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72 Cheyenne402 · 01-23-2006, 02:58 PM

Does anybody know where I can get some good primer that will not rust. I have a compressor and can get a paint gun to spray it. I want to sand it down and primer it. Get it ready for body work and still be able to drive it on the weekend.

dallas71 · 01-23-2006, 03:21 PM

the only thing that i know not to rust is an epoxy primer which is a sealer....

thejoker · 01-23-2006, 03:35 PM

Check Eastwood out. I think that might be what you're looking for.

http://www.eastwood.com

JKR

67ChevyRedneck · 01-23-2006, 03:38 PM

Primer doesn't rust.... metal does

Sorry, couldn't resist.... I used a primer/sealer combo on my truck. Help up pretty good for 9 years....starting to look like crap though...

72 Cheyenne402 · 01-23-2006, 04:47 PM

Thanks guys

shifty · 01-23-2006, 05:53 PM

eastwood rust encapsulator. it even comes in rattle cans, no compressor needed. prep by removing the old rust and shoot it, i think. read the instructions. it's not a complicated process like some of the other crap out there.

if you're down to bare metal, i believe you can use a self etching primer, but you need to be careful of what you put over it i think because i'm not sure everything adheres to the top of the self etching primer (e.g.. bondo won't stick to it - this is just something to think about!!)

**Bob B.** · 01-23-2006, 07:25 PM

Zero-Rust is a good product. It comes in spray cans and gallons. The Zero-Rust people say that it can be top-coated with most auto paints.

JAKES 68GMC · 01-23-2006, 07:41 PM

Rustoleum is the basic good stuff. You can get it anywhere.

72-stomper · 01-23-2006, 09:15 PM

Make sure what ever you use is not UV sensetive....

kevs_c10 · 01-25-2006, 11:05 PM

Take a look at DP40 by PPG, it's an epoxy primer that sticks like mad. You shoot it over bare metal, then do your fillers putties and workable primer on top of it. There are several colors, the DP40 is a greenish grey, the new stuff is actually DP40LF (lead free), but the older leaded stuff is better if you can find it. DP40 doesn't use a isocyanate hardener so it's safer to shoot in your garage. http://www.ppg.com/refinishftpsite/docs/p-196.pdf

northcountry67 · 01-25-2006, 11:19 PM

Sherwin Williams has a new line of "shiny primer" that comes in eight different colors. It goes on like paint and has a gloss finish to it. I think it is a body man's dream because it is weather proof like paint and when it comes time to wet sand, you will not need painter's guide to show any low spots. Just look for any left over shine. This stuff is great. The different colors allow you to prime with the color closest to what you will spray as a base coat, requiring less base coat to cover. I've heard of resto guys spraying it on then pushing the project outside until they were ready to continue the job. I used it on my 67 and also found that it fills better than most.

72 Cheyenne402 · 01-25-2006, 11:21 PM

Great!! Sounds like something to look into

northcountry67 · 01-25-2006, 11:46 PM

Here are a couple photos of my cab with the shiny primer on. It is a little hard to tell that it is shiny because of the angle.

72 Cheyenne402 · 01-25-2006, 11:50 PM

Is the cost reasonable? The primer looks really good from what I can see

northcountry67 · 01-25-2006, 11:53 PM

Slightly higher than the run of the mill dull stuff, but you will save in base coat and guide and the price is the same for all eight colors.

**special-K** · 01-26-2006, 12:07 AM

That`s like DP40.Good as paint until you get`er done.

hifloweore · 01-26-2006, 12:28 AM

I bought a gallon of POR-15 to prime my frame and some suspension components. This paint is supposed to be the best thing since sliced bread, not so however. Everything was repainted with a paint called RUST KILL from a company called MAGIK. It has held up to the elements and shows no signs of rust after 3 years and still has semi gloss finish when its washed. This is a primer but can also be used as a topcoat according to the can. I carefully put it on with a brush but it can also be sprayed on.

72 Cheyenne402 · 01-26-2006, 09:50 AM

What colors can you get the Schirman Williams primer in?

**special-K** · 01-26-2006, 10:02 AM

I dunno,but you can tint primer.

72MARIO · 01-26-2006, 10:08 AM

I used the sherwin wiliams Medium red primer. It was basically the same colour as the base of torch red. Save alot of paint. But I also have over a $1000cdn in primer it this truck

72 Cheyenne402 · 01-26-2006, 01:44 PM

I'm going to check out their website and try and find some information

Bob D · 01-26-2006, 05:49 PM

The cold weather has forced me to work on my truck in the basement, so it is all rattle can and brush priming any parts small enough to fit down there. I have been using ZeroRust gray on the backside of fenders and the grill. The outside of bare metal fenders and doors will be rattlecan sprayed with Specialty Performance Products Etch Prime Gray which is made by PPG. Both products seem to go on well and have tons of solids. The radiator mount was primed with ZeroRust, and I am going to try to brush on POR15 Black Coat and see if I can get away with no brush marks

I usually wear a respirator and blow the stink out the basement door.

Bob

1BadSS · 01-29-2006, 03:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kevs_c10

Take a look at DP40 by PPG, it's an epoxy primer that sticks like mad. You shoot it over bare metal, then do your fillers putties and workable primer on top of it. There are several colors, the DP40 is a greenish grey, the new stuff is actually DP40LF (lead free), but the older leaded stuff is better if you can find it. DP40 doesn't use a isocyanate hardener so it's safer to shoot in your garage. http://www.ppg.com/refinishftpsite/docs/p-196.pdf

DP40LF Doesnt dry for a good week, its gummy.

Good thing about that is, that you can follow it up with some Utech or K36.

al's71gmc · 01-29-2006, 06:13 AM

Hey Northcountry- Is it Spectraprime/Spectraseal ? Here's a link. There are a lot of different products, but the Spectra was the only one I found that came in a variety of colors. The description didn't say it has a gloss finish.

http://www.sherwin-automotive.com/pr...at=8&group=Yes

01-23-2006, 02:58 PM	#1
72 Cheyenne402 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 581	Primer that will not rust?? Does anybody know where I can get some good primer that will not rust. I have a compressor and can get a paint gun to spray it. I want to sand it down and primer it. Get it ready for body work and still be able to drive it on the weekend.

01-23-2006, 03:21 PM	#2
dallas71 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Corinth,TX Posts: 444	Re: Primer that will not rust?? the only thing that i know not to rust is an epoxy primer which is a sealer.... __________________ My 1966 LWB Truck My 1966 SWB Truck

01-23-2006, 03:35 PM	#3
thejoker Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Gulfport Mississippi Posts: 364	Re: Primer that will not rust?? Check Eastwood out. I think that might be what you're looking for. http://www.eastwood.com JKR __________________ **Have you ever danced with the devil in the pale moonlight....I ask that of all my prey** 68' C10 Short Step (rebuilding as we speak) 72' Custom Camper (wrecked, parting out) 79' C10 Fleet (rough, parting out) 97' C1500 Short Step Custom (DD) 97' Kawaski VN800a Customized 99' Z71 Silverado 04' Suzuki Volusia

01-23-2006, 03:38 PM	#4
67ChevyRedneck Hittin E-Z Street on Mud Tires Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Greenville, SC Posts: 23,090	Re: Primer that will not rust?? Primer doesn't rust.... metal does Sorry, couldn't resist.... I used a primer/sealer combo on my truck. Help up pretty good for 9 years....starting to look like crap though... __________________ Jesse James 1967 C10 SWB Stepside: 350/700R4/3.73 1965 Ford Mustang: 289/T5-5spd/3.25 Trac-Loc 1968 Pontiac Firebird: Project Fire Chicken! 2015 Silverado Double Cab 5.3L Z71 2001 Jeep Wrangler Sport 4.0L 5spd 2020 Chevrolet Equinox Premium 2.0L Turbo 2011 Mustang V6 ~ Wife's ride American Born, Country by the Grace of God 1967 CST Shop Truck Rebuild! My 1967 C-10 Build Thread My Vintage Air A/C Install Project "On a Dime" Trying my hand at Home Renovation! 1965 Mustang Modifications!

01-23-2006, 04:47 PM	#5
72 Cheyenne402 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 581	Re: Primer that will not rust?? Thanks guys

01-23-2006, 05:53 PM	#6
shifty Questionable Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Atlanta Posts: 13,376	Re: Primer that will not rust?? eastwood rust encapsulator. it even comes in rattle cans, no compressor needed. prep by removing the old rust and shoot it, i think. read the instructions. it's not a complicated process like some of the other crap out there. if you're down to bare metal, i believe you can use a self etching primer, but you need to be careful of what you put over it i think because i'm not sure everything adheres to the top of the self etching primer (e.g.. bondo won't stick to it - this is just something to think about!!) __________________ If I've got anything up for grabs, it'll be here: 7-hole gauge cluster for a 67-72 p/u FREE (link) I can't check the forum daily. If I don't reply to you within 24 hours, drop me a PM! I'm (hopefully) still alive and will reply faster to a PM.

01-23-2006, 07:25 PM	#7
Bob B. Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,314	Re: Primer that will not rust?? Zero-Rust is a good product. It comes in spray cans and gallons. The Zero-Rust people say that it can be top-coated with most auto paints. __________________ 1967 GMC CM-2500 Camper Cruiser, 351E V-6, NP 435 4 speed, Dana 60, and factory A/C. 2012 GMC K-3500 WT regular cab, 6.0L Vortec, 6L90.

01-23-2006, 07:41 PM	#8
JAKES 68GMC Aluminum slot wheels rule... Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Maine Posts: 6,212	Re: Primer that will not rust?? Rustoleum is the basic good stuff. You can get it anywhere.

01-23-2006, 09:15 PM	#9
72-stomper Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: wisconsin Posts: 142	Re: Primer that will not rust?? Make sure what ever you use is not UV sensetive....

01-25-2006, 11:05 PM	#10
kevs_c10 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Spokane Washington Posts: 41	Re: Primer that will not rust?? Take a look at DP40 by PPG, it's an epoxy primer that sticks like mad. You shoot it over bare metal, then do your fillers putties and workable primer on top of it. There are several colors, the DP40 is a greenish grey, the new stuff is actually DP40LF (lead free), but the older leaded stuff is better if you can find it. DP40 doesn't use a isocyanate hardener so it's safer to shoot in your garage. http://www.ppg.com/refinishftpsite/docs/p-196.pdf __________________ 1970 C10 Short Fleetside

01-25-2006, 11:19 PM	#11
northcountry67 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Lengby, Minnesota Posts: 225	Re: Primer that will not rust?? Sherwin Williams has a new line of "shiny primer" that comes in eight different colors. It goes on like paint and has a gloss finish to it. I think it is a body man's dream because it is weather proof like paint and when it comes time to wet sand, you will not need painter's guide to show any low spots. Just look for any left over shine. This stuff is great. The different colors allow you to prime with the color closest to what you will spray as a base coat, requiring less base coat to cover. I've heard of resto guys spraying it on then pushing the project outside until they were ready to continue the job. I used it on my 67 and also found that it fills better than most.

01-25-2006, 11:21 PM	#12
72 Cheyenne402 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 581	Re: Primer that will not rust?? Great!! Sounds like something to look into

01-25-2006, 11:46 PM	#13
northcountry67 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Lengby, Minnesota Posts: 225	Re: Primer that will not rust?? Here are a couple photos of my cab with the shiny primer on. It is a little hard to tell that it is shiny because of the angle.

01-25-2006, 11:50 PM	#14
72 Cheyenne402 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 581	Re: Primer that will not rust?? Is the cost reasonable? The primer looks really good from what I can see

01-25-2006, 11:53 PM	#15
northcountry67 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Lengby, Minnesota Posts: 225	Re: Primer that will not rust?? Slightly higher than the run of the mill dull stuff, but you will save in base coat and guide and the price is the same for all eight colors.



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01-26-2006, 12:07 AM	#16
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hifloweore Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Waynesboro, VA Posts: 11	Re: Primer that will not rust?? I bought a gallon of POR-15 to prime my frame and some suspension components. This paint is supposed to be the best thing since sliced bread, not so however. Everything was repainted with a paint called RUST KILL from a company called MAGIK. It has held up to the elements and shows no signs of rust after 3 years and still has semi gloss finish when its washed. This is a primer but can also be used as a topcoat according to the can. I carefully put it on with a brush but it can also be sprayed on.

01-26-2006, 09:50 AM	#18
72 Cheyenne402 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 581	Re: Primer that will not rust?? What colors can you get the Schirman Williams primer in?

01-26-2006, 10:02 AM	#19
special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,862	Re: Primer that will not rust?? I dunno,but you can tint primer. __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~

01-26-2006, 10:08 AM	#20
72MARIO Registered User Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Huntsville Ontario Canada Posts: 4,052	Re: Primer that will not rust?? I used the sherwin wiliams Medium red primer. It was basically the same colour as the base of torch red. Save alot of paint. But I also have over a $1000cdn in primer it this truck __________________ 1968 Suburban numbers matching all original truck now equipped with 6.0/4L80 on Accuair http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=625017 1967 C/20 6.0/4L80 Roofing Truck 1990 V2500 Suburban "Plow Truck" 2005 TAHOE DD

01-26-2006, 01:44 PM	#21
72 Cheyenne402 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 581	Re: Primer that will not rust?? I'm going to check out their website and try and find some information

01-26-2006, 05:49 PM	#22
Bob D Rolled on Paint Club Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Windham, CT. Posts: 232	Re: Primer that will not rust?? The cold weather has forced me to work on my truck in the basement, so it is all rattle can and brush priming any parts small enough to fit down there. I have been using ZeroRust gray on the backside of fenders and the grill. The outside of bare metal fenders and doors will be rattlecan sprayed with Specialty Performance Products Etch Prime Gray which is made by PPG. Both products seem to go on well and have tons of solids. The radiator mount was primed with ZeroRust, and I am going to try to brush on POR15 Black Coat and see if I can get away with no brush marks I usually wear a respirator and blow the stink out the basement door. Bob Attached Images

01-29-2006, 06:13 AM	#24
al's71gmc 4 eyed fever Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Eureka, Nevada Posts: 500	Re: Primer that will not rust?? Hey Northcountry- Is it Spectraprime/Spectraseal ? Here's a link. There are a lot of different products, but the Spectra was the only one I found that came in a variety of colors. The description didn't say it has a gloss finish. http://www.sherwin-automotive.com/pr...at=8&group=Yes __________________ 1971 GMC 2500 4x4 1972 GMC Sierra Grande 1/2 t 4x4-#1 son's truck. Recently completed resto. 4 YO daughter," Daddy, I like your truck better than Mom's." (2000 F350-ranch truck) Smart kid!!

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