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LMN8UR · 01-21-2006, 08:05 PM

l replaced my starter with one from AutoZone (#DL3635S) yesterday. After starting her up there was a tinny ticking sound. I removed the flywheel cover and saw that the flywheel was very lightly making contact with roller on the starter shaft.

If the starter could go inward just slightly it would clear the flywheel. There are no bushings or shims installed, and the two bolts holding the starter in place offer no lateral adjustment.

Picture shows where flywheel is contacting starter.

Has anyone else experienced this? The truck was 28 years old when I bought her, only God knows if the flywheel and bell housing are original.

PLEASE HELP

cypress TX 72 · 01-21-2006, 08:19 PM

Can't you shim it downward so the flywheel doesn't contact it -(instead of inward)
Shimming those starters was not only common, but manditory- go back to auto-zone and look in the HELP section and find the "Starter Shims"
Unless I am misunderstanding what is happening, I think this will fix your problem.

**truckdude239** · 01-21-2006, 08:34 PM

pictures of the flywheel and bellhouse someone can tell you if they are original

LMN8UR · 01-21-2006, 08:35 PM

I understand what you are saying, but my starter mounts with two horizontal bolts into the bellhousing. If they were verticle your shims would work.

I could try loosening the bolts and try prying downward and see if there is any play. Hmmm. . . I'll go play.

Let me know if anyone else has any suggestions.

THANKS!

krue · 01-21-2006, 09:15 PM

Too late for my suggestion. If you have the original starter (or one that works anyways) when you replace it keep the nosecone and use it. Ask me how I learned that lesson.

cypress TX 72 · 01-21-2006, 09:18 PM

That starter above has vertical bolts

**kwmech** · 01-21-2006, 09:19 PM

There is always the chance that the crankshaft main bearing is worn and allowing the crankshaft to walk. I had this problem on a 400sb with a real heavy clutch.

LMN8UR · 01-21-2006, 10:21 PM

The picture I showed was just to show where the rub was, my starter is still mounted on the truck.

The crankshaft walking, I do have a minor rear leak, but no other indications are present. The engine was rebuilt 95K ago.

The starter was replaced and this problem occured only yesterday.

Does anyone think there would be a problem with that little bushing to clear the flywheel?
The bushing floats on the shaft and I suppose it's only purpose is to prevent the starter gear from extending out to far, am I right? ? ?

Thanks Again.

krue · 01-21-2006, 10:29 PM

Do you have any nose cones laying around to try out?

LMN8UR · 01-21-2006, 10:45 PM

No, no spare parts. . . The original or the one I took back to AZ nose was identicle to this one. I'm begining to think it's an AZ FUBAR.

jhow66 · 01-21-2006, 11:29 PM

That little ring is a retainer for a snap ring inside that fit in a groove in shaft. It is what keeps the armature from moving forward plus stopping the starter gear.

01-21-2006, 08:05 PM	#1
LMN8UR Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Midlothian, VA Posts: 148	Starter not fitting properly! l replaced my starter with one from AutoZone (#DL3635S) yesterday. After starting her up there was a tinny ticking sound. I removed the flywheel cover and saw that the flywheel was very lightly making contact with roller on the starter shaft. If the starter could go inward just slightly it would clear the flywheel. There are no bushings or shims installed, and the two bolts holding the starter in place offer no lateral adjustment. Picture shows where flywheel is contacting starter. Has anyone else experienced this? The truck was 28 years old when I bought her, only God knows if the flywheel and bell housing are original. PLEASE HELP __________________ 72 Chevy C-10 Custom LWB 383 Stroker - Edlebrock Air Gap intake and 670 CFM Holley Street Avenger carb. Hooker Comp Headers w/ X-Pipe and 2.25 duals TKO-500 & 3.08:1 rear I Love HEMI's, they're soft & chewy!

01-21-2006, 08:19 PM	#2
cypress TX 72 Saving one 72 at a time!! Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Cypress, TX Posts: 261	Re: Starter not fitting properly! Can't you shim it downward so the flywheel doesn't contact it -(instead of inward) Shimming those starters was not only common, but manditory- go back to auto-zone and look in the HELP section and find the "Starter Shims" Unless I am misunderstanding what is happening, I think this will fix your problem.

01-21-2006, 08:34 PM	#3
truckdude239 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Lewisville, Nc Posts: 10,233	Re: Starter not fitting properly! pictures of the flywheel and bellhouse someone can tell you if they are original __________________ David fuller Ase Certified Mechanic Click here to help support our board!! 1971 Chevy c-10 under going a 4.8l LSx swap Build Thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=421305 2007 Honda Accord my daily 145kmiles 2002 Honda Accord 4 door With 330k(sisters car) 2005 toyota Avalon 228k( brothers car) 2002 Sububran 5.3 245k 2000 Tahoe 5.3l 378 General manager for Marco's Carwash & lube

01-21-2006, 08:35 PM	#4
LMN8UR Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Midlothian, VA Posts: 148	Re: Starter not fitting properly! I understand what you are saying, but my starter mounts with two horizontal bolts into the bellhousing. If they were verticle your shims would work. I could try loosening the bolts and try prying downward and see if there is any play. Hmmm. . . I'll go play. Let me know if anyone else has any suggestions. THANKS! __________________ 72 Chevy C-10 Custom LWB 383 Stroker - Edlebrock Air Gap intake and 670 CFM Holley Street Avenger carb. Hooker Comp Headers w/ X-Pipe and 2.25 duals TKO-500 & 3.08:1 rear I Love HEMI's, they're soft & chewy!

01-21-2006, 09:15 PM	#5
krue Designated A-hole! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: South Mississippi Posts: 36,450	Re: Starter not fitting properly! Too late for my suggestion. If you have the original starter (or one that works anyways) when you replace it keep the nosecone and use it. Ask me how I learned that lesson. __________________ "If it ain't broke, fix it 'til it is!" Being stupid ain't illegal. We're Still Debt Free Except for the House!!! www.daveramsey.com 70 GMC SWB Stepside project "Green Booger" soon to be 6.0l/4l80e 93 S-10 "Poppaw's Truck"

01-21-2006, 09:18 PM	#6
cypress TX 72 Saving one 72 at a time!! Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Cypress, TX Posts: 261	Re: Starter not fitting properly! That starter above has vertical bolts

01-21-2006, 09:19 PM	#7
kwmech Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Colfax-California Posts: 8,503	Re: Starter not fitting properly! There is always the chance that the crankshaft main bearing is worn and allowing the crankshaft to walk. I had this problem on a 400sb with a real heavy clutch.

01-21-2006, 10:21 PM	#8
LMN8UR Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Midlothian, VA Posts: 148	Re: Starter not fitting properly! The picture I showed was just to show where the rub was, my starter is still mounted on the truck. The crankshaft walking, I do have a minor rear leak, but no other indications are present. The engine was rebuilt 95K ago. The starter was replaced and this problem occured only yesterday. Does anyone think there would be a problem with that little bushing to clear the flywheel? The bushing floats on the shaft and I suppose it's only purpose is to prevent the starter gear from extending out to far, am I right? ? ? Thanks Again. __________________ 72 Chevy C-10 Custom LWB 383 Stroker - Edlebrock Air Gap intake and 670 CFM Holley Street Avenger carb. Hooker Comp Headers w/ X-Pipe and 2.25 duals TKO-500 & 3.08:1 rear I Love HEMI's, they're soft & chewy!

01-21-2006, 10:29 PM	#9
krue Designated A-hole! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: South Mississippi Posts: 36,450	Re: Starter not fitting properly! Do you have any nose cones laying around to try out? __________________ "If it ain't broke, fix it 'til it is!" Being stupid ain't illegal. We're Still Debt Free Except for the House!!! www.daveramsey.com 70 GMC SWB Stepside project "Green Booger" soon to be 6.0l/4l80e 93 S-10 "Poppaw's Truck"

01-21-2006, 10:45 PM	#10
LMN8UR Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Midlothian, VA Posts: 148	Re: Starter not fitting properly! No, no spare parts. . . The original or the one I took back to AZ nose was identicle to this one. I'm begining to think it's an AZ FUBAR. __________________ 72 Chevy C-10 Custom LWB 383 Stroker - Edlebrock Air Gap intake and 670 CFM Holley Street Avenger carb. Hooker Comp Headers w/ X-Pipe and 2.25 duals TKO-500 & 3.08:1 rear I Love HEMI's, they're soft & chewy!

01-21-2006, 11:29 PM	#11
jhow66 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Knoxville Tenn. Posts: 3,058	Re: Starter not fitting properly! That little ring is a retainer for a snap ring inside that fit in a groove in shaft. It is what keeps the armature from moving forward plus stopping the starter gear. __________________ 56 Chevy Bel-Air 2dr. HT (purchased new) 71 Chevy Cheyenne SWB PU (502HO) 65 GMC short bed step--work in progress and my gofer



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