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3100 special · 12-23-2005, 09:53 PM

OK folks, I need some help. The rims I have on the panel have locking nuts. I know I hung onto the key for years but, I’ll be danged if I can find it anywhere. I ended up pulling the whole front end today, tires and all for my new IFS but… I’ve gotta get those rims off so I can put them up for sale.

I tried taping an impact socket on...no bite. I even made a couple of tries clamping a set of vise grips on a tapping with a hammer…no good. I didn’t spend a whole lot of time on it because I wanted to get other things done today.

I’ll give anything a whirl short of applying a torch. Oh by the way, if the photo is not good enough, it's the type that the notches are down around the bottom edge, not the grooved top.

Thanks!

*screamin_c102* · 12-23-2005, 09:57 PM

Go to a tire shop, they usually have a tool for removing locking nuts.

3100 special · 12-23-2005, 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by screamin_c10

Go to a ttire shop, they usually have a tool for removing locking nuts.

I might have to. It'll be a pain in the rectum though...I'll have to load my whole front end up in the back of the truck!
It might come to that though..
Thanks!

bs25j · 12-24-2005, 01:24 AM

i work at a tire shop..but i cant tell what kind of lock it is from the pics..certain locks can be removed pretty easy by hammering an old junk key on to the lock and it will usually bite. but there are some that are a lot more difficult..

70short/step · 12-24-2005, 01:28 AM

I have used a socket before. One that almost fit over the lug but not quite. Beat it on with a BFH and that usally worked. Your local auto parts store should sell a lug nut splitter that might work depending on the rim. Also if you have a welder weld a big nut to the lug and then use that with an impact to remove. Good Luck!

veedublu · 12-24-2005, 01:48 AM

I would go with the socket idea... but DON'T use an impact socket, they are usually 6-point. You want a 12-point socket, hopefully 1/2" drive (that way you have a bigger hole to slide a punch through for getting the nut out of the socket once it's removed).

Good luck.

dwcsr · 12-24-2005, 02:15 AM

weld a nut on the lock and turn it off with a socket

bigbuc · 12-24-2005, 03:58 AM

look man all the big tool companies like MAC and snap-on sell a socet set just for removing stripped bolts and wheel locks get a set or even one that is the right size and i promise u wont be dissatisfied

3100 special · 12-24-2005, 11:16 AM

Thanks guys! I hunting for a tool truck today. Sounds like it might be the easiest idea.
Let ya know...

*FormerMember* · 12-26-2005, 10:39 AM

Can you get a nut splitter on there?

3100 special · 12-26-2005, 11:05 AM

Maybe. I don't have one so, it's hard to tell until I lay one on there. After pricing extractors this morning (roughly 70 bucks), I'm going to try the 12 point socket route.
I've got other things I'd rather spend my money on!

b454rat · 12-26-2005, 11:07 AM

LIke bigbuc said, there are tools out there JUST for removing lugnut locks. Buddy owns a junkyard, and he has a set of them, saves alot of time, and sometimes rims. If you get heat on them and aren't careful, just ruined a set of rims.....

*FormerMember* · 12-26-2005, 11:19 AM

Nut splitter should be cheaper.

Do you have a welder?

3100 special · 12-26-2005, 07:05 PM

Got the solution at HF today, just didn't get one big enough... today was not my day. 18 bucks for the set. I'll hang onto these, no telling when then might come in handy. I'll pick up the next size up.
Tomorrow's another day though!

3100 special · 12-29-2005, 08:51 PM

They're off! I found another set of nut extractors. The 3/4 fit it just right. A ratchet with a cheater pipe and no problems.
I had to buy a set of five to get the one I wanted...22 bucks.
Well spent though.

Thanks for all of the suggestions!

12-23-2005, 09:53 PM	#1
3100 special Street Rod Dreamin' Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Work:Batam, Indonesia/ Home:League City, Texas Posts: 1,243	Help! I haven't seen this question before... OK folks, I need some help. The rims I have on the panel have locking nuts. I know I hung onto the key for years but, I’ll be danged if I can find it anywhere. I ended up pulling the whole front end today, tires and all for my new IFS but… I’ve gotta get those rims off so I can put them up for sale. I tried taping an impact socket on...no bite. I even made a couple of tries clamping a set of vise grips on a tapping with a hammer…no good. I didn’t spend a whole lot of time on it because I wanted to get other things done today. I’ll give anything a whirl short of applying a torch. Oh by the way, if the photo is not good enough, it's the type that the notches are down around the bottom edge, not the grooved top. Thanks! Attached Images __________________ 1954 Chevy 3100 Panel Truck 2004 GMC Yukon 2007 GMC Sierra 4X4 "I am for doing good to the poor, but I differ in opinion of the means. I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it." Benjamin Franklin, On the Price of Corn and Management of the Poor, November 1776

12-23-2005, 09:57 PM	#2
screamin_c102 Account Suspended Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Yoncalla Oregon Posts: 775	Re: Help! I haven't seen this question before... Go to a tire shop, they usually have a tool for removing locking nuts. Last edited by screamin_c102; 12-23-2005 at 09:58 PM.

12-24-2005, 01:24 AM	#4
bs25j Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Washington Posts: 80	Re: Help! I haven't seen this question before... i work at a tire shop..but i cant tell what kind of lock it is from the pics..certain locks can be removed pretty easy by hammering an old junk key on to the lock and it will usually bite. but there are some that are a lot more difficult..

12-24-2005, 01:28 AM	#5
70short/step Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Stockton, CA Posts: 1,579	Re: Help! I haven't seen this question before... I have used a socket before. One that almost fit over the lug but not quite. Beat it on with a BFH and that usally worked. Your local auto parts store should sell a lug nut splitter that might work depending on the rim. Also if you have a welder weld a big nut to the lug and then use that with an impact to remove. Good Luck! __________________ For every person with a spark of genius, There are a hundred with ignition trouble. 70 Short/Step

12-24-2005, 01:48 AM	#6
veedublu Registered User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Colorado Springs Posts: 159	Re: Help! I haven't seen this question before... I would go with the socket idea... but DON'T use an impact socket, they are usually 6-point. You want a 12-point socket, hopefully 1/2" drive (that way you have a bigger hole to slide a punch through for getting the nut out of the socket once it's removed). Good luck. __________________ 1976 K20 my dad bought new - longbed stepside, just turned 50k miles

12-24-2005, 02:15 AM	#7
dwcsr Hollister Road Co. Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Houston Posts: 6,134	Re: Help! I haven't seen this question before... weld a nut on the lock and turn it off with a socket

12-24-2005, 03:58 AM	#8
bigbuc Certified Pud Puller Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: hollywood,MD Posts: 105	Re: Help! I haven't seen this question before... look man all the big tool companies like MAC and snap-on sell a socet set just for removing stripped bolts and wheel locks get a set or even one that is the right size and i promise u wont be dissatisfied __________________ 1997 Silverado extended cab- mpfi conversion, 22" kmc's 1983 C10- some assembly required 99.5 F250 Super Duty 7.3 5" straight pipe, wicked wheel, ts tuner, ccv mod, 4" lift 315/75/16s

12-24-2005, 11:16 AM	#9
3100 special Street Rod Dreamin' Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Work:Batam, Indonesia/ Home:League City, Texas Posts: 1,243	Re: Help! I haven't seen this question before... Thanks guys! I hunting for a tool truck today. Sounds like it might be the easiest idea. Let ya know... __________________ 1954 Chevy 3100 Panel Truck 2004 GMC Yukon 2007 GMC Sierra 4X4 "I am for doing good to the poor, but I differ in opinion of the means. I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it." Benjamin Franklin, On the Price of Corn and Management of the Poor, November 1776

12-26-2005, 10:39 AM	#10
FormerMember Account Suspended Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,051	Re: Help! I haven't seen this question before... Can you get a nut splitter on there?

12-26-2005, 11:05 AM	#11
3100 special Street Rod Dreamin' Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Work:Batam, Indonesia/ Home:League City, Texas Posts: 1,243	Re: Help! I haven't seen this question before... Maybe. I don't have one so, it's hard to tell until I lay one on there. After pricing extractors this morning (roughly 70 bucks), I'm going to try the 12 point socket route. I've got other things I'd rather spend my money on! __________________ 1954 Chevy 3100 Panel Truck 2004 GMC Yukon 2007 GMC Sierra 4X4 "I am for doing good to the poor, but I differ in opinion of the means. I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it." Benjamin Franklin, On the Price of Corn and Management of the Poor, November 1776

12-26-2005, 11:07 AM	#12
b454rat Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Binghamton, NY Posts: 3,461	Re: Help! I haven't seen this question before... LIke bigbuc said, there are tools out there JUST for removing lugnut locks. Buddy owns a junkyard, and he has a set of them, saves alot of time, and sometimes rims. If you get heat on them and aren't careful, just ruined a set of rims..... __________________ 2000 GMC CCSB 454/4L80 6” lift SAS 1999 Chevy CCSB 454/NV4500 6” lift 1999 GMC Yukon 350/4L60 4" SAS

12-26-2005, 11:19 AM	#13
FormerMember Account Suspended Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,051	Re: Help! I haven't seen this question before... Nut splitter should be cheaper. Do you have a welder?

12-26-2005, 07:05 PM	#14
3100 special Street Rod Dreamin' Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Work:Batam, Indonesia/ Home:League City, Texas Posts: 1,243	Re: Help! I haven't seen this question before... Got the solution at HF today, just didn't get one big enough... today was not my day. 18 bucks for the set. I'll hang onto these, no telling when then might come in handy. I'll pick up the next size up. Tomorrow's another day though! Attached Images __________________ 1954 Chevy 3100 Panel Truck 2004 GMC Yukon 2007 GMC Sierra 4X4 "I am for doing good to the poor, but I differ in opinion of the means. I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it." Benjamin Franklin, On the Price of Corn and Management of the Poor, November 1776 Last edited by 3100 special; 12-26-2005 at 07:06 PM.

12-29-2005, 08:51 PM	#15
3100 special Street Rod Dreamin' Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Work:Batam, Indonesia/ Home:League City, Texas Posts: 1,243	Re: Help! I haven't seen this question before... They're off! I found another set of nut extractors. The 3/4 fit it just right. A ratchet with a cheater pipe and no problems. I had to buy a set of five to get the one I wanted...22 bucks. Well spent though. Thanks for all of the suggestions! Attached Images __________________ 1954 Chevy 3100 Panel Truck 2004 GMC Yukon 2007 GMC Sierra 4X4 "I am for doing good to the poor, but I differ in opinion of the means. I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it." Benjamin Franklin, On the Price of Corn and Management of the Poor, November 1776



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