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deadmeat521 · 09-01-2002, 07:08 PM

the first three letters in my vin are cce everywhere i have looked says it should be just ce can anyone tell me what the extra c stands for

**ThreeQuarter** · 09-01-2002, 07:33 PM

Is it a GMC? If it is then I'd just leave out the extra C and see how that decodes. The GMC vins were a little different, and not consistently different. I don't think anyone here has ever found a good source for decoding the extra numbers in GMC vins, but I'd be glad to find out if someone has!

**68 Stepside** · 09-01-2002, 07:45 PM

I believe all 72 VINs started with CCE. Don't ask me why, maybe Chevy just wanted to be different?

TJ

deadmeat521 · 09-01-2002, 07:53 PM

it is a chevy c10

bigvinnie · 09-01-2002, 07:59 PM

I believe the extra c was for vehicles sold in california, as they had special emissions and were denoted as such.

Longhorn Man · 09-01-2002, 08:18 PM

In 72, GM put an extra letter in the begining of the VIN. I can't remember what GMC had, but C was added to all Chevy VINs. Ignore it, and decode the rest acording to all charts you just refered to.

deadmeat521 · 09-01-2002, 08:18 PM

it still had the orginal intake on it when bought it and i did not see an egr valve or any other smog related parts on it

bigvinnie · 09-01-2002, 08:24 PM

I"ll take longhornmail's word for it, as I got my info from a newsgroup a while back and it could very well have been BS....

Rod · 09-01-2002, 11:19 PM

The C in the first part of the 67-71 vin never stood for Chevrolet it stood for Convetional Cab. CE***** meant conventional cab eight cylinder.

In 1972 GM added the C to stand for Chevrolet.
in 1972 GM added a T to stand for GMC.

so a 72 8cyl Chev pickup would start with CCE******
so a 72 8 cly GMC would start with TCE*******

GMC aint that hard to decode. You got one post it.

Longhorn Man · 09-02-2002, 12:27 AM

Mine is a 69...it doesn't have the added letter at the begining.
i don't have my VIN handy, but Ithink it is;
CM10DSA12797...I might be a little off on the numbers at the ehnd...but it is something close to that.
C = Conv. cab
M = V6 gas engine
10 = 1/2 ton
D = Fleet bed (wide side in '69 GMC manual)
S = assembly plant...not sure which one.
A = '96
12797 = 12797th built in the model year.

deadmeat521 · 09-02-2002, 01:16 AM

thx for the info

Blue_71 · 09-02-2002, 01:18 AM

Quote:

CM10DSA12797...I might be a little off on the numbers at the ehnd...but it is something close to that.
C = Conv. cab
M = V6 gas engine
10 = 1/2 ton
D = Fleet bed (wide side in '69 GMC manual)
S = assembly plant...not sure which one.
A = '96
12797 = 12797th built in the model year.

uh, `96?

Rod · 09-02-2002, 10:14 AM

Lets see.... without actully looking it up.

Hmm the
C = conventional cab
M =V6
1 = half ton
OD = meant fleetside
S =St louis
A =1969
12797 = 12797th built in the model year.

Some of those USA built GMC's have thing a little different than Canadian built GMC's.

CE20934 · 09-02-2002, 03:11 PM

I know on Chevys the sequential number starts at 100001, not 000001. Going by what's posted above, does GMC start at 00001? Or do they start at 10001?

Longhorn Man · 09-02-2002, 04:51 PM

Well, here is the break down, a picture of page 72 in my '69 GMC owners manual.

Longhorn Man · 09-02-2002, 04:54 PM

and this is the manual...although you can't make it out, the upper right hand corner says X-6900

*Fast68Chevy* · 09-02-2002, 06:32 PM

i have seen some sequentia, unit numbers on some of these turcks begin with 60000 and i dont know why, i coulda swore all were 10000 and up , but soe arent,,, wierd....

72 and up has extra letter digit at beginning of the VIn code, in later years 73-up there were CM CCL CCS, etc etc, all depnds on engine

and second digit signified 2wd or 4x4,

CCE in 72= conventional 2wd V8
CKS in 72= Conventional 4x4 6 cyl

and so forth,,,, you get the idea. look in your owners manuals and in your factory GM service manuals for more, info

also ther is a model code found on the fireweall pass side up high and also on the SPID lable on the glovebox door, the model code is normally the first code typed out on left hand side column, its is not part of the VIN, it is the bed/chassis type IE model code

Ex: CE10934

C= 2wd E= 1-= 10=series v8 09=127" 34'=fleetside

other suffixes(last two digits):
04= step
03=no bed/chassis cab
other models were made also, etc etc

wheelbase code of 10(4th and 5th digits)= longhorn/1 ton wheelbase(133")

mikep · 09-02-2002, 06:39 PM

I dont believe EGR came along until 1974. Same year as the catalytic converters in cars. Was it 76 in trucks for cats?

09-01-2002, 07:08 PM	#1
deadmeat521 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: pasadena,tx Posts: 31	vin info the first three letters in my vin are cce everywhere i have looked says it should be just ce can anyone tell me what the extra c stands for __________________ 72 pickup:vortec heads,msd ignition,& m22 rock crusher

09-01-2002, 07:33 PM	#2
ThreeQuarter Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Texan in Iowa Posts: 2,522	Is it a GMC? If it is then I'd just leave out the extra C and see how that decodes. The GMC vins were a little different, and not consistently different. I don't think anyone here has ever found a good source for decoding the extra numbers in GMC vins, but I'd be glad to find out if someone has! __________________ Ben '68 Chevy C10 Custom LWB 327/TH400 2nd owner '16 GMC Sierra 1500 SLE Dblcab 4wd 5.3

09-01-2002, 07:45 PM	#3
68 Stepside huh? Join Date: May 2000 Location: Washington, Illinois Posts: 5,690	I believe all 72 VINs started with CCE. Don't ask me why, maybe Chevy just wanted to be different? TJ __________________ Someday when I'm lonely, Wishing you weren't so far away, Then I will remember Things we said today. RIP El Jay

09-01-2002, 07:53 PM	#4
deadmeat521 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: pasadena,tx Posts: 31	it is a chevy c10 __________________ 72 pickup:vortec heads,msd ignition,& m22 rock crusher

09-01-2002, 07:59 PM	#5
bigvinnie Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: escondido, ca 92026 Posts: 1,222	I believe the extra c was for vehicles sold in california, as they had special emissions and were denoted as such. __________________ '72 short step, 350, 700R4, tilt, ps, pdb, a/c, lowered coils, etc., other work in progress... San Diego, CA 72 Stepside Project

09-01-2002, 08:18 PM	#6
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,690	In 72, GM put an extra letter in the begining of the VIN. I can't remember what GMC had, but C was added to all Chevy VINs. Ignore it, and decode the rest acording to all charts you just refered to.

09-01-2002, 08:24 PM	#8
bigvinnie Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: escondido, ca 92026 Posts: 1,222	I"ll take longhornmail's word for it, as I got my info from a newsgroup a while back and it could very well have been BS.... __________________ '72 short step, 350, 700R4, tilt, ps, pdb, a/c, lowered coils, etc., other work in progress... San Diego, CA 72 Stepside Project

09-01-2002, 11:19 PM	#9
Rod Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Eastern - Manitoba Canada, Winnipeg Posts: 4,369	The C in the first part of the 67-71 vin never stood for Chevrolet it stood for Convetional Cab. CE*** meant conventional cab eight cylinder. In 1972 GM added the C to stand for Chevrolet. in 1972 GM added a T to stand for GMC. so a 72 8cyl Chev pickup would start with CCE** so a 72 8 cly GMC would start with TCE***** GMC aint that hard to decode. You got one post it. __________________ Senior active founding member. 70 3/4 ton GMC Suburban 4x4 250/4 spd. 71 1/2 ton Suburban Chevy 4x4, 350/350 72 Chev 1 ton tow truck 402BB w/Holmes 440 wrecker on propane 2005 FLSTSCI Harley Springer 85 FXSB Harley Lowrider 72 Triumph 650 Bonneville 5spd "Poor people don't have hobbies" Quote from wife.

09-02-2002, 12:27 AM	#10
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,690	Mine is a 69...it doesn't have the added letter at the begining. i don't have my VIN handy, but Ithink it is; CM10DSA12797...I might be a little off on the numbers at the ehnd...but it is something close to that. C = Conv. cab M = V6 gas engine 10 = 1/2 ton D = Fleet bed (wide side in '69 GMC manual) S = assembly plant...not sure which one. A = '96 12797 = 12797th built in the model year.

09-02-2002, 01:16 AM	#11
deadmeat521 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: pasadena,tx Posts: 31	thx for the info __________________ 72 pickup:vortec heads,msd ignition,& m22 rock crusher

09-02-2002, 10:14 AM	#13
Rod Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Eastern - Manitoba Canada, Winnipeg Posts: 4,369	Lets see.... without actully looking it up. Hmm the C = conventional cab M =V6 1 = half ton OD = meant fleetside S =St louis A =1969 12797 = 12797th built in the model year. Some of those USA built GMC's have thing a little different than Canadian built GMC's. __________________ Senior active founding member. 70 3/4 ton GMC Suburban 4x4 250/4 spd. 71 1/2 ton Suburban Chevy 4x4, 350/350 72 Chev 1 ton tow truck 402BB w/Holmes 440 wrecker on propane 2005 FLSTSCI Harley Springer 85 FXSB Harley Lowrider 72 Triumph 650 Bonneville 5spd "Poor people don't have hobbies" Quote from wife.

09-02-2002, 03:11 PM	#14
CE20934 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Help! I'm in an office park with its own network of freeways! Posts: 470	I know on Chevys the sequential number starts at 100001, not 000001. Going by what's posted above, does GMC start at 00001? Or do they start at 10001? __________________ '67 C20--427 tall deck/SM420, 4.10 HO52 (Michigan has not been kind to the Old Man) '95 Caprice--355 LT1/T56/3.42 8.5" 10-bolt (daily driver, almost 300k on the chassis) '07 Outback--wife's car. 125k & counting. No head gasket or transmission issues yet. fingers crossed

09-02-2002, 04:51 PM	#15
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,690	Well, here is the break down, a picture of page 72 in my '69 GMC owners manual. Attached Images

09-02-2002, 04:54 PM	#16
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,690	and this is the manual...although you can't make it out, the upper right hand corner says X-6900 Attached Images

09-02-2002, 06:32 PM	#17
Fast68Chevy Account Suspended Join Date: May 2000 Location: IL Posts: 0	i have seen some sequentia, unit numbers on some of these turcks begin with 60000 and i dont know why, i coulda swore all were 10000 and up , but soe arent,,, wierd.... 72 and up has extra letter digit at beginning of the VIn code, in later years 73-up there were CM CCL CCS, etc etc, all depnds on engine and second digit signified 2wd or 4x4, CCE in 72= conventional 2wd V8 CKS in 72= Conventional 4x4 6 cyl and so forth,,,, you get the idea. look in your owners manuals and in your factory GM service manuals for more, info also ther is a model code found on the fireweall pass side up high and also on the SPID lable on the glovebox door, the model code is normally the first code typed out on left hand side column, its is not part of the VIN, it is the bed/chassis type IE model code Ex: CE10934 C= 2wd E= 1-= 10=series v8 09=127" 34'=fleetside other suffixes(last two digits): 04= step 03=no bed/chassis cab other models were made also, etc etc wheelbase code of 10(4th and 5th digits)= longhorn/1 ton wheelbase(133")



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09-02-2002, 06:39 PM	#18
mikep Used to have a truck Join Date: May 2002 Location: port orchard WA Posts: 1,552	I dont believe EGR came along until 1974. Same year as the catalytic converters in cars. Was it 76 in trucks for cats? __________________ No truck :-(

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