The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network







Register or Log In To remove these advertisements.

Go Back   The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network > General Truck Forums > Suspension

Web 67-72chevytrucks.com


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 04-19-2005, 06:14 PM   #1
72BLAZERDUDE
Registered User
 
72BLAZERDUDE's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: WATAUGA,TX
Posts: 660
Alignment questions

I am doing bags and drop spindles on the front of my 72 2wd Blazer and was wondering if I need to get longer upper a-arm mounting studs or am I going to be able to move the arm out far enough to get it aligned at ride height. Also is changing these studs a pretty easy job to do. And where would I get them from if I need to change them.
__________________
72 2wd 307/AT/AC/TILT WHEEL
78 JIMMY HIGH SIERRA

Last edited by 72BLAZERDUDE; 04-19-2005 at 06:15 PM.
72BLAZERDUDE is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-22-2005, 03:03 PM   #2
laid67c10
Registered User
 
laid67c10's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: longview, TX
Posts: 280
dunno for sure but i think you'd be fine, it shouldnt be too far off with a drop spindle....and aired up to ride height....
__________________
49 Chevy - currently under construction being bagged and hunting for a LS drivetrain!!!
09 - Harley nighttrain on air ride!
laid67c10 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-22-2005, 04:08 PM   #3
Frank_Zeller
Registered User
 
Frank_Zeller's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Austin, Texas
Posts: 796
You need to move the upper a-arms "closer" to the frame when you lower. So no need to get longer bolts.

A little more the 2 inches spring drop is all you can go before you get into front end alignment problems. This is with the stock A arm set up.
__________________
69 SWB C/10 5-6 drop 700R4
69 Firebird Convert 455 4 spd
70 Torino GT Convert

Austin-Texas
Frank_Zeller is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-22-2005, 07:08 PM   #4
72BLAZERDUDE
Registered User
 
72BLAZERDUDE's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: WATAUGA,TX
Posts: 660
I am not sure I understand. Wouldn't " closer " to the frame be opposite of what I want to do. I understand longer bolts which means more shims which means farther from the frame. Having not looked real close at a crossmember out of a truck is it not possible to space out the mounting plate. I know it is riveted to the top of the crossmember but can it be moved.
__________________
72 2wd 307/AT/AC/TILT WHEEL
78 JIMMY HIGH SIERRA
72BLAZERDUDE is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-22-2005, 08:48 PM   #5
Slammed67
Progress = 0%
 
Slammed67's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Kansas City, MO
Posts: 2,108
Yes, the upper a-arms need to move outward when a truck is lowered to get the camber right.
__________________
Jason - '67 GMC swb | '57 Bel-Air 4dr hardtop | '56 210 4dr Wagon | 2000 GMC Sierra
Slammed67 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-22-2005, 09:17 PM   #6
SCOTI
Registered User
 
SCOTI's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: DALLAS,TX
Posts: 21,946
Quote:
Originally Posted by Frank_Zeller
You need to move the upper a-arms "closer" to the frame when you lower. So no need to get longer bolts.

A little more the 2 inches spring drop is all you can go before you get into front end alignment problems. This is with the stock A arm set up.
This is correct for certain applications. However, for GM trucks 64-87, the a-arms usually require spacing outward to regain proper alignment specs after the suspension is lowered.

72Blazerdude, you should be fine w/the stock studs when using drop spindles + bags up front. Your estimated front drop will prob be around 5-6" @ ride height which is common even w/static drops. My 68 & 74 both utilize the stock length studs & both are static dropped 5-6" in the front.
__________________
67SWB-B.B.RetroRod
64SWB-Recycle
89CCDually-Driver/Tow Truck
99CCSWB Driver
All Fleetsides
@rattlecankustoms in IG

Building a small, high rpm engine with the perfect bore, stroke and rod ratio is very impressive.
It's like a highly skilled Morrocan sword fighter with a Damascus Steel Scimitar.....

Cubic inches is like Indiana Jones with a cheap pistol.

Last edited by SCOTI; 04-23-2005 at 12:18 AM.
SCOTI is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-22-2005, 10:21 PM   #7
Frank_Zeller
Registered User
 
Frank_Zeller's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Austin, Texas
Posts: 796
This has been my experience with my 69 SWB with 71-72 upper and lower A-arms. 2.5 inch drop spindles plus 2 inch drop springs with all ball joints and bushing replaced.

to get:

-0.25 chamber and 2 degrees caster

There is no shims in the front part of each a-arm front bolt

Two 0.125 shims on passenger side back bolt

Three 0.125 shims on the driver side back bolt

using the gauge like the one in this auction


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...ayphotohosting
__________________
69 SWB C/10 5-6 drop 700R4
69 Firebird Convert 455 4 spd
70 Torino GT Convert

Austin-Texas
Frank_Zeller is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-23-2005, 12:19 AM   #8
SCOTI
Registered User
 
SCOTI's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: DALLAS,TX
Posts: 21,946
I left out a key word so I edited my original post.
__________________
67SWB-B.B.RetroRod
64SWB-Recycle
89CCDually-Driver/Tow Truck
99CCSWB Driver
All Fleetsides
@rattlecankustoms in IG

Building a small, high rpm engine with the perfect bore, stroke and rod ratio is very impressive.
It's like a highly skilled Morrocan sword fighter with a Damascus Steel Scimitar.....

Cubic inches is like Indiana Jones with a cheap pistol.
SCOTI is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-23-2005, 06:30 AM   #9
Frank_Zeller
Registered User
 
Frank_Zeller's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Austin, Texas
Posts: 796
I'm going to recheck my chamber and caster today. I bet the difference is in the spindles top ball joint hole location.
__________________
69 SWB C/10 5-6 drop 700R4
69 Firebird Convert 455 4 spd
70 Torino GT Convert

Austin-Texas
Frank_Zeller is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-23-2005, 11:35 AM   #10
Slammed67
Progress = 0%
 
Slammed67's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Kansas City, MO
Posts: 2,108
Quote:
This is correct for certain applications.
True. My '56 Chevy wagon required moving the upper a-arm inward after I cut the coils. However, on those cars the studs face inwards so as you add shims, it pulls the a-arm inward.
__________________
Jason - '67 GMC swb | '57 Bel-Air 4dr hardtop | '56 210 4dr Wagon | 2000 GMC Sierra
Slammed67 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-23-2005, 11:57 AM   #11
SCOTI
Registered User
 
SCOTI's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: DALLAS,TX
Posts: 21,946
After reading Frank Z's post I remembered a 66 truck I dropped for my old neighbor (using Turners stepped arms & 1 coil cut from stock springs). It required removal of front shims vs. the typical adding of shims.

I know the avg./typical truck drop will require spacing the arms out, but I guess some are different. Cars do require moving the arms inward because of the mounting orientation of the a-arms.
__________________
67SWB-B.B.RetroRod
64SWB-Recycle
89CCDually-Driver/Tow Truck
99CCSWB Driver
All Fleetsides
@rattlecankustoms in IG

Building a small, high rpm engine with the perfect bore, stroke and rod ratio is very impressive.
It's like a highly skilled Morrocan sword fighter with a Damascus Steel Scimitar.....

Cubic inches is like Indiana Jones with a cheap pistol.
SCOTI is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:04 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Copyright 1997-2022 67-72chevytrucks.com