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BowTieMan · 08-18-2005, 12:48 AM

Ok I have a 70 with a 350 and auto. When I bought it the owner told me that the starter on there was special. And if I bought a new one I would need to take the nose end and the gear off and jsut get the new motor. After about 2 weeks of owning it my starter wouldn't work. So I replaced the whole thing with one from autozone. I didn't shim it and it wokred ok at first but wined alittle. Three months later out of no were it starts grinding and screaming when I try to start it. And made that horibble sound when it hit the flywheel. And my friend said sparks came out of the bottom of the truck. So I put a shim in and it still wined alot. So I got a new one tuesday night and put it in. And I added three shims and it wokred great, was quiet and started right up. Took it to school today and it was perfect, drove around to work and walgreens. then I went to go out tonight and it did that same wining sounds. Is it possible that the starter is geared for the 153 tooth and I have a 168 tooth flywheel and it is jsut to hard for the starter to move it over at first? I am going to check tomorrow what flywheel I have. Also we checked the flywheel and it is fine. I am at a loss. First one was three months and this new one is one day. Please help me. Any Ideas?

68C15 · 08-18-2005, 06:49 AM

FYI, the 153 tooth wheel takes a starter with the bolts in-line. the 168 takes a staggered bolt pattern. has the block been severely line bored? there should be 1/8" clearance between the starter shaft & the outter edge of wheel teeth. I would suggest a new 168 wheel & a NEW starter.

krue · 08-18-2005, 09:44 AM

Sounds like you should have kept the old nosecone.

I had the same problems you did, I went thru 4 starters in a year. Bought a nosecone that put the starter closer to the flywheel and haven't had a problem in over a year.

08-18-2005, 12:48 AM	#1
BowTieMan Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Glendale Arizona Posts: 747	Need starter help bad Ok I have a 70 with a 350 and auto. When I bought it the owner told me that the starter on there was special. And if I bought a new one I would need to take the nose end and the gear off and jsut get the new motor. After about 2 weeks of owning it my starter wouldn't work. So I replaced the whole thing with one from autozone. I didn't shim it and it wokred ok at first but wined alittle. Three months later out of no were it starts grinding and screaming when I try to start it. And made that horibble sound when it hit the flywheel. And my friend said sparks came out of the bottom of the truck. So I put a shim in and it still wined alot. So I got a new one tuesday night and put it in. And I added three shims and it wokred great, was quiet and started right up. Took it to school today and it was perfect, drove around to work and walgreens. then I went to go out tonight and it did that same wining sounds. Is it possible that the starter is geared for the 153 tooth and I have a 168 tooth flywheel and it is jsut to hard for the starter to move it over at first? I am going to check tomorrow what flywheel I have. Also we checked the flywheel and it is fine. I am at a loss. First one was three months and this new one is one day. Please help me. Any Ideas? __________________ "A true hotrodder wouldn't be content untill he had created a car so violent, so hairy, so totally sick that the very act of dropping the hammer would result in instant death. Anything less results in the need to go faster." - Tony DeFeo

08-18-2005, 06:49 AM	#2
68C15 blood type; Retumbo Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: next to my reloading bench Posts: 10,269	FYI, the 153 tooth wheel takes a starter with the bolts in-line. the 168 takes a staggered bolt pattern. has the block been severely line bored? there should be 1/8" clearance between the starter shaft & the outter edge of wheel teeth. I would suggest a new 168 wheel & a NEW starter. __________________ Man rule #77...if you own a 67 stepside with a caddy 472 you will never be in danger of loosing you man card

08-18-2005, 09:44 AM	#3
krue Designated A-hole! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: South Mississippi Posts: 36,450	Sounds like you should have kept the old nosecone. I had the same problems you did, I went thru 4 starters in a year. Bought a nosecone that put the starter closer to the flywheel and haven't had a problem in over a year. __________________ "If it ain't broke, fix it 'til it is!" Being stupid ain't illegal. We're Still Debt Free Except for the House!!! www.daveramsey.com 70 GMC SWB Stepside project "Green Booger" soon to be 6.0l/4l80e 93 S-10 "Poppaw's Truck"



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