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jugernot · 09-14-2005, 06:38 PM

I just recently put the brakes back on my rebuilt 12 bolt rear end. Put it back the same way I took it off. I have rolled the frame in and out of the garage a couple of times. When I pused it backwards I could hear the brake adjuster clicking. Well now the frame will not roll at all. I realize the brake adjuster has pushed the brake out which is preventing the wheel/drum from turning. How can I fix this. There is not brake fluid in the lines and I removed the e-brake cables from the rear drums (waiting to buy new ones)

neonlarry · 09-14-2005, 07:21 PM

Just pop off the little cover and adjust the star wheel to loosen the brake shoes.

jugernot · 09-14-2005, 08:40 PM

I will try that, but what do I need to fix to stop it from doing the samething again?

Anyone.......... I am stumped and a little frustrated.

jugernot · 09-14-2005, 10:59 PM

ttt

blazerparts · 09-15-2005, 10:20 AM

did you get the star wheel / spreader assembly installed in the correct orientation?

**oldiron** · 09-15-2005, 11:24 AM

Back the adjuster star down until it bottoms out snuggly.
The adjuster will just slide over the star wheel.
Adjust the brakes back up when you are ready to go on the road.
The way it is adjusting the brakes now is proper.

cdowns · 09-15-2005, 11:37 AM

if the brake adjusters tightened up by pushing backwards something is not installed properly they're supposed to adjust with the application of the brakes while in reverse not just by the wheel going in reverse

68 short step · 09-15-2005, 12:55 PM

buy a set of car dollies.jack up the rear , slide dollies under tires , lower truck on dallies. problem solved...

tomatocity · 09-15-2005, 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cdowns

if the brake adjusters tightened up by pushing backwards something is not installed properly they're supposed to adjust with the application of the brakes while in reverse not just by the wheel going in reverse

Agree with cdowns. I wonder if the adjusters are directional and that you might have mistakenly installed them either backwards or on the opposite side. Logical thoughts not knowledgable thoughts. What do I know about brakes?: big shoe in front, white lithium grease, can be a PIA. Do you have any pics?

jugernot · 09-15-2005, 03:21 PM

I will get take some pics of the problem brake.

Tomatocity-which junk yard in Sac are good for parts? I am not looking for anything right now, just interested in which yards to go to.

jugernot · 09-15-2005, 05:31 PM

Up loaded some pics. Can anyone tell me I put it back together correctly. There are no emergency brake cables installed.

blazerparts · 09-15-2005, 05:43 PM

looks right, adjusting mechanism anyhow

jugernot · 09-15-2005, 06:12 PM

I had made some adjustment, put everything back on, them rolled the tire backwards and forwards. I did not hear the adjuster clicking. So I think I fixed it. We'll see the next time I try to roll it out of the garage.

Thanks everyone.

cdowns · 09-15-2005, 06:13 PM

the flat bar with the little spring is backwards//spring should b opposite side of adjuster arm / both ends of that arm go on brake shoes and the cutout is to clear the axel//

not pickin on you but an excellent example of why to only do 1brake at a time//or take pictures B-4 removing

fastwillie 696969 · 09-15-2005, 08:16 PM

i dont knowits hard to see but is the primary shoe on front and rear in the picture
they look like the same size shoes when the secondary shoe should be longer
maybe on the other side you got two secondary shoes on
hard to say by the picture

68 short step · 09-15-2005, 08:25 PM

looking at the pics. which way is the front of the vehicle?

fastwillie 696969 · 09-15-2005, 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 68 short step

looking at the pics. which way is the front of the vehicle?

dude e brake assy always goes to the rear so the front of the truck is pointing to the left in the picture

jugernot · 09-15-2005, 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 70blowngmc

i dont knowits hard to see but is the primary shoe on front and rear in the picture
they look like the same size shoes when the secondary shoe should be longer
maybe on the other side you got two secondary shoes on
hard to say by the picture

I will have to pull the other wheel off and check that. I made sure when I removed them, before rebuilt, that I kept them seperate. Thanks

68 short step · 09-15-2005, 09:50 PM

dude e brake assy always goes to the rear so the front of the truck is pointing to the left in the picture

yes i know. i was asking for that same reason. I know and YOU know, but it is possible that other people DONT know. dude

86SILVERADO · 09-15-2005, 10:37 PM

The shoes are on the proper sides in the pic. The primary shoe is to the rear as it should be.....if that is actually the rear of the truck.

jugernot · 09-15-2005, 11:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cdowns

the flat bar with the little spring is backwards//spring should b opposite side of adjuster arm / both ends of that arm go on brake shoes and the cutout is to clear the axel//

not pickin on you but an excellent example of why to only do 1brake at a time//or take pictures B-4 removing

Thanks for the input, are you refering to the spring and flat bar behind the axle hub and touches each brake shoe?

cdowns · 09-16-2005, 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jugernot

Thanks for the input, are you refering to the spring and flat bar behind the axle hub and touches each brake shoe?

yes you have to flip the bar and spring endfer end spring side toward the front

Z28Owner · 09-16-2005, 09:41 PM

I just went through this hell today, should have waited till a better parts store could get the parts in. But no, had to get it done today

Never again will I get the autozone junk. The wheel cylinder wouldnt even fit on drivers side, also it uses a metric for bleeder. Had to file and file on the part that the cyl fits in between. But I had one leaking and brakes where dragging bad. Stops good now though, hope all them parts hold up.

09-14-2005, 06:38 PM	#1
jugernot Life, Be In It..... Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Novato, California Posts: 1,498	I need rear brake help...HELP I just recently put the brakes back on my rebuilt 12 bolt rear end. Put it back the same way I took it off. I have rolled the frame in and out of the garage a couple of times. When I pused it backwards I could hear the brake adjuster clicking. Well now the frame will not roll at all. I realize the brake adjuster has pushed the brake out which is preventing the wheel/drum from turning. How can I fix this. There is not brake fluid in the lines and I removed the e-brake cables from the rear drums (waiting to buy new ones) __________________ Project Name: LEMON DROP. Reconstruction started "December 2000". Projected completion date "Who knows" http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=200082

09-14-2005, 07:21 PM	#2
neonlarry Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Vacaville, CA Posts: 2,745	Just pop off the little cover and adjust the star wheel to loosen the brake shoes. __________________ 70 C/10 Light Red 350/TH350, HEI, Duals w/40 series Flows, 91 seat, LED taillights 99 Pontiac S/C GTP, SLP Ram Air hood, GMPP Konis & springs 95 Neon ACR, MP PCM, AFX UDP, 3.0 CAI

09-14-2005, 08:40 PM	#3
jugernot Life, Be In It..... Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Novato, California Posts: 1,498	I will try that, but what do I need to fix to stop it from doing the samething again? Anyone.......... I am stumped and a little frustrated. __________________ Project Name: LEMON DROP. Reconstruction started "December 2000". Projected completion date "Who knows" http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=200082 Last edited by jugernot; 09-14-2005 at 10:59 PM.

09-14-2005, 10:59 PM	#4
jugernot Life, Be In It..... Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Novato, California Posts: 1,498	ttt __________________ Project Name: LEMON DROP. Reconstruction started "December 2000". Projected completion date "Who knows" http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=200082

09-15-2005, 10:20 AM	#5
blazerparts No,I DON'T have Tourett's Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 556	did you get the star wheel / spreader assembly installed in the correct orientation? __________________ '72 K5 CST 350/350 Daily Driver '69 GMC3500 Camper Special CST Flatbed 396/400 Upgraded to show truck '69 GMC 2500 L6292, 3spd beater

09-15-2005, 11:24 AM	#6
oldiron Designated Grumpy Old Man Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: arlington, washington usa Posts: 3,094	Back the adjuster star down until it bottoms out snuggly. The adjuster will just slide over the star wheel. Adjust the brakes back up when you are ready to go on the road. The way it is adjusting the brakes now is proper.

09-15-2005, 11:37 AM	#7
cdowns Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: daytonabeach Posts: 22,956	if the brake adjusters tightened up by pushing backwards something is not installed properly they're supposed to adjust with the application of the brakes while in reverse not just by the wheel going in reverse __________________ 71c-10 350/2004r/4:11 lowered3/4 longbed/dead by hurricane MEANING OF DEATH::::: SOMEBODY ELSE GETS YOUR STUFF DONT BELIEVE EVERYTHING YOU THINK TAKE MY ADVISE;I DON'T USE IT ANYWAY

09-15-2005, 12:55 PM	#8
68 short step Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: tulsa OK Posts: 3,070	buy a set of car dollies.jack up the rear , slide dollies under tires , lower truck on dallies. problem solved...

09-15-2005, 03:21 PM	#10
jugernot Life, Be In It..... Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Novato, California Posts: 1,498	I will get take some pics of the problem brake. Tomatocity-which junk yard in Sac are good for parts? I am not looking for anything right now, just interested in which yards to go to. Attached Images __________________ Project Name: LEMON DROP. Reconstruction started "December 2000". Projected completion date "Who knows" http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=200082 Last edited by jugernot; 09-15-2005 at 05:29 PM.

09-15-2005, 05:31 PM	#11
jugernot Life, Be In It..... Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Novato, California Posts: 1,498	Up loaded some pics. Can anyone tell me I put it back together correctly. There are no emergency brake cables installed. __________________ Project Name: LEMON DROP. Reconstruction started "December 2000". Projected completion date "Who knows" http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=200082

09-15-2005, 05:43 PM	#12
blazerparts No,I DON'T have Tourett's Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 556	looks right, adjusting mechanism anyhow __________________ '72 K5 CST 350/350 Daily Driver '69 GMC3500 Camper Special CST Flatbed 396/400 Upgraded to show truck '69 GMC 2500 L6292, 3spd beater

09-15-2005, 06:12 PM	#13
jugernot Life, Be In It..... Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Novato, California Posts: 1,498	I had made some adjustment, put everything back on, them rolled the tire backwards and forwards. I did not hear the adjuster clicking. So I think I fixed it. We'll see the next time I try to roll it out of the garage. Thanks everyone. __________________ Project Name: LEMON DROP. Reconstruction started "December 2000". Projected completion date "Who knows" http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=200082

09-15-2005, 06:13 PM	#14
cdowns Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: daytonabeach Posts: 22,956	the flat bar with the little spring is backwards//spring should b opposite side of adjuster arm / both ends of that arm go on brake shoes and the cutout is to clear the axel// not pickin on you but an excellent example of why to only do 1brake at a time//or take pictures B-4 removing __________________ 71c-10 350/2004r/4:11 lowered3/4 longbed/dead by hurricane MEANING OF DEATH::::: SOMEBODY ELSE GETS YOUR STUFF DONT BELIEVE EVERYTHING YOU THINK TAKE MY ADVISE;I DON'T USE IT ANYWAY Last edited by cdowns; 09-15-2005 at 06:46 PM.

09-15-2005, 08:16 PM	#15
fastwillie 696969 ~Rest In Peace~ Join Date: May 2005 Location: CALIFORNIA NOR CAL Posts: 9,707	i dont knowits hard to see but is the primary shoe on front and rear in the picture they look like the same size shoes when the secondary shoe should be longer maybe on the other side you got two secondary shoes on hard to say by the picture __________________ is it fast ? it has a lighting bolt donut? B___H please, I can remove 90% of your so called "beauty" with a kleenex

09-15-2005, 08:25 PM	#16
68 short step Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: tulsa OK Posts: 3,070	looking at the pics. which way is the front of the vehicle?



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09-15-2005, 09:50 PM	#19
68 short step Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: tulsa OK Posts: 3,070	dude e brake assy always goes to the rear so the front of the truck is pointing to the left in the picture yes i know. i was asking for that same reason. I know and YOU know, but it is possible that other people DONT know. dude

09-15-2005, 10:37 PM	#20
86SILVERADO Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Hills of Western Mass Posts: 626	The shoes are on the proper sides in the pic. The primary shoe is to the rear as it should be.....if that is actually the rear of the truck. __________________ 86 Silverado C10 back to 305 power! 67 C30 Dually Dump, with 350 transplant, Rockhauler 05 Duramax 3500 "If at first you don't succeed, try a bigger hammer" Member of the 1-Ton club!

09-16-2005, 09:41 PM	#23
Z28Owner ......................... Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: benton, ky Posts: 285	I just went through this hell today, should have waited till a better parts store could get the parts in. But no, had to get it done today Never again will I get the autozone junk. The wheel cylinder wouldnt even fit on drivers side, also it uses a metric for bleeder. Had to file and file on the part that the cyl fits in between. But I had one leaking and brakes where dragging bad. Stops good now though, hope all them parts hold up. __________________ 1971 LWB Chevy C-10 350/350 3:42 eaton

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