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slammed64 · 06-16-2005, 04:55 PM

i've got a fresh from the farm 64 lwb fleet that i've just started on in the last couple of months, and i'm converting it to 5lug. i got my parts from a 78 1/2 ton. the front end went fine,except for tie rod ends. that part got resolved though. the rear end which i thought would be easy, has turned out bad as usual. i pulled the stock axels out and they were different splines. i don't know anything really about diffs but i do know one thing, the spline on these axels are so thick, it must be one tuff rear. i asked a bunch of different people, and know one has heard of this. anyone have any comments they could make about my problem, and any much needed help.

FuelCellGuy · 06-16-2005, 10:06 PM

I did the same thing the day before yesterday. Someone gave me a 65 rear, I had, what I was told was 72 model 5 lug axles, and tried the same swap myself. You will more than likely have to find a 67-72 Chevy rear to use your 5 lug axles in. I have my 6 lug housing but am having a hard time finding the axles. Later, Mark

slammed64 · 06-17-2005, 01:17 AM

somebody told me that i have to get only the 71 or 72 because they are the only ones with 5 lug, and the only one's that are the same length across, and also because they go with the coil springs. this is if i change the whole rear end i mean. for the axels themselves, i think the only thing i could do is get the original 6 lug axels redrilled at a machine shop. were your axels the really thick splined axels too fuelcellguy?????

64fleetside · 06-17-2005, 07:39 AM

63 & 64 had the coarse splines, 71-72 are wider by 3/4 inch each side. Redrilling your axles is prob easiest. Brian

FuelCellGuy · 06-17-2005, 07:46 AM

Yea, what he said. I guess the rear I had was from a 63/64, it had the 17 spline axles. Later, Mark

slammed64 · 06-17-2005, 11:03 AM

thanks guys for the input. this was my first conversation on this site, i just joined the other day. its nice to see so many people in the same place that share my DISEASE. the last thing i want to know is if that 17 spline axel was a special option from the factory, and if it is a good rearend too have.

Slammed66 · 06-19-2005, 06:12 PM

There is nothing special about your coarse spline axles, they were avalible in 63 and 64, in 65 the went to fine spline, you can either get 71-71 axles and build spacers between you axle tubes and backing plates, or you can have you axles redrilled , but youll also have to have the centre hub turned down so you can slide 71-72 drums on.

Where in alberta are you?

I also am building a Slammed 64, used to be a 66 hence the name.

slammed64 · 06-19-2005, 10:19 PM

slammed 66, will a 71 or 72 rearend bolt right up on my truck. i was told it would, because it is the same type of suspension, coils!!!! its good to see another person from alberta on here. i'm from brooks, the **** hole of alberta, or at least the **** smell of alberta. i shouldn't complain, this place has been good to me. i work on the rigs for presicion well servicing. what do you do in reddeer. i was thinking of moving there. my old lady's brother lives there, maybe you know him, chad macdonald, he works at reddeer motors. he is in a couple of car clubs in reddeer. he's got a 71 burb, 67 biscayne (beautiful car). i've just got my 64, but just purchased a sweet 64 shorty step for a real good price. pics at a later date

. sorry to rammble on so much, maybe if you want, e-mail me we'll chat some more. 5277@telus.net

Slammed66 · 06-20-2005, 01:15 AM

small world eh.

yeah 71-72 rear end will bolt right in

red deer is cool,

Look familiar?????

zenish · 06-20-2005, 10:03 PM

www.earlyclassic.com sells five lug conversion axles for your truck.

64fleetside · 06-20-2005, 11:00 PM

Yeah, you can't spacer the 63-4 rear due to pressed on backing plates, no bolts. Brian

slammed64 · 06-20-2005, 11:06 PM

it is a small world, i thought it was you, but i didn't think you had all those vehicles. especially the camaro. if i knew you had that i woulda bugged chad to get me over to see it. well, you answered my question twice for me now. maybe i'll ask you again sometime lol chads bro rod is getting me a 71or72 rearend for $150 canadian. for all you american readers out there that is about $13.00 american lol kidding about $120.00 tell me, did you make it to the 3hills car show, if so, how did you do. this will make a good story for chad eh!!! gotta run gord

Demmit_Hemmit's 65 · 06-21-2005, 04:58 AM

slammed64.................I WENT TO THE LOCAL JUNKYARD AND FOUND A 71 GMC PICK-UP THAT WAS 5 LUG AND JUST SWAPPED HIM MY 6 LUG FOR THE 5 LUG.......................AND SOME CASH OF COARSE............IT WAS A BOLT IN ON MY 65 SUBURBAN AND AN EASY SWAP..................HEMMIT

slammed64 · 06-21-2005, 06:03 PM

demmit hemmit's 65 thanks for the reply, i think that is what i'm going to do, my brother in law know a guy with a couple of 72 chev rears, and is going to pick one up for me.

Slammed66 · 06-21-2005, 08:12 PM

No three hills Im am still gettting the truck together ( slacker+ setbacks)

went to the museum in wetaskawin instead the weather looked crappy so Id rather be indoor , Im goin out tonight to set my valves and tune it up , and I should be disco

get those pics I wanna see your rides dammit.

oh and the camaro is hidden in a barn in saskatchewan.

slammed64 · 06-21-2005, 09:48 PM

slammed 66....that camaro reminds me, i got a set of intro ultra wheels that i got in the states that i'd like to sell. they were the wrong bolt pattern for my truck. they said 5 on 5 on the box, and turned out they were 5 on 4 3/4. which i thing is chevy car, which you happed to have......in sask. let me know if your interested. $1800.00 never used, still in boxes. gotta know now, or i'm sending them back.

Slammed66 · 06-22-2005, 02:59 AM

Id love to but.......... im poor and Im not goin to buy wheels until im building it, if you've got a connection with intro wheels Id love to hear a story, I want a set of vista'a with the satin spokes real bad. first I need money.....

Slammed66 · 06-22-2005, 08:44 PM

Sha bamm

thats all I reall have of her right now , I have to go down august long and move her to a more secure home, Ill take some better pics then

slammed64 · 06-22-2005, 11:30 PM

sweet car, i'd love to have that. i know there are going to be people mad at me for this, but that would be my first choice for something to rebuild. i love camaro's, i have an 86 iroc Z28. but chevy is chevy what ever way you look at it. those things are expensive to rebuild anyway. you have to find a very nice one, which it looks like you have. where did you find it, if you don't mind me asking.... gotta run, anyone else interested in the wheels.... they have to go back within the next couple of days for sure, so if someone is interested, let me know. gord

Slammed66 · 06-28-2005, 12:49 AM

I got the car as a grad gift from my mom, it was my dads car wich he was planning to restore, he never got the chance as he passed away when I was 12, so Im saving this car until I can do it right.

what do the wheels look like?

slammed64 · 07-01-2005, 02:13 AM

the pics of the wheels and the truck are too big and won't upload. i gotta figure out how to make em smaller. when i do, they'll be here.

06-16-2005, 04:55 PM	#1
slammed64 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Brooks,Alberta, Canada, Eh!! Posts: 96	64 6lug 12bolt rearend help!!! i've got a fresh from the farm 64 lwb fleet that i've just started on in the last couple of months, and i'm converting it to 5lug. i got my parts from a 78 1/2 ton. the front end went fine,except for tie rod ends. that part got resolved though. the rear end which i thought would be easy, has turned out bad as usual. i pulled the stock axels out and they were different splines. i don't know anything really about diffs but i do know one thing, the spline on these axels are so thick, it must be one tuff rear. i asked a bunch of different people, and know one has heard of this. anyone have any comments they could make about my problem, and any much needed help.

06-17-2005, 11:03 AM	#6
slammed64 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Brooks,Alberta, Canada, Eh!! Posts: 96	thanks thanks guys for the input. this was my first conversation on this site, i just joined the other day. its nice to see so many people in the same place that share my DISEASE. the last thing i want to know is if that 17 spline axel was a special option from the factory, and if it is a good rearend too have.

06-19-2005, 06:12 PM	#7
Slammed66 Needs a Big Block Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Red Deer , Alberta Posts: 1,198	There is nothing special about your coarse spline axles, they were avalible in 63 and 64, in 65 the went to fine spline, you can either get 71-71 axles and build spacers between you axle tubes and backing plates, or you can have you axles redrilled , but youll also have to have the centre hub turned down so you can slide 71-72 drums on. Where in alberta are you? I also am building a Slammed 64, used to be a 66 hence the name. __________________ 1964 Short box On dropmembers and billets 1962 Suburban family cruiser 1972 K10

06-20-2005, 01:15 AM	#9
Slammed66 Needs a Big Block Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Red Deer , Alberta Posts: 1,198	small world eh. yeah 71-72 rear end will bolt right in red deer is cool, Look familiar????? __________________ 1964 Short box On dropmembers and billets 1962 Suburban family cruiser 1972 K10

06-20-2005, 10:03 PM	#10
zenish Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: stallings,nc Posts: 401	www.earlyclassic.com sells five lug conversion axles for your truck. __________________ 1964 c10 short step 1962 econoline van 1989 rs camaro 2006 yamaha vino 125 1975 goldwing

06-16-2005, 10:06 PM	#2
FuelCellGuy FUEL CELL GURU Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Mineola, Texas Posts: 993	I did the same thing the day before yesterday. Someone gave me a 65 rear, I had, what I was told was 72 model 5 lug axles, and tried the same swap myself. You will more than likely have to find a 67-72 Chevy rear to use your 5 lug axles in. I have my 6 lug housing but am having a hard time finding the axles. Later, Mark

06-17-2005, 01:17 AM	#3
slammed64 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Brooks,Alberta, Canada, Eh!! Posts: 96	somebody told me that i have to get only the 71 or 72 because they are the only ones with 5 lug, and the only one's that are the same length across, and also because they go with the coil springs. this is if i change the whole rear end i mean. for the axels themselves, i think the only thing i could do is get the original 6 lug axels redrilled at a machine shop. were your axels the really thick splined axels too fuelcellguy?????

06-17-2005, 07:39 AM	#4
64fleetside Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: arkieland Posts: 1,070	63 & 64 had the coarse splines, 71-72 are wider by 3/4 inch each side. Redrilling your axles is prob easiest. Brian

06-17-2005, 07:46 AM	#5
FuelCellGuy FUEL CELL GURU Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Mineola, Texas Posts: 993	Yea, what he said. I guess the rear I had was from a 63/64, it had the 17 spline axles. Later, Mark

06-19-2005, 10:19 PM	#8
slammed64 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Brooks,Alberta, Canada, Eh!! Posts: 96	slammed 66, will a 71 or 72 rearend bolt right up on my truck. i was told it would, because it is the same type of suspension, coils!!!! its good to see another person from alberta on here. i'm from brooks, the ** hole of alberta, or at least the ** smell of alberta. i shouldn't complain, this place has been good to me. i work on the rigs for presicion well servicing. what do you do in reddeer. i was thinking of moving there. my old lady's brother lives there, maybe you know him, chad macdonald, he works at reddeer motors. he is in a couple of car clubs in reddeer. he's got a 71 burb, 67 biscayne (beautiful car). i've just got my 64, but just purchased a sweet 64 shorty step for a real good price. pics at a later date . sorry to rammble on so much, maybe if you want, e-mail me we'll chat some more. 5277@telus.net

06-20-2005, 11:00 PM	#11
64fleetside Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: arkieland Posts: 1,070	Yeah, you can't spacer the 63-4 rear due to pressed on backing plates, no bolts. Brian

06-20-2005, 11:06 PM	#12
slammed64 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Brooks,Alberta, Canada, Eh!! Posts: 96	it is a small world, i thought it was you, but i didn't think you had all those vehicles. especially the camaro. if i knew you had that i woulda bugged chad to get me over to see it. well, you answered my question twice for me now. maybe i'll ask you again sometime lol chads bro rod is getting me a 71or72 rearend for $150 canadian. for all you american readers out there that is about $13.00 american lol kidding about $120.00 tell me, did you make it to the 3hills car show, if so, how did you do. this will make a good story for chad eh!!! gotta run gord

06-21-2005, 04:58 AM	#13
Demmit_Hemmit's 65 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Peru, Indiana Posts: 741	slammed64.................I WENT TO THE LOCAL JUNKYARD AND FOUND A 71 GMC PICK-UP THAT WAS 5 LUG AND JUST SWAPPED HIM MY 6 LUG FOR THE 5 LUG.......................AND SOME CASH OF COARSE............IT WAS A BOLT IN ON MY 65 SUBURBAN AND AN EASY SWAP..................HEMMIT Last edited by Demmit_Hemmit's 65; 06-21-2005 at 05:01 AM.

06-21-2005, 06:03 PM	#14
slammed64 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Brooks,Alberta, Canada, Eh!! Posts: 96	demmit hemmit's 65 thanks for the reply, i think that is what i'm going to do, my brother in law know a guy with a couple of 72 chev rears, and is going to pick one up for me.

06-21-2005, 08:12 PM	#15
Slammed66 Needs a Big Block Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Red Deer , Alberta Posts: 1,198	No three hills Im am still gettting the truck together ( slacker+ setbacks) went to the museum in wetaskawin instead the weather looked crappy so Id rather be indoor , Im goin out tonight to set my valves and tune it up , and I should be disco get those pics I wanna see your rides dammit. oh and the camaro is hidden in a barn in saskatchewan. __________________ 1964 Short box On dropmembers and billets 1962 Suburban family cruiser 1972 K10



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06-21-2005, 09:48 PM	#16
slammed64 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Brooks,Alberta, Canada, Eh!! Posts: 96	slammed 66....that camaro reminds me, i got a set of intro ultra wheels that i got in the states that i'd like to sell. they were the wrong bolt pattern for my truck. they said 5 on 5 on the box, and turned out they were 5 on 4 3/4. which i thing is chevy car, which you happed to have......in sask. let me know if your interested. $1800.00 never used, still in boxes. gotta know now, or i'm sending them back.

06-22-2005, 02:59 AM	#17
Slammed66 Needs a Big Block Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Red Deer , Alberta Posts: 1,198	Id love to but.......... im poor and Im not goin to buy wheels until im building it, if you've got a connection with intro wheels Id love to hear a story, I want a set of vista'a with the satin spokes real bad. first I need money..... __________________ 1964 Short box On dropmembers and billets 1962 Suburban family cruiser 1972 K10

06-22-2005, 08:44 PM	#18
Slammed66 Needs a Big Block Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Red Deer , Alberta Posts: 1,198	Sha bamm thats all I reall have of her right now , I have to go down august long and move her to a more secure home, Ill take some better pics then __________________ 1964 Short box On dropmembers and billets 1962 Suburban family cruiser 1972 K10

06-22-2005, 11:30 PM	#19
slammed64 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Brooks,Alberta, Canada, Eh!! Posts: 96	sweet car, i'd love to have that. i know there are going to be people mad at me for this, but that would be my first choice for something to rebuild. i love camaro's, i have an 86 iroc Z28. but chevy is chevy what ever way you look at it. those things are expensive to rebuild anyway. you have to find a very nice one, which it looks like you have. where did you find it, if you don't mind me asking.... gotta run, anyone else interested in the wheels.... they have to go back within the next couple of days for sure, so if someone is interested, let me know. gord

06-28-2005, 12:49 AM	#20
Slammed66 Needs a Big Block Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Red Deer , Alberta Posts: 1,198	I got the car as a grad gift from my mom, it was my dads car wich he was planning to restore, he never got the chance as he passed away when I was 12, so Im saving this car until I can do it right. what do the wheels look like? __________________ 1964 Short box On dropmembers and billets 1962 Suburban family cruiser 1972 K10

07-01-2005, 02:13 AM	#21
slammed64 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Brooks,Alberta, Canada, Eh!! Posts: 96	the pics of the wheels and the truck are too big and won't upload. i gotta figure out how to make em smaller. when i do, they'll be here.

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