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Old 04-18-2002, 11:45 AM   #1
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Post I have to run an electric fan, what should I get?

My '72 suburban 4x4 is in desprate need of a good fan. Heres the deal. I just had a new motor installed and everythings working great, but the fan is not pulling enough air through the radiator. At some point the engine, transmission and transfer case had been moved back 4" inches to the 6 cylinder mounting holes and the fan is just too far from the radiator to pull sufficent air through. I think whoever lifted the sub must have moved all the drivetrain back 4 inches to confinsate for the added lift so they would only have to lengthen the front shaft. Its CRAZY!!! Another thing that makes the project difficult is the fact that the radiator looks to have come out of a 73-80 big block truck, so my fan shroud wont work. I just want to make it simple and install a big electric fan on the radiator and call it good. What should I get to keep the rig cool off road?

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'63 Impala SS 283, 3-on-the tree, flowmaster 2 1/4" dual exhaust, performer intake, edelbrock 600 carb, chrome 15x8 rally's
'65 Impala SS, built 332, 700R4, 3.73, 2 1/2" mandral bent duals w/H pipe, Flowmaster 40-series deltaflows, MSD Mallory, too many modifications to list
'72 Chevy Suburban 4x4, NP205, TH350, balanced 357 (.040 350), 268 high energy cam, 9.2:1 comp, 1.94/1.50 heads (ENGINE BUILT BY THE GREAT RAYZOR or if you know him RAY, WHO POSTS ON THIS BOARD AND CHEVYTALK), 3/4 ton leaf springs, 4" lift, 35/12.5/16.5 Grabber MT's, Rancho shocks, Rancho dual steering stabalizer, American Eagle 143's 16.5x9.75 6 lug, 4.10's, 12 bolt rear limited slip, Dana 44 front limited slip. Carter 600, performer intake, headers and flowmaster exhaust system very soon.
'74 GMC 1500 Super Custom, Factory 3/4 ton springs, built 400sb w/3947040 heads, 475 hp, 750 edelbrock, ceramic headers, TH350, B&M holeshot 2000, 2 1/2" duals w/ H-Pipe, 40-series delta-flow Flowmasters, Gibson tips, Fey Outlaw 8" drop bumper.
'95 Impala SS Flowmaster cat-back, K&N, 255/50/17 G-Force T/A, Dark cherry metallic, 27,000 miles, extreamly fun vehicle
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Old 04-18-2002, 12:26 PM   #2
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I think a shroud would be a good place to start,some people dont likem but id use a fan spacer,but i wouldnt put it on a cheapy flex fan find a oem all metal 6 or 7 blader.
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Old 04-18-2002, 12:49 PM   #3
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I have to use an electric fan. I already have a shroud and spacer and it doesn't do the job. The fan is more than a foot away from the radiator. I need low speed cooling.

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'65 Impala SS, built 332, 700R4, 3.73, 2 1/2" mandral bent duals w/H pipe, Flowmaster 40-series deltaflows, MSD Mallory, too many modifications to list
'72 Chevy Suburban 4x4, NP205, TH350, balanced 357 (.040 350), 268 high energy cam, 9.2:1 comp, 1.94/1.50 heads (ENGINE BUILT BY THE GREAT RAYZOR or if you know him RAY, WHO POSTS ON THIS BOARD AND CHEVYTALK), 3/4 ton leaf springs, 4" lift, 35/12.5/16.5 Grabber MT's, Rancho shocks, Rancho dual steering stabalizer, American Eagle 143's 16.5x9.75 6 lug, 4.10's, 12 bolt rear limited slip, Dana 44 front limited slip. Carter 600, performer intake, headers and flowmaster exhaust system very soon.
'74 GMC 1500 Super Custom, Factory 3/4 ton springs, rebuilt 350/TH350, ceramic headers, 2 1/2" duals w/ H-Pipe, 40-series delta-flow Flowmasters, Gibson tips, 15x8 eagle alloy 058 wheels and 31/10.5/15 ProComp M/T's, Fey Outlaw 8" drop bumper. More mods soon...
'95 Impala SS Flowmaster cat-back, K&N, 285/40/17 Firehawks, Dark cherry metallic, 27,000 miles, extreamly fun vehicle
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'63 Impala SS 283, 3-on-the tree, flowmaster 2 1/4" dual exhaust, performer intake, edelbrock 600 carb, chrome 15x8 rally's
'65 Impala SS, built 332, 700R4, 3.73, 2 1/2" mandral bent duals w/H pipe, Flowmaster 40-series deltaflows, MSD Mallory, too many modifications to list
'72 Chevy Suburban 4x4, NP205, TH350, balanced 357 (.040 350), 268 high energy cam, 9.2:1 comp, 1.94/1.50 heads (ENGINE BUILT BY THE GREAT RAYZOR or if you know him RAY, WHO POSTS ON THIS BOARD AND CHEVYTALK), 3/4 ton leaf springs, 4" lift, 35/12.5/16.5 Grabber MT's, Rancho shocks, Rancho dual steering stabalizer, American Eagle 143's 16.5x9.75 6 lug, 4.10's, 12 bolt rear limited slip, Dana 44 front limited slip. Carter 600, performer intake, headers and flowmaster exhaust system very soon.
'74 GMC 1500 Super Custom, Factory 3/4 ton springs, built 400sb w/3947040 heads, 475 hp, 750 edelbrock, ceramic headers, TH350, B&M holeshot 2000, 2 1/2" duals w/ H-Pipe, 40-series delta-flow Flowmasters, Gibson tips, Fey Outlaw 8" drop bumper.
'95 Impala SS Flowmaster cat-back, K&N, 255/50/17 G-Force T/A, Dark cherry metallic, 27,000 miles, extreamly fun vehicle
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Old 04-18-2002, 12:51 PM   #4
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All of the '72 4x4 small blocks have the engine in the 6 cyl position. The 4x4 shroud is deeper, so your fan would still be inside. Maybe get the correct radiator and shroud?

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Old 04-18-2002, 01:10 PM   #5
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I bought an electric fan setup from Wes. It works very well. I think the site is www.classicheartbeat.com
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Old 04-18-2002, 01:28 PM   #6
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I used two 14" PermaCool electric fans with a homemade aluminium shroud.I only need to run one of the fans as it is pretty mild where I live.
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Old 04-18-2002, 05:23 PM   #7
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The engine is not on the stock mounting location, its about 4 inches back. I just need to know what kind of electric fan you guys recommend? I need a fan that can really move some air!

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'65 Impala SS, built 332, 700R4, 3.73, 2 1/2" mandral bent duals w/H pipe, Flowmaster 40-series deltaflows, MSD Mallory, too many modifications to list
'72 Chevy Suburban 4x4, NP205, TH350, balanced 357 (.040 350), 268 high energy cam, 9.2:1 comp, 1.94/1.50 heads (ENGINE BUILT BY THE GREAT RAYZOR or if you know him RAY, WHO POSTS ON THIS BOARD AND CHEVYTALK), 3/4 ton leaf springs, 4" lift, 35/12.5/16.5 Grabber MT's, Rancho shocks, Rancho dual steering stabalizer, American Eagle 143's 16.5x9.75 6 lug, 4.10's, 12 bolt rear limited slip, Dana 44 front limited slip. Carter 600, performer intake, headers and flowmaster exhaust system very soon.
'74 GMC 1500 Super Custom, Factory 3/4 ton springs, built 400sb w/3947040 heads, 475 hp, 750 edelbrock, ceramic headers, TH350, B&M holeshot 2000, 2 1/2" duals w/ H-Pipe, 40-series delta-flow Flowmasters, Gibson tips, Fey Outlaw 8" drop bumper.
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Old 04-18-2002, 05:27 PM   #8
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somebody already suggested the fan kit from Wes.... I'm using a black magic fan from Flexalite, got it from summit.... it pulls 2800 cfm of air.... works great...

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Old 04-18-2002, 05:33 PM   #9
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Hey bigvinnie,

So you have no low speed cooling problems with that fan? Also is it just a single fan?

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'65 Impala SS, built 332, 700R4, 3.73, 2 1/2" mandral bent duals w/H pipe, Flowmaster 40-series deltaflows, MSD Mallory, too many modifications to list
'72 Chevy Suburban 4x4, NP205, TH350, balanced 357 (.040 350), 268 high energy cam, 9.2:1 comp, 1.94/1.50 heads (ENGINE BUILT BY THE GREAT RAYZOR or if you know him RAY, WHO POSTS ON THIS BOARD AND CHEVYTALK), 3/4 ton leaf springs, 4" lift, 35/12.5/16.5 Grabber MT's, Rancho shocks, Rancho dual steering stabalizer, American Eagle 143's 16.5x9.75 6 lug, 4.10's, 12 bolt rear limited slip, Dana 44 front limited slip. Carter 600, performer intake, headers and flowmaster exhaust system very soon.
'74 GMC 1500 Super Custom, Factory 3/4 ton springs, built 400sb w/3947040 heads, 475 hp, 750 edelbrock, ceramic headers, TH350, B&M holeshot 2000, 2 1/2" duals w/ H-Pipe, 40-series delta-flow Flowmasters, Gibson tips, Fey Outlaw 8" drop bumper.
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Old 04-18-2002, 05:56 PM   #10
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I just got a dual fan and shroud setup from Wes, very high quallity work on the shroud, have'nt got it hooked up yet cause I just ordered a new four core radiator to use it on but I am sure it's going to do a better job than my old setup, if you check I'll bet your motor is in the stock location, I dont see any way to move one back any further than stock.

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Here is the fan system that the guys are talking about. This one is installed in my 4X4 Blazer with a big block. It has been there for over two years and I would never go back to manual fans again.




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Old 04-18-2002, 07:42 PM   #12
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The cheapest way to go would be to get a "Ferd Taurus" electric fan at a salvage yard they blow like a hurricane.
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Bite your tounge guitarman... LOL Thems cuss words on these here boards... Hahaha!! WES www.ClassicHeartbeat.com


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Hey, if you're gonna yank from another vehicle, keep it in the family as much as possible!

Any particular reason for a Taurus? Or would, say, a fourth gen Camaro work just as well? I know those suckers have to have some nasty big fans...they depend quite dearly on them, thanks to having an LT1 and not having a grille...

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Yes, it's a single fan, and I mounted it into the original shroud, fits very well... I added an A/C condenser and trans cooler in front of the 4 row radiator, so I needed to pull more air at idle to maintain the temp... now I can sit in traffic with the A/C on, no worries... I can post pics of the finished product if you're interested.

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I have to agree w/ bigvinnie. I had a perma cool electric fan on my Jeep that has an LT-1 and a 4l60e trans. I added a toyo 4-runner radiatior since it was bigger than the factory Jeep one and the fan could not keep the thing from boiling over. The heavy duty black magic fans WORK! It solved the problem I was having and now water temp dont get above 200 degrees!

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I think I might go with a single perma cool 16" or 18" inch fan and see what happens.

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'63 Impala SS 283, 3-on-the tree, flowmaster 2 1/4" dual exhaust, performer intake, edelbrock 600 carb, chrome 15x8 rally's
'65 Impala SS, built 332, 700R4, 3.73, 2 1/2" mandral bent duals w/H pipe, Flowmaster 40-series deltaflows, MSD Mallory, too many modifications to list
'72 Chevy Suburban 4x4, NP205, TH350, balanced 357 (.040 350), 268 high energy cam, 9.2:1 comp, 1.94/1.50 heads (ENGINE BUILT BY THE GREAT RAYZOR or if you know him RAY, WHO POSTS ON THIS BOARD AND CHEVYTALK), 3/4 ton leaf springs, 4" lift, 35/12.5/16.5 Grabber MT's, Rancho shocks, Rancho dual steering stabalizer, American Eagle 143's 16.5x9.75 6 lug, 4.10's, 12 bolt rear limited slip, Dana 44 front limited slip. Carter 600, performer intake, headers and flowmaster exhaust system very soon.
'74 GMC 1500 Super Custom, Factory 3/4 ton springs, rebuilt 350/TH350, ceramic headers, 2 1/2" duals w/ H-Pipe, 40-series delta-flow Flowmasters, Gibson tips, 15x8 eagle alloy 058 wheels and 31/10.5/15 ProComp M/T's, Fey Outlaw 8" drop bumper. More mods soon...
'95 Impala SS Flowmaster cat-back, K&N, 285/40/17 Firehawks, Dark cherry metallic, 27,000 miles, extreamly fun vehicle
'95 Chevy K2500, ex-cab, long bed, 350, AT, Flowmaster cat-back, 265/75/16 Mud Kings, 16x7.5 Centerline HT cast
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'63 Impala SS 283, 3-on-the tree, flowmaster 2 1/4" dual exhaust, performer intake, edelbrock 600 carb, chrome 15x8 rally's
'65 Impala SS, built 332, 700R4, 3.73, 2 1/2" mandral bent duals w/H pipe, Flowmaster 40-series deltaflows, MSD Mallory, too many modifications to list
'72 Chevy Suburban 4x4, NP205, TH350, balanced 357 (.040 350), 268 high energy cam, 9.2:1 comp, 1.94/1.50 heads (ENGINE BUILT BY THE GREAT RAYZOR or if you know him RAY, WHO POSTS ON THIS BOARD AND CHEVYTALK), 3/4 ton leaf springs, 4" lift, 35/12.5/16.5 Grabber MT's, Rancho shocks, Rancho dual steering stabalizer, American Eagle 143's 16.5x9.75 6 lug, 4.10's, 12 bolt rear limited slip, Dana 44 front limited slip. Carter 600, performer intake, headers and flowmaster exhaust system very soon.
'74 GMC 1500 Super Custom, Factory 3/4 ton springs, built 400sb w/3947040 heads, 475 hp, 750 edelbrock, ceramic headers, TH350, B&M holeshot 2000, 2 1/2" duals w/ H-Pipe, 40-series delta-flow Flowmasters, Gibson tips, Fey Outlaw 8" drop bumper.
'95 Impala SS Flowmaster cat-back, K&N, 255/50/17 G-Force T/A, Dark cherry metallic, 27,000 miles, extreamly fun vehicle
'95 Chevy K2500, ex-cab, long bed, 350, AT, Flowmaster cat-back, 265/75/16 Mud Kings, 16x7.5 Centerline HT cast
wheels, Leer high rise canope, bed liner w/ mat, loaded.**FOR SALE**
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