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Frank_Zeller · 10-17-2005, 10:33 AM

I switched to a 700R4 from TH350. Does any know what gear shift lens work with our non-tilt columns that has the P R N OD 3 2 1?

rodstored-72 · 10-17-2005, 10:48 AM

frank,
i have just finished doing the same thing. i too am looking for the 4 sp. indicator. i think i have found one in my rb's catalog. for $20. they are local here in the phx. area. it shows 1 2 3 d . not the od, but this will work for me. i think they have a web site that you can check out.

hope this helps.
rodstored-72

sdkid · 10-17-2005, 11:42 AM

truckandcarshop dot com has some. I don't know if they work with non-tilt though. You can only order a catalog online, no ordering. They may have a tech line though.

71swb4x4 · 10-17-2005, 01:46 PM

There is a board member that sells them. His name is onebad or badone or something like that. He is in Arizona or Nevada I think.

Frank_Zeller · 10-17-2005, 02:25 PM

I wonder if he was the guy selling them on Ebay a while back. Maybe he will respond to this tread?

chevyguy_72 · 10-17-2005, 04:15 PM

ricks truck parts was selling them on ebay a while back

Striker169 · 10-17-2005, 10:17 PM

How was the swap? Was it easy? What all did it take? Where did you get the transmition? How is it now? We need to have an AusTex meet so I can see all of the local board members rides and we can all swap ideas and see eachothers trucks.

Custom 68 · 10-18-2005, 08:56 AM

keep this one up top I need one too
Dave

71swb4x4 · 10-18-2005, 09:14 AM

I think gonebad2 is the one that had them, but not positive.

rodstored-72 · 10-18-2005, 10:34 AM

frank,
if you find what you like let us know where you get it, maybe some of us too will like it...

thanks!

nice truck in the avatar!!

MrC1 · 10-18-2005, 12:27 PM

I want one too!

Frank_Zeller · 10-18-2005, 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Striker169

How was the swap? Was it easy? What all did it take? Where did you get the transmition? How is it now? We need to have an AusTex meet so I can see all of the local board members rides and we can all swap ideas and see eachothers trucks.

It's a long saga of high and low points :0) Took about a month. This truck is my daily driver.

First

When I bought the truck way back when it had the V8 in 6 cylinder
position. This moves the engine about 3.5 inches back. With a short tail TH350 and a crossmember from god knows what that was bolted on under the frame.

So I gathered the correct V8 frame mounts and crossmember. Bought a used 1988 700R4 from a TPI car with 88K miles.

Then pulled the motor and tranny and installed the V8 frame mounts. Attached the 700R4 to the motor and installed with correct crossmember. Because I used the V8 frame mounts I did not have to cut the drive shaft so now the motor sits 3 inchs more forward. I only had to drill 2 holes in the frame for the crossmember to bolt up.

If you have a long shaft TH350 (9 inch) I dont think you have to cut the drive shaft. Just move the crossmember back.

The above went great.

Then

The 700R4 lost OD then shortly there after reverse.

Pulled the tranny for a rebuild. The tranny guy said the trans had a mix of parts. He rebuilt it. I installed it again. It did shift good but the tranny guy messed something up in the valve body.

So the tranny guy built a new 700R4 and converter and I gave him my old set up back.

Installed for the 3rd time.

So now it shifts great. Has HD parts in with the corvette servos and 1800-stall converter. Chirps the tires in second. I have the converter lock up/out controlled with a vacuum switch and with brake switch. I still have to install the speed controller that will only allow converter lock-up above 30 mph. The converter locks up in 2nd 3rd and 4th when the engine vacuum is high or if i'm not applying the brakes.

Results

70 mph 1800RPM

18.5 mpg at 70 with ac on. Getting 16.5 mpg on work loop. I was down at 12 mpg for awhile.

The low first gear is great too.

Striker169 · 10-18-2005, 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frank_Zeller

It's a long saga of high and low points :0) Took about a month. This truck is my daily driver.

First

When I bought the truck way back when it had the V8 in 6 cylinder
position. This moves the engine about 3.5 inches back. With a short tail TH350 and a crossmember from god knows what that was bolted on under the frame.

So I gathered the correct V8 frame mounts and crossmember. Bought a used 1988 700R4 from a TPI car with 88K miles.

Then pulled the motor and tranny and installed the V8 frame mounts. Attached the 700R4 to the motor and installed with correct crossmember. Because I used the V8 frame mounts I did not have to cut the drive shaft so now the motor sits 3 inchs more forward. I only had to drill 2 holes in the frame for the crossmember to bolt up.

If you have a long shaft TH350 (9 inch) I dont think you have to cut the drive shaft. Just move the crossmember back.

The above went great.

Then

The 700R4 lost OD then shortly there after reverse.

Pulled the tranny for a rebuild. The tranny guy said the trans had a mix of parts. He rebuilt it. I installed it again. It did shift good but the tranny guy messed something up in the valve body.

So the tranny guy built a new 700R4 and converter and I gave him my old set up back.

Installed for the 3rd time.

So now it shifts great. Has HD parts in with the corvette servos and 1800-stall converter. Chirps the tires in second. I have the converter lock up/out controlled with a vacuum switch and with brake switch. I still have to install the speed controller that will only allow converter lock-up above 30 mph. The converter locks up in 2nd 3rd and 4th when the engine vacuum is high or if i'm not applying the brakes.

Results

70 mph 1800RPM

18.5 mpg at 70 with ac on. Getting 16.5 mpg on work loop. I was down at 12 mpg for awhile.

The low first gear is great too.

DAM I get 9-10 in mine and at like 70mph im at like 3700rpm. I really need to do this to help on the gas.

smbrouss70 · 10-20-2005, 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frank_Zeller

70 mph 1800RPM

18.5 mpg at 70 with ac on. Getting 16.5 mpg on work loop. I was down at 12 mpg for awhile.

The low first gear is great too.

What rear gears are you running? and what size tires? With my 700r4 and 3.73's with 29 inch tall tires, I'm running 2100 RPM at 70 and only getting a best of 15-16 mpg.

Frank_Zeller · 10-20-2005, 02:40 PM

3.08's and 28 inch tire. 70 series tires.

Engine specs.

1995 GM 305 crate motor with Edelbrock SP2P intake, 1976 800CFM BOP Q-jet with 2 inch 4 hole spacer, 1 5/8 full length headers, recurved HEI with MSD6A. Has thermo fan clutch. 195 F thermostat. Set up for lowend torque and to run on 89 octane.

Truck is lowered.

MrC1 · 10-20-2005, 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frank_Zeller

195 F thermostat. Set up for lowend torque and to run on 89 octane.

Hey Frank, you might be able to run 87 octane if you swap down to a 180* stat. That little bit really makes a difference.

I was having trouble with 93 octane knocking on me in my "toy" car and I went from 180* to 160*. Problem solved! I know this is a little extreme on the temp, but the engine seems to like it and I don't notice any other ill effects. It's certainly not computer controlled, so no worries there.

Mike C · 10-20-2005, 10:04 PM

Frank, Check with Shiftworks or Classic Industries. I think both have the OD shift plates. I have one for my convertible that also converts the gates on the stirrup shifter. Nice to see you around! Ever once in awhile I see your truck on 183. One of the drawbacks of a late model truck is nobody notices you!

gonebad2 · 10-20-2005, 10:23 PM

I was the one selling them. I sell them on ebay and they bring a stupid amount of money for a piece of plastic. They are only available for tilt columns right now. I'm going to contact they guy that makes them and see if it's possible to have some made for non-tilt columns. When I talk to him, I'll get some for tilt columns. I sell them to board members for $10.00 plus shipping. If they guy can't make the ones for non-tilt columns, the company my wife works for can....Maybe I'll ask her to see what she can do.

chevy_fatman · 10-20-2005, 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gonebad2

I sell them to board members for $10.00 plus shipping.

gonebad2, Would you happen to have one of these that you could sell me? pretty please? let me know. Thanks.

Frank_Zeller sorry to hijack your thread.

Custom 68 · 10-21-2005, 08:51 AM

:tj:
PM also sent, I hope you have a bunch...
well I just need one

Dave

Frank_Zeller · 10-21-2005, 11:01 AM

Mike,
I seen your truck one Craig's list. I already checked with Shiftworks and their lens is to short. The local First Gen Firebird club has been meeting at the Home Depot on 1431 and pamer. Some really nice cars and trucks come out. Saturdays around 7:00PM

Gonebad2. Put me in line for on too.

gonebad2 · 10-21-2005, 11:32 PM

I plan on ordering some tomorrow.....When I get em, I'll post them on the parts board....Should have them in about a week.

GlennBrittain · 10-22-2005, 10:02 PM

Gonebad2 put me down for one also, right now I do not have a tilt installed. I have a tilt that needs to be rebuilt so I could use one of each.

10-17-2005, 10:33 AM	#1
Frank_Zeller Registered User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 796	700R4 column P R N OD 3 2 1 indicator I switched to a 700R4 from TH350. Does any know what gear shift lens work with our non-tilt columns that has the P R N OD 3 2 1? __________________ 69 SWB C/10 5-6 drop 700R4 69 Firebird Convert 455 4 spd 70 Torino GT Convert Austin-Texas

10-17-2005, 10:48 AM	#2
rodstored-72 chevy truck fan Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Gilbert, arizona 85298 Posts: 1,984	Re: 700R4 column P R N OD 3 2 1 indicator frank, i have just finished doing the same thing. i too am looking for the 4 sp. indicator. i think i have found one in my rb's catalog. for $20. they are local here in the phx. area. it shows 1 2 3 d . not the od, but this will work for me. i think they have a web site that you can check out. hope this helps. rodstored-72

10-17-2005, 11:42 AM	#3
sdkid Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Pierre SD Posts: 1,533	Re: 700R4 column P R N OD 3 2 1 indicator truckandcarshop dot com has some. I don't know if they work with non-tilt though. You can only order a catalog online, no ordering. They may have a tech line though. __________________ I think the world needs a drink... Help somebody...If you can....VanZant We're not wrong, we're not sorry, and its probably gonna happen again. That's the truth about men. Tracy Byrd Member# 13924 '70 c10, 350/350 '68 c10 250/4spd '68 c10 no eng/trans fac ps/pb/ac/at (future father/sons project) '48 Chevy Loadmaster Last edited by sdkid; 10-17-2005 at 11:42 AM.

10-17-2005, 01:46 PM	#4
71swb4x4 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Brookings, SD Posts: 10,497	Re: 700R4 column P R N OD 3 2 1 indicator There is a board member that sells them. His name is onebad or badone or something like that. He is in Arizona or Nevada I think. __________________ Some people are like slinkies, they aren't good for anything, but you can't help but smile when you see one tumble down the stairs.

10-17-2005, 02:25 PM	#5
Frank_Zeller Registered User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 796	Re: 700R4 column P R N OD 3 2 1 indicator I wonder if he was the guy selling them on Ebay a while back. Maybe he will respond to this tread? __________________ 69 SWB C/10 5-6 drop 700R4 69 Firebird Convert 455 4 spd 70 Torino GT Convert Austin-Texas

10-17-2005, 04:15 PM	#6
chevyguy_72 Vintage Evil Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Broomfield, CO Posts: 956	Re: 700R4 column P R N OD 3 2 1 indicator ricks truck parts was selling them on ebay a while back

10-17-2005, 10:17 PM	#7
Striker169 Car O'Holic Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Austin, Tx. Posts: 692	Re: 700R4 column P R N OD 3 2 1 indicator How was the swap? Was it easy? What all did it take? Where did you get the transmition? How is it now? We need to have an AusTex meet so I can see all of the local board members rides and we can all swap ideas and see eachothers trucks.

10-18-2005, 08:56 AM	#8
Custom 68 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Springfield, MO Posts: 2,928	Re: 700R4 column P R N OD 3 2 1 indicator keep this one up top I need one too Dave __________________ Dave 1968 Custom Chevy with turbo charged 5.3 gen III 4l80e swap 1967-71 GMC 3/4 ton long step 4x4 (not sure what year exactly?) "A good friend will bail you out of jail...but a true friend will be sitting next to you saying "that was frekin awesome". "If it doesn't fit force it...If it breaks then it needed to be replaced anyway!"

10-18-2005, 09:14 AM	#9
71swb4x4 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Brookings, SD Posts: 10,497	Re: 700R4 column P R N OD 3 2 1 indicator I think gonebad2 is the one that had them, but not positive. __________________ Some people are like slinkies, they aren't good for anything, but you can't help but smile when you see one tumble down the stairs.

10-18-2005, 10:34 AM	#10
rodstored-72 chevy truck fan Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Gilbert, arizona 85298 Posts: 1,984	Re: 700R4 column P R N OD 3 2 1 indicator frank, if you find what you like let us know where you get it, maybe some of us too will like it... thanks! nice truck in the avatar!!

10-18-2005, 12:27 PM	#11
MrC1 Dork For Days Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Dallas Posts: 407	Re: 700R4 column P R N OD 3 2 1 indicator I want one too!

10-20-2005, 02:40 PM	#15
Frank_Zeller Registered User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 796	Re: 700R4 column P R N OD 3 2 1 indicator 3.08's and 28 inch tire. 70 series tires. Engine specs. 1995 GM 305 crate motor with Edelbrock SP2P intake, 1976 800CFM BOP Q-jet with 2 inch 4 hole spacer, 1 5/8 full length headers, recurved HEI with MSD6A. Has thermo fan clutch. 195 F thermostat. Set up for lowend torque and to run on 89 octane. Truck is lowered. __________________ 69 SWB C/10 5-6 drop 700R4 69 Firebird Convert 455 4 spd 70 Torino GT Convert Austin-Texas Last edited by Frank_Zeller; 10-20-2005 at 03:14 PM.

10-20-2005, 10:04 PM	#17
Mike C Registered User Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Austin, TX, USA Posts: 7,715	Re: 700R4 column P R N OD 3 2 1 indicator Frank, Check with Shiftworks or Classic Industries. I think both have the OD shift plates. I have one for my convertible that also converts the gates on the stirrup shifter. Nice to see you around! Ever once in awhile I see your truck on 183. One of the drawbacks of a late model truck is nobody notices you! __________________ 44 Willys MB 52 M38A1 64 Corvette Coupe 68 Camaro 'vert LT1 & TH700 69 Z/28 355 12.6's @110 69 Chevy Short Step 4 1/2"/7" drop 72 Jimmy 4WD 4spd 4" & 35's 02 GMC 2500HD 4x4 Duramax

10-20-2005, 10:23 PM	#18
gonebad2 Merciless Butcher Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: CC Nevada Posts: 1,447	Re: 700R4 column P R N OD 3 2 1 indicator I was the one selling them. I sell them on ebay and they bring a stupid amount of money for a piece of plastic. They are only available for tilt columns right now. I'm going to contact they guy that makes them and see if it's possible to have some made for non-tilt columns. When I talk to him, I'll get some for tilt columns. I sell them to board members for $10.00 plus shipping. If they guy can't make the ones for non-tilt columns, the company my wife works for can....Maybe I'll ask her to see what she can do. __________________ Your Bought And Sold....I Got Your Soul! Last edited by gonebad2; 10-20-2005 at 10:24 PM.

10-21-2005, 08:51 AM	#20
Custom 68 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Springfield, MO Posts: 2,928	Re: 700R4 column P R N OD 3 2 1 indicator :tj: PM also sent, I hope you have a bunch... well I just need one Dave __________________ Dave 1968 Custom Chevy with turbo charged 5.3 gen III 4l80e swap 1967-71 GMC 3/4 ton long step 4x4 (not sure what year exactly?) "A good friend will bail you out of jail...but a true friend will be sitting next to you saying "that was frekin awesome". "If it doesn't fit force it...If it breaks then it needed to be replaced anyway!"



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10-21-2005, 11:01 AM	#21
Frank_Zeller Registered User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 796	Re: 700R4 column P R N OD 3 2 1 indicator Mike, I seen your truck one Craig's list. I already checked with Shiftworks and their lens is to short. The local First Gen Firebird club has been meeting at the Home Depot on 1431 and pamer. Some really nice cars and trucks come out. Saturdays around 7:00PM Gonebad2. Put me in line for on too. __________________ 69 SWB C/10 5-6 drop 700R4 69 Firebird Convert 455 4 spd 70 Torino GT Convert Austin-Texas

10-21-2005, 11:32 PM	#22
gonebad2 Merciless Butcher Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: CC Nevada Posts: 1,447	Re: 700R4 column P R N OD 3 2 1 indicator I plan on ordering some tomorrow.....When I get em, I'll post them on the parts board....Should have them in about a week. __________________ Your Bought And Sold....I Got Your Soul!

10-22-2005, 10:02 PM	#23
GlennBrittain Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Panola County Texas Posts: 401	Re: 700R4 column P R N OD 3 2 1 indicator Gonebad2 put me down for one also, right now I do not have a tilt installed. I have a tilt that needs to be rebuilt so I could use one of each.

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