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Pumkin Truck · 04-21-2002, 01:54 PM

I have never heard of these until i read the post the other day. What made these so great? why doesnt anyone run these no more?
just wondering, thanks.

69 longhorn · 04-21-2002, 02:09 PM

They were single overhead cam (SOHC 427)crate engines. If I remember the story right,nascar wouldnt let them run,so mostly they campained the drag strips....fighting with the chrysler Hemi. I dont remember the exact figures,but a carburated cammer was in the range of 700hp/700 ft lb!!!!!!!!!

Longhorn Man · 04-21-2002, 02:51 PM

Actually, I don't think it was a crate motor.
It was an awsome big block though. It was made in the '60's and like said before, had a single over head cam in each head, driven by a huge belt.
The belt (or was it a chain??) was the downfall of this engine. It would streach after a shrot time and play h*ll with the timing.

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'69 G.M.C. 350/350. Trying to clean up the left over damage from the Dope-Smokin-Old-Man
I've been dubbed the Longhorn Freak/Fanatic/Expert, I just hope I can live up to it.
FINALLY got the HORNIAC...a '70 one ton Longhorn with a Pontiac 350/350 and lots of 'personality'. Check out The Longhorn Webite.
If you need a pic posted, E-mail me at longhornmail@yahoo.com
Andy, in Columbus Ohio

Pumkin Truck · 04-21-2002, 03:08 PM

so these motors made big power with a cam in each head that had a belt or chain that would wear quickly that would be too costly to repair? So they dont make these any more, would the belt be the only reason people dont run these? What did they put these motors in when they were made in teh 60's

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Longhorn Man · 04-21-2002, 03:45 PM

Here is what I could dig up...

engine type; 8 cylinder 90 degree, OHV

displacement; 427 CID

Foundry group; Ford-Edsel (FE)

Maximum horsepower 616 Bhp @ 7,000rpm (4V)
657 Bhp @ 7,500rpm (8V)

Maximum torque 515 lbs./ft. @ 3,800rpm (4V)
575 lbs./ft. @ 4,200rpm (8V)

Maximum standard bore x stroke; 4.232" x 3.784"

Heavy-duty mains? crossbolted

Compression ratio; (advertised**) 12.0:1

Combustion chamber(volume); 118.5cc - 121.5cc
hemispherical type)

Carburetor; Holley 4150-C (4V - 710cfm)
Holley 4160 (8V - 2 @ 780cfm)

Fuel requirement; super premium

Intake manifold mat'l. aluminum

Valve-train type; solid/adjustable

Intake valve; (head diameter) 2.235" - 2.265"

Exhaust valve; (head diameter) 1.938" - 1.968"

Distributor; dual-pointset mechanical advance

Transistor ignition option: single-pointset
mechanical advance

Spark plugs; Autolite BF-32

Emission controls; (50 states) n/a

Assembled weight 680 lbs.****

Footnotes and Remarks
Look for asterisks in the main text, above

* Introduced May, 1964, installed in a Galaxie 500. Available only through Holman-Moody after late 1969.

** As advertised for prototype units; maximum was probably 13.5:1

*** Prototype units were shown using the standard 427 dual-pointset, mechanical advance distributors.

**** Both cast iron and aluminum cylinder heads were offered, so listed weight is maximum for a complete 4V unit.

As seen on http://www.fomoco.com/index.asp?Dept...Textbook&Eng=7 ...an official Ford site.

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'69 G.M.C. 350/350. Trying to clean up the left over damage from the Dope-Smokin-Old-Man
I've been dubbed the Longhorn Freak/Fanatic/Expert, I just hope I can live up to it.
FINALLY got the HORNIAC...a '70 one ton Longhorn with a Pontiac 350/350 and lots of 'personality'. Check out The Longhorn Webite.
If you need a pic posted, E-mail me at longhornmail@yahoo.com
Andy, in Columbus Ohio

Longhorn Man · 04-21-2002, 03:50 PM

Also, I'm not sure if the A/C Shelby cobras had cammers, or regular 427's...but I know thwey were available with the 260, 289, 427 and 428.

here is a link to a chart showing the assorted 427's, there oput put, and details of each engine. http://www.thecarsource.com/fords/en...427engine.html
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'69 G.M.C. 350/350. Trying to clean up the left over damage from the Dope-Smokin-Old-Man
I've been dubbed the Longhorn Freak/Fanatic/Expert, I just hope I can live up to it.
FINALLY got the HORNIAC...a '70 one ton Longhorn with a Pontiac 350/350 and lots of 'personality'. Check out The Longhorn Webite.
If you need a pic posted, E-mail me at longhornmail@yahoo.com
Andy, in Columbus Ohio

[This message has been edited by longhornmail (edited April 21, 2002).]

69 longhorn · 04-21-2002, 08:46 PM

I couldnt find all the info that i wanted on the cammer,but these engines were built for racing only. To my knowledge, they didnt come in any production cars. They are based on the FE series block. the Fe family includes 352,390,406,427,428. One article that i read stated that a few of these engines may have found their way into street cars. I have a link,& about 1/2 way down the page there is a small paragragh on the cammer(top fuel). http://www.draglist.com/Danny/fordfuel.htm

lukecp · 04-21-2002, 09:28 PM

I've never been too big on Fords....but i would kill to have a Shelby Corba with a SOCH 427 in it! I saw one on My Classic Car a while back, and it was love at first sight, lol.

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Longhorn Man · 04-21-2002, 10:10 PM

Ford says the Galaxie 500 had it for a little while...that'd be an awsome score today huh?

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'69 G.M.C. 350/350. Trying to clean up the left over damage from the Dope-Smokin-Old-Man
I've been dubbed the Longhorn Freak/Fanatic/Expert, I just hope I can live up to it.
FINALLY got the HORNIAC...a '70 one ton Longhorn with a Pontiac 350/350 and lots of 'personality'. Check out The Longhorn Webite.
If you need a pic posted, E-mail me at longhornmail@yahoo.com
Andy, in Columbus Ohio

69 longhorn · 04-21-2002, 10:12 PM

Was that installed by Holman/Moody?

Pumkin Truck · 04-21-2002, 10:19 PM

Wow guys thats a lot more info than i expected! thanks a lot. I have one more question, if these motors were meant strictly for racing, then why didnt nascar allow them? they allowed hemi's right? Could they befound in boneyards kinda like a diamond in the rough? Sorry thats 2 questions.

Longhorn Man · 04-21-2002, 10:27 PM

Good luck on the junk yard score...you hardly find any good ford motors. (if I can say good and ford in the same line here) The good ones were snatched up years ago. I guess there are 2 or 3 in the yards somewhere. kinda like a Hemi though...good luck.
I think they outlawed hemis too (NASCAR).
The Cammer was a top fuler faveorite for a long time too.

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'69 G.M.C. 350/350. Trying to clean up the left over damage from the Dope-Smokin-Old-Man
I've been dubbed the Longhorn Freak/Fanatic/Expert, I just hope I can live up to it.
FINALLY got the HORNIAC...a '70 one ton Longhorn with a Pontiac 350/350 and lots of 'personality'. Check out The Longhorn Webite.
If you need a pic posted, E-mail me at longhornmail@yahoo.com
Andy, in Columbus Ohio

69 longhorn · 04-21-2002, 10:32 PM

its been too long ago since i read that article,(they say your mind goes first..hehe)But the only place that i have seen the cammer was on the strip.....except 1 Ford show,a guy had 1 in a 67 Ford shortbed,& also a spare engine. But the guy didnt drive the d@mn Ford!.........69

BLAZERMAN · 04-21-2002, 10:37 PM

I dont know about the other years but ford produced at least 500 of the 429 SOHC IN 69 and 70 just so they could run in nascar, they all came out in mustang mach 1s.

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72 Blazer CST, 2-1/2" skyjacker lift with 33x12.50 bfg's

71 Cheyenne K-20,4" tuff country lift with 36's.

69 Custom 30 long stepside 4" rancho lift 36" directional tires,14 bolt rear with detroit locker,dana 60 front with trac-loc

1987 k-5 blazer

2001 Intrepid

Project1970 · 04-21-2002, 10:40 PM

Cobras never CAME with Cammers (they were lucky to get 427s, period...all of the boys at Shelby's factory thought it was too much motor and preferred 289s!!! My dream Cobra is a Factory Five with a 302 or 351...I digress...) but I have seen/ridden in one (don't know how many people have done like it?), an ERA kit with the infamous banned-from-NASCAR Cammer engine. I was too young to truly appreciate it at the time, but I still honestly remember it going like a raped ape and then some...the ONLY vehicle I've ridden in yet that could make the next four fastest cars I've ridden in - a 1999 Z28, 1994 Z28 (the one I get to play with on track days, hehe.), 1993 Z28 (around The Brickyard!!! that was sweeeeeet, seeing Indy from the track at 110...), and a 1986 911 Turbo - seem horribly slow. That kind of horsepower in a 2000lb car does that.

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Longhorn Man · 04-21-2002, 10:52 PM

I thought the 429 was a cam in block deal...the 427 was there only overhead cam back in the day wasn't it?
I wasn't sure if the cobra got the cammer or the cam in block. I know the firs batch had the small blocks...first 260, then 289.
To this day, no regular production car has topped the A/C Shelby Cobra's 0 to 100 to 0 times...13 seconds flat. WOW Althoguh...was it ever considered a production car? I know Shelby was licensed as a manufacturer and not a tuner guy...
Guess I need to do some more research.

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'69 G.M.C. 350/350. Trying to clean up the left over damage from the Dope-Smokin-Old-Man
I've been dubbed the Longhorn Freak/Fanatic/Expert, I just hope I can live up to it.
FINALLY got the HORNIAC...a '70 one ton Longhorn with a Pontiac 350/350 and lots of 'personality'. Check out The Longhorn Webite.
If you need a pic posted, E-mail me at longhornmail@yahoo.com
Andy, in Columbus Ohio

BLAZERMAN · 04-21-2002, 11:19 PM

Longhorn Man · 04-21-2002, 11:32 PM

one word....WOW!!!!!

lux hauler · 04-21-2002, 11:45 PM

That's the Boss 429 (Mustang). They were built in '69 and '70. They built those so they could use the motor in NASCAR. I guess a certain number of these motors had to see the streets to be used in racing. That car is valued right up there with the Hemi Cuda....or at least pretty close.

I seen a 427 SOHC for sale in a magazine a few years back. If I'm not mistaken, they wanted $15,000 for it. I'm not even sure if there are any parts made for them anymore. I get a few Ford magazines. Evey once in a while they will feature a car that has a cammer in it.

Longhorn Man · 04-21-2002, 11:59 PM

Wait, your right...that is a boss...with the semi-hemi heads.
(not 100% sure) but I'm pretty sure the boss 429 was a cam in block. It was raced in nascar, which by there rulse, it had to be offered a factory car. Ford put it in 1357 Mustangs instead of the Torino which is what was raced back then. Chevy and Chrysler guys whined about that. I think they were only required to do 500.
D@mn I need to find my old ford books.

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'69 G.M.C. 350/350. Trying to clean up the left over damage from the Dope-Smokin-Old-Man
I've been dubbed the Longhorn Freak/Fanatic/Expert, I just hope I can live up to it.
FINALLY got the HORNIAC...a '70 one ton Longhorn with a Pontiac 350/350 and lots of 'personality'. Check out The Longhorn Webite.
If you need a pic posted, E-mail me at longhornmail@yahoo.com
Andy, in Columbus Ohio

[This message has been edited by longhornmail (edited April 22, 2002).]

04-21-2002, 01:54 PM	#1
Pumkin Truck Thats just prime! Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: TEXAS Posts: 720	What exactly were Cammers? I have never heard of these until i read the post the other day. What made these so great? why doesnt anyone run these no more? just wondering, thanks. __________________ 69 GMC short bed stepside with a wimpy six that can barely pull itself. 99 Chevrolet Camaro Z-28 1 Bad 5.7ltr LS1

04-21-2002, 02:09 PM	#2
69 longhorn Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: rock island,il,usa Posts: 5,382	They were single overhead cam (SOHC 427)crate engines. If I remember the story right,nascar wouldnt let them run,so mostly they campained the drag strips....fighting with the chrysler Hemi. I dont remember the exact figures,but a carburated cammer was in the range of 700hp/700 ft lb!!!!!!!!! __________________ http://community.webshots.com/user/hotrodhorn

04-21-2002, 03:08 PM	#4
Pumkin Truck Thats just prime! Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: TEXAS Posts: 720	so these motors made big power with a cam in each head that had a belt or chain that would wear quickly that would be too costly to repair? So they dont make these any more, would the belt be the only reason people dont run these? What did they put these motors in when they were made in teh 60's ------------------ 1969 Gmc swb stepside Wimpy six soon to be a 500cid cadillac!! __________________ 69 GMC short bed stepside with a wimpy six that can barely pull itself. 99 Chevrolet Camaro Z-28 1 Bad 5.7ltr LS1

04-21-2002, 08:46 PM	#7
69 longhorn Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: rock island,il,usa Posts: 5,382	I couldnt find all the info that i wanted on the cammer,but these engines were built for racing only. To my knowledge, they didnt come in any production cars. They are based on the FE series block. the Fe family includes 352,390,406,427,428. One article that i read stated that a few of these engines may have found their way into street cars. I have a link,& about 1/2 way down the page there is a small paragragh on the cammer(top fuel). http://www.draglist.com/Danny/fordfuel.htm __________________ http://community.webshots.com/user/hotrodhorn

04-21-2002, 09:28 PM	#8
lukecp Formerly yellow72custom Join Date: May 2001 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 7,531	I've never been too big on Fords....but i would kill to have a Shelby Corba with a SOCH 427 in it! I saw one on My Classic Car a while back, and it was love at first sight, lol. ------------------ Lucas "Another proud owner of one of the coolest trucks ever built" drop_shift@hotmail.com My Daily-Driver: '72 Chevy LWB Custom/10. Rebuilt 350, 300 HP thanks to a few go-fast goodies. Ochre with a white top. Future plans include TBI fuel injection, a 700R4 tranny, and possibly some 3.73 rear gears. __________________ '72 Chevy C10 Mild 350/TH350/3.07. Ochre/White. Old high school ride. '70 GMC C2500 '62 327 4bbl/SM465/4.56-geared Dana 60. White/White. Project or parts truck. '97 Saturn SL DD. 1.9/5-speed. 40+ highway mpg

04-21-2002, 02:51 PM	#3
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,690	Actually, I don't think it was a crate motor. It was an awsome big block though. It was made in the '60's and like said before, had a single over head cam in each head, driven by a huge belt. The belt (or was it a chain??) was the downfall of this engine. It would streach after a shrot time and play hll with the timing. ------------------ '69 G.M.C. 350/350. Trying to clean up the left over damage from the Dope-Smokin-Old-Man* I've been dubbed the Longhorn Freak/Fanatic/Expert, I just hope I can live up to it. FINALLY got the HORNIAC...a '70 one ton Longhorn with a Pontiac 350/350 and lots of 'personality'. Check out The Longhorn Webite. If you need a pic posted, E-mail me at longhornmail@yahoo.com Andy, in Columbus Ohio

04-21-2002, 03:45 PM	#5
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,690	Here is what I could dig up... engine type; 8 cylinder 90 degree, OHV displacement; 427 CID Foundry group; Ford-Edsel (FE) Maximum horsepower 616 Bhp @ 7,000rpm (4V) 657 Bhp @ 7,500rpm (8V) Maximum torque 515 lbs./ft. @ 3,800rpm (4V) 575 lbs./ft. @ 4,200rpm (8V) Maximum standard bore x stroke; 4.232" x 3.784" Heavy-duty mains? crossbolted Compression ratio; (advertised) 12.0:1 Combustion chamber(volume); 118.5cc - 121.5cc hemispherical type) Carburetor; Holley 4150-C (4V - 710cfm) Holley 4160 (8V - 2 @ 780cfm) Fuel requirement; super premium Intake manifold mat'l. aluminum Valve-train type; solid/adjustable Intake valve; (head diameter) 2.235" - 2.265" Exhaust valve; (head diameter) 1.938" - 1.968" Distributor; dual-pointset mechanical advance Transistor ignition option: single-pointset mechanical advance Spark plugs; Autolite BF-32 Emission controls; (50 states) n/a Assembled weight 680 lbs.** Footnotes and Remarks Look for asterisks in the main text, above * Introduced May, 1964, installed in a Galaxie 500. Available only through Holman-Moody after late 1969. As advertised for prototype units; maximum was probably 13.5:1 * Prototype units were shown using the standard 427 dual-pointset, mechanical advance distributors. **** Both cast iron and aluminum cylinder heads were offered, so listed weight is maximum for a complete 4V unit. As seen on http://www.fomoco.com/index.asp?Dept...Textbook&Eng=7 ...an official Ford site. ------------------ '69 G.M.C. 350/350. Trying to clean up the left over damage from the Dope-Smokin-Old-Man I've been dubbed the Longhorn Freak/Fanatic/Expert, I just hope I can live up to it. FINALLY got the HORNIAC...a '70 one ton Longhorn with a Pontiac 350/350 and lots of 'personality'. Check out The Longhorn Webite. If you need a pic posted, E-mail me at longhornmail@yahoo.com Andy, in Columbus Ohio

04-21-2002, 03:50 PM	#6
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,690	Also, I'm not sure if the A/C Shelby cobras had cammers, or regular 427's...but I know thwey were available with the 260, 289, 427 and 428. here is a link to a chart showing the assorted 427's, there oput put, and details of each engine. http://www.thecarsource.com/fords/en...427engine.html ------------------ '69 G.M.C. 350/350. Trying to clean up the left over damage from the Dope-Smokin-Old-Man I've been dubbed the Longhorn Freak/Fanatic/Expert, I just hope I can live up to it. FINALLY got the HORNIAC...a '70 one ton Longhorn with a Pontiac 350/350 and lots of 'personality'. Check out The Longhorn Webite. If you need a pic posted, E-mail me at longhornmail@yahoo.com Andy, in Columbus Ohio [This message has been edited by longhornmail (edited April 21, 2002).]

04-21-2002, 10:10 PM	#9
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,690	Ford says the Galaxie 500 had it for a little while...that'd be an awsome score today huh? ------------------ '69 G.M.C. 350/350. Trying to clean up the left over damage from the Dope-Smokin-Old-Man I've been dubbed the Longhorn Freak/Fanatic/Expert, I just hope I can live up to it. FINALLY got the HORNIAC...a '70 one ton Longhorn with a Pontiac 350/350 and lots of 'personality'. Check out The Longhorn Webite. If you need a pic posted, E-mail me at longhornmail@yahoo.com Andy, in Columbus Ohio

04-21-2002, 10:12 PM	#10
69 longhorn Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: rock island,il,usa Posts: 5,382	Was that installed by Holman/Moody? __________________ http://community.webshots.com/user/hotrodhorn

04-21-2002, 10:19 PM	#11
Pumkin Truck Thats just prime! Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: TEXAS Posts: 720	Wow guys thats a lot more info than i expected! thanks a lot. I have one more question, if these motors were meant strictly for racing, then why didnt nascar allow them? they allowed hemi's right? Could they befound in boneyards kinda like a diamond in the rough? Sorry thats 2 questions. __________________ 69 GMC short bed stepside with a wimpy six that can barely pull itself. 99 Chevrolet Camaro Z-28 1 Bad 5.7ltr LS1

04-21-2002, 10:27 PM	#12
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,690	Good luck on the junk yard score...you hardly find any good ford motors. (if I can say good and ford in the same line here) The good ones were snatched up years ago. I guess there are 2 or 3 in the yards somewhere. kinda like a Hemi though...good luck. I think they outlawed hemis too (NASCAR). The Cammer was a top fuler faveorite for a long time too. ------------------ '69 G.M.C. 350/350. Trying to clean up the left over damage from the Dope-Smokin-Old-Man I've been dubbed the Longhorn Freak/Fanatic/Expert, I just hope I can live up to it. FINALLY got the HORNIAC...a '70 one ton Longhorn with a Pontiac 350/350 and lots of 'personality'. Check out The Longhorn Webite. If you need a pic posted, E-mail me at longhornmail@yahoo.com Andy, in Columbus Ohio

04-21-2002, 10:32 PM	#13
69 longhorn Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: rock island,il,usa Posts: 5,382	its been too long ago since i read that article,(they say your mind goes first..hehe)But the only place that i have seen the cammer was on the strip.....except 1 Ford show,a guy had 1 in a 67 Ford shortbed,& also a spare engine. But the guy didnt drive the d@mn Ford!.........69 __________________ http://community.webshots.com/user/hotrodhorn

04-21-2002, 10:37 PM	#14
BLAZERMAN Currently Blazerless Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: St. Joseph Mo. Posts: 4,828	I dont know about the other years but ford produced at least 500 of the 429 SOHC IN 69 and 70 just so they could run in nascar, they all came out in mustang mach 1s. ------------------ 72 Blazer CST, 2-1/2" skyjacker lift with 33x12.50 bfg's 71 Cheyenne K-20,4" tuff country lift with 36's. 69 Custom 30 long stepside 4" rancho lift 36" directional tires,14 bolt rear with detroit locker,dana 60 front with trac-loc 1987 k-5 blazer 2001 Intrepid __________________ 1972 C/30 133" W.B. C&C 1970 GMC 3500 157" W.B. single wheel C&C

04-21-2002, 10:40 PM	#15
Project1970 14.1 @ 96MPH Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Mesa, AZ Posts: 2,811	Cobras never CAME with Cammers (they were lucky to get 427s, period...all of the boys at Shelby's factory thought it was too much motor and preferred 289s!!! My dream Cobra is a Factory Five with a 302 or 351...I digress...) but I have seen/ridden in one (don't know how many people have done like it?), an ERA kit with the infamous banned-from-NASCAR Cammer engine. I was too young to truly appreciate it at the time, but I still honestly remember it going like a raped ape and then some...the ONLY vehicle I've ridden in yet that could make the next four fastest cars I've ridden in - a 1999 Z28, 1994 Z28 (the one I get to play with on track days, hehe.), 1993 Z28 (around The Brickyard!!! that was sweeeeeet, seeing Indy from the track at 110...), and a 1986 911 Turbo - seem horribly slow. That kind of horsepower in a 2000lb car does that. ------------------ Project 1970 - soon to be seen at http://milhouse.treylis.org:81/ __________________ Project1970 - LS1 Swap Complete!



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04-21-2002, 10:52 PM	#16
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,690	I thought the 429 was a cam in block deal...the 427 was there only overhead cam back in the day wasn't it? I wasn't sure if the cobra got the cammer or the cam in block. I know the firs batch had the small blocks...first 260, then 289. To this day, no regular production car has topped the A/C Shelby Cobra's 0 to 100 to 0 times...13 seconds flat. WOW Althoguh...was it ever considered a production car? I know Shelby was licensed as a manufacturer and not a tuner guy... Guess I need to do some more research. ------------------ '69 G.M.C. 350/350. Trying to clean up the left over damage from the Dope-Smokin-Old-Man I've been dubbed the Longhorn Freak/Fanatic/Expert, I just hope I can live up to it. FINALLY got the HORNIAC...a '70 one ton Longhorn with a Pontiac 350/350 and lots of 'personality'. Check out The Longhorn Webite. If you need a pic posted, E-mail me at longhornmail@yahoo.com Andy, in Columbus Ohio

04-21-2002, 11:19 PM	#17
BLAZERMAN Currently Blazerless Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: St. Joseph Mo. Posts: 4,828	__________________ 1972 C/30 133" W.B. C&C 1970 GMC 3500 157" W.B. single wheel C&C

04-21-2002, 11:32 PM	#18
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,690	one word....WOW!!!!!

04-21-2002, 11:45 PM	#19
lux hauler Psycho-billy Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: about 40 miles west of Cleveland, Ohio Posts: 2,591	That's the Boss 429 (Mustang). They were built in '69 and '70. They built those so they could use the motor in NASCAR. I guess a certain number of these motors had to see the streets to be used in racing. That car is valued right up there with the Hemi Cuda....or at least pretty close. I seen a 427 SOHC for sale in a magazine a few years back. If I'm not mistaken, they wanted $15,000 for it. I'm not even sure if there are any parts made for them anymore. I get a few Ford magazines. Evey once in a while they will feature a car that has a cammer in it. __________________ '72 C-10 350 w/Lunati Voodoo cam (207/213, .437/.454), Performer intake, 625 Road Demon Jr. and Hooker headers. Support your community, support yourself. Buy local, buy American (or Canadian).

04-21-2002, 11:59 PM	#20
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,690	Wait, your right...that is a boss...with the semi-hemi heads. (not 100% sure) but I'm pretty sure the boss 429 was a cam in block. It was raced in nascar, which by there rulse, it had to be offered a factory car. Ford put it in 1357 Mustangs instead of the Torino which is what was raced back then. Chevy and Chrysler guys whined about that. I think they were only required to do 500. D@mn I need to find my old ford books. ------------------ '69 G.M.C. 350/350. Trying to clean up the left over damage from the Dope-Smokin-Old-Man I've been dubbed the Longhorn Freak/Fanatic/Expert, I just hope I can live up to it. FINALLY got the HORNIAC...a '70 one ton Longhorn with a Pontiac 350/350 and lots of 'personality'. Check out The Longhorn Webite. If you need a pic posted, E-mail me at longhornmail@yahoo.com Andy, in Columbus Ohio [This message has been edited by longhornmail (edited April 22, 2002).]

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