost is so up and down across the US that it's always a surprise what the cost is going to be next. When I went out to WA to get the Burb from Wes I paid anywhere from .99 to 1.39 per gal at the pump and saw it as high as 1.59 but I drew the line there. It is criminal to charge that much and pay the same as the guy selling it for .99 There is no regulation on LPG in the US like there is a on Gasoline. To me it is worth the change. If I lived in a situation where I could not have my own tank to fill my own truck it would not be, unless I made a deal with some local dealer to help with the cost. Most will but there are the ones out there that don't want to mess with it. Or the one that will is to far out of the way to make it worth my while to go to them.
Oh yea it is a clean fuel it your into the environment!

[Protrucks]

Oh yea the Do*ge that I drove to WA will run great on Propane or gas. Newer trucks that are ran by computer do great on duel fuel systems. It has a separet comp system for the propane and runs as well as on gasoline

[Longhorn Man]

Very interesting. Somethign to think about.
How about converting an old crappy engine...something I would own? Is it still cosher, or is it worse?

[Protrucks]

Well it depends on the motor. If it is pre what? 1975 and has not got hardened valve seats then the motor probably will not be a good one to convert. Propane is hard on soft valves. If it has hardened seats then propane will clean the motor out for you and probably extend its life. Even motors with hardened valves will have the valves go out sooner than they would having been running on gasoline. But the rest of the motor will keep going and going. When its time to do the valves have the seats hardened and use stainless steel valves. The 69 orange flat bed I have had a ton of miles on that motor when I converted it over and it had black thick oil in it when I got the truck that the motor came out of. After about 3000 miles and two oil changes the oil now stays clean between oil changes. The dip stick at first had that burn dark look on it and now it shines and looks new. I don't know the miles on the motor? but its a lot I'm sure.