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MISTERSHOTGUN · 03-02-2006, 08:52 PM

Does Anyone Know If The 18 Circuit Painless Wiring Harness That Costs 309.00 Comes With The Plug That Plugs Into The Ignition Switch. The Picture On The Website Only Shows A Generic Photo Of A Harness. The Plastic Behind My Ignition Switch Id Melted So I Need Another One. Someone Told Me That This Harness Might Be A Wire In. But I Hope Someone Has One And Can Tell Me Does It Just Plug Into The Ignition Switch Or What.
Please Help
Thanks
Gary Day

matthufham · 03-02-2006, 08:54 PM

probably not, a new plug is less than 20 bucks, switch is about 20, and the rest is cheap, but if you buy all the necessary parts, expect to spend over 50 bucks. more like 75 if you're not getting the good deals.

MISTERSHOTGUN · 03-02-2006, 09:05 PM

where do i get the plug. i have been looking everywhere. my local parts store told me that they don't have it. do you have a link or part number?

Jayss109 · 03-02-2006, 09:34 PM

yes it comes with one, got mine from Summit, 18 circuit for our trucks

Has all connectors, IIRC the only ones you have to attach are the headlight ones. Has provisions for 2 or 4 headlight setups

Jason
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MISTERSHOTGUN · 03-02-2006, 09:38 PM

Thank You Very Much .. I Love This Site

matthufham · 03-02-2006, 09:52 PM

brothers.
http://brothersonlinestore.com/prodi...number=SWI72PL

Quote:

$18.95
Complete plug with 6" of lead wires, for the original 67-72 ignition switch. All colors match the original in placement and size.

Rollie396 · 03-02-2006, 11:48 PM

all connections but the cresent shaped one on the steering column.

Jayss109 · 03-03-2006, 01:58 AM

I must of got lucky, mine came with the crescent connector... hmmm I dunno

J
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Rollie396 · 03-03-2006, 09:26 AM

Really?Mine didn't.Hmmmmm wanna trade?

sleepyboy · 03-03-2006, 10:33 AM

It does come with it; just finished mine.

71chevytruckguy · 03-03-2006, 05:28 PM

mine didn't come with one either. chris.

MISTERSHOTGUN · 03-04-2006, 04:25 PM

ok.. here is a good question then. of those of you who had one come with it, where did you get yours. the others that didn't have one come with it. where did you get yours? I wanna get mine in the same place that you got it if it came with it.

Jayss109 · 03-04-2006, 05:10 PM

Got mine from summit. Painless Part # 10206 Summit # PRF10206

Mine came with both connectors for the steering column. The NON-halfmoon was installed on the wires, so follow the directions carefully to remove it and install the halfmoon one. Not hard, but can screw up the wire ends if your not careful.

And keep track of which wire goes where. Their directions are very complete. Just take your time and lay everything out and plan it well. once everythings mocked in, start tie wrapping, wire looming whatever yyou preffer. Keep yourself to a 3 beer minimun as well!

Have fun

Jason
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Honda civic (sixth generation)

MISTERSHOTGUN · 03-04-2006, 05:15 PM

i'm buying from summit then today. thanks.
3.5 beers

jugernot · 03-04-2006, 05:27 PM

Those of you that have it and istalled it can you show pics of it on the firewall? What type of hole did you make for the wires to go through to the engine bay?

Jayss109 · 03-04-2006, 05:30 PM

Comes with a template to enlarge the Stock hole in the firewall. Engine bay section fits in the hole and connection is made there with a bolt to the fuse panel. Hardest part is getting a tool in there to make the hole bigger. I'll try to get some pics later today... Gotta go down and try on my new wheels and check for backspacing! Woohoo... damn only have 1 beer...and its not cold.. DOH

J
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jugernot · 03-04-2006, 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jayss109

Comes with a template to enlarge the Stock hole in the firewall. Engine bay section fits in the hole and connection is made there with a bolt to the fuse panel. Hardest part is getting a tool in there to make the hole bigger. I'll try to get some pics later today... Gotta go down and try on my new wheels and check for backspacing! Woohoo... damn only have 1 beer...and its not cold.. DOH

J

Thanks, pics would be great. As for the beer, well with the weather we have been having, in the bay area lately, leave it outside for 5 minute and it will probably be frozen.....

**FRENCHBLUE72** · 03-04-2006, 05:55 PM

My summit kit painless kit came with the half moon..

Jayss109 · 03-04-2006, 08:41 PM

Heres a couple I snapped. Man, sure looks dirtier when its closeup like that ...

Oh crap, files too big, heres a link instead

Jason

http://web.mac.com/jason_hall/iWeb/S...20harness.html
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muddpile · 03-05-2006, 01:27 AM

So the painless kit comes with all the plugs you need to install it? I didn't know that. I've been trying to decide what harness to buy (my original is toast), and this sounds like a good idea. The only problem is I'm not running the stock gauges, radio, HEI, electric choke, washer pump, van tilt, etc. Would a guy like me be better off with a generic hotrod harness or the painless unit? (Sorry for the thread hijack).

Jayss109 · 03-05-2006, 01:40 AM

Mudd... I wasnt running ANY gauges when I started. This Kit has provisions for electric gauges and idiot lights too. Now I have all autometer gauges, msd ignition. Only thing I had to add was the Big power wire to the MSD box, everythign else is there. I think half the stuff with the kit, i didnt use...elec fans, power windows, EXTRA long fuel level sender wire (for under bed tanks), Heater or AC stuff, and who knows what else. You can go for the smaller setup, non 18 circuit one if you dont need all the bells and whistles. I just went for it because I know I'll need/want it in the future. Just insualted them and tied them up for later use.
I think its a good buy and good product... saved alot of headaches when mine melted down under the dash. Like I said before, just take your time, and double check everything.

Jason
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Charger (1999 Concept)

jugernot · 03-05-2006, 03:14 AM

Jason.....

How many of the original wire hole on the fire wall did you end up using? I an going to have my fire wall smooth and close up the used holes.

Jayss109 · 03-05-2006, 12:23 PM

IIRC Im using the "oil pressure hole" above for my vaccum line and something else for the wiring. In my picture you can see Im using the speedo hole as well, but thats add on stuff, not from the painless kit, so could be routed a better way(got lazy on that one). I would keep the "oil pressure hole" and the "wiring hole" above it. Or one of them atleast. Would suck to smooth it all out, then find out you need a hole for something! Find some plugs for future use. IMHO

Jason
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Vapir vaporizer

muddpile · 03-05-2006, 12:34 PM

That looks like a way nicer harness than the one I was going to use:
http://www.itsasnapwireandcable.com/new_page_6.htm
It's more than twice the price, but it looks like it comes with all the connectors I'd need, plus its specifically designed for the job, and not just some generic streetrod harness like the "It's a Snap" one.

68 short step · 03-05-2006, 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by muddpile

That looks like a way nicer harness than the one I was going to use:
http://www.itsasnapwireandcable.com/new_page_6.htm
It's more than twice the price, but it looks like it comes with all the connectors I'd need, plus its specifically designed for the job, and not just some generic streetrod harness like the "It's a Snap" one.

its a snap is harder to troubleshoot then painless...... painless is a bulkhead type connection going into the firewall and IAS is a bundle of wires going through a grommet..... one would have to remove every wire under the hood to pull cab off..... or couldnt isolate the problem to under the hood wireing or inside cab wiring.....or?????????
thats why ill probley go with painless.

03-02-2006, 08:52 PM	#1
MISTERSHOTGUN Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 95	18 Circuit Painless Wiring Question Does Anyone Know If The 18 Circuit Painless Wiring Harness That Costs 309.00 Comes With The Plug That Plugs Into The Ignition Switch. The Picture On The Website Only Shows A Generic Photo Of A Harness. The Plastic Behind My Ignition Switch Id Melted So I Need Another One. Someone Told Me That This Harness Might Be A Wire In. But I Hope Someone Has One And Can Tell Me Does It Just Plug Into The Ignition Switch Or What. Please Help Thanks Gary Day

03-02-2006, 08:54 PM	#2
matthufham Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Carl Junction, Missouri Posts: 2,061	Re: 18 Circuit Painless Wiring Question probably not, a new plug is less than 20 bucks, switch is about 20, and the rest is cheap, but if you buy all the necessary parts, expect to spend over 50 bucks. more like 75 if you're not getting the good deals. Last edited by matthufham; 03-02-2006 at 08:55 PM.

03-02-2006, 09:05 PM	#3
MISTERSHOTGUN Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 95	Re: 18 Circuit Painless Wiring Question where do i get the plug. i have been looking everywhere. my local parts store told me that they don't have it. do you have a link or part number?

03-02-2006, 09:34 PM	#4
Jayss109 Active Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 235	Re: 18 Circuit Painless Wiring Question yes it comes with one, got mine from Summit, 18 circuit for our trucks Has all connectors, IIRC the only ones you have to attach are the headlight ones. Has provisions for 2 or 4 headlight setups Jason ________ Cbr400 Last edited by Jayss109; 04-27-2011 at 11:34 PM.

03-02-2006, 09:38 PM	#5
MISTERSHOTGUN Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 95	Re: 18 Circuit Painless Wiring Question Thank You Very Much .. I Love This Site

03-02-2006, 11:48 PM	#7
Rollie396 someday it will be done! Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Lloydminster,AB. Canada Posts: 1,620	Re: 18 Circuit Painless Wiring Question all connections but the cresent shaped one on the steering column. __________________ '72 C-10 Proud owner of a million new and used pieces that used to be and will once again be(god willing) a testament to the term "they don't build em like that anymore. '80 LWB 2wd beater '67 GMC long fleet (cab donor) '66 long step (parked till it's turn comes around) '65 short step (parts truck that will donate it's bed and possibly frame to the '66) '06 Grand Prix wife's car (she hardly lets me touch it) my pics

03-03-2006, 01:58 AM	#8
Jayss109 Active Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 235	Re: 18 Circuit Painless Wiring Question I must of got lucky, mine came with the crescent connector... hmmm I dunno J ________ N02 VAPORIZER Last edited by Jayss109; 04-27-2011 at 11:34 PM.

03-03-2006, 09:26 AM	#9
Rollie396 someday it will be done! Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Lloydminster,AB. Canada Posts: 1,620	Re: 18 Circuit Painless Wiring Question Really?Mine didn't.Hmmmmm wanna trade? __________________ '72 C-10 Proud owner of a million new and used pieces that used to be and will once again be(god willing) a testament to the term "they don't build em like that anymore. '80 LWB 2wd beater '67 GMC long fleet (cab donor) '66 long step (parked till it's turn comes around) '65 short step (parts truck that will donate it's bed and possibly frame to the '66) '06 Grand Prix wife's car (she hardly lets me touch it) my pics

03-03-2006, 10:33 AM	#10
sleepyboy '69 Step Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Marion, Texas Posts: 722	Re: 18 Circuit Painless Wiring Question It does come with it; just finished mine.

03-03-2006, 05:28 PM	#11
71chevytruckguy Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Kernersville, NC Posts: 599	Re: 18 Circuit Painless Wiring Question mine didn't come with one either. chris. __________________ its a work in progess. 71 c-10 lwb, in the middle of frame off restoration. 69 c-10 swb, drag truck, 406 sbc, balanced, comp 292 cam, ported, polished, gasket matched, and bowl blended pro comp 210cc heads, 2.02/1.60 ferrea valves,1.6 roller rockers, re curved hei with msd 6al box, 2-step rev limter, accel 300+ wires, ported victor jr intake, holley 750 double pumper carb, dynomax 1 5/8 headers, 4 spd munci m-20 with super case and iron midplate, mr. gasket vertigate shifter, 5.38 pro gears with full spool, 33 spline moser axles and c-clip elimators, line-loc, 5 gal fuel cell, holley blue pump. 7.807 @ 88.37mph 1.60 60FT 80 g-20 van, tow rig, cammed 305, th350, 10 bolt 88 jeep wrangler, dd, 258, ax-15 swap, 4.5" lift, 33x12.50's, lockers, 3.55's

03-04-2006, 04:25 PM	#12
MISTERSHOTGUN Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 95	Re: 18 Circuit Painless Wiring Question ok.. here is a good question then. of those of you who had one come with it, where did you get yours. the others that didn't have one come with it. where did you get yours? I wanna get mine in the same place that you got it if it came with it.

03-04-2006, 05:10 PM	#13
Jayss109 Active Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 235	Re: 18 Circuit Painless Wiring Question Got mine from summit. Painless Part # 10206 Summit # PRF10206 Mine came with both connectors for the steering column. The NON-halfmoon was installed on the wires, so follow the directions carefully to remove it and install the halfmoon one. Not hard, but can screw up the wire ends if your not careful. And keep track of which wire goes where. Their directions are very complete. Just take your time and lay everything out and plan it well. once everythings mocked in, start tie wrapping, wire looming whatever yyou preffer. Keep yourself to a 3 beer minimun as well! Have fun Jason ________ Honda civic (sixth generation) Last edited by Jayss109; 04-27-2011 at 11:34 PM.

03-04-2006, 05:15 PM	#14
MISTERSHOTGUN Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 95	Re: 18 Circuit Painless Wiring Question i'm buying from summit then today. thanks. 3.5 beers

03-04-2006, 05:27 PM	#15
jugernot Life, Be In It..... Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Novato, California Posts: 1,498	Re: 18 Circuit Painless Wiring Question Those of you that have it and istalled it can you show pics of it on the firewall? What type of hole did you make for the wires to go through to the engine bay? __________________ Project Name: LEMON DROP. Reconstruction started "December 2000". Projected completion date "Who knows" http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=200082

03-04-2006, 05:30 PM	#16
Jayss109 Active Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 235	Re: 18 Circuit Painless Wiring Question Comes with a template to enlarge the Stock hole in the firewall. Engine bay section fits in the hole and connection is made there with a bolt to the fuse panel. Hardest part is getting a tool in there to make the hole bigger. I'll try to get some pics later today... Gotta go down and try on my new wheels and check for backspacing! Woohoo... damn only have 1 beer...and its not cold.. DOH J ________ Ship sale Last edited by Jayss109; 04-27-2011 at 11:35 PM.



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03-04-2006, 05:55 PM	#18
FRENCHBLUE72 PROJECT 7DEUCE Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: GRANTS PASS OR Posts: 21,600	Re: 18 Circuit Painless Wiring Question My summit kit painless kit came with the half moon.. __________________ GO BIG GREEN GO DUCKS MEMBER #6377 72 k-5 daily driver 6'' lift 35'' 350-350-205 slowly getting rust free. Project "7DEUCE" check out my build http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=267665 Tim Powell..R.I.P EastSideLowlife..... R.I.P..

03-04-2006, 08:41 PM	#19
Jayss109 Active Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 235	Re: 18 Circuit Painless Wiring Question Heres a couple I snapped. Man, sure looks dirtier when its closeup like that ... Oh crap, files too big, heres a link instead Jason http://web.mac.com/jason_hall/iWeb/S...20harness.html ________ AVANDIA LAWSUITS Last edited by Jayss109; 04-27-2011 at 11:35 PM.

03-05-2006, 01:27 AM	#20
muddpile Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Saskatchewan, Canada Posts: 1,371	Re: 18 Circuit Painless Wiring Question So the painless kit comes with all the plugs you need to install it? I didn't know that. I've been trying to decide what harness to buy (my original is toast), and this sounds like a good idea. The only problem is I'm not running the stock gauges, radio, HEI, electric choke, washer pump, van tilt, etc. Would a guy like me be better off with a generic hotrod harness or the painless unit? (Sorry for the thread hijack). __________________ 1964 Chevy Short Fleet: Tornado 1972 Chevy C10: Fast Orange Secondaries Wide Open

03-05-2006, 01:40 AM	#21
Jayss109 Active Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 235	Re: 18 Circuit Painless Wiring Question Mudd... I wasnt running ANY gauges when I started. This Kit has provisions for electric gauges and idiot lights too. Now I have all autometer gauges, msd ignition. Only thing I had to add was the Big power wire to the MSD box, everythign else is there. I think half the stuff with the kit, i didnt use...elec fans, power windows, EXTRA long fuel level sender wire (for under bed tanks), Heater or AC stuff, and who knows what else. You can go for the smaller setup, non 18 circuit one if you dont need all the bells and whistles. I just went for it because I know I'll need/want it in the future. Just insualted them and tied them up for later use. I think its a good buy and good product... saved alot of headaches when mine melted down under the dash. Like I said before, just take your time, and double check everything. Jason ________ Charger (1999 Concept) Last edited by Jayss109; 04-27-2011 at 11:35 PM.

03-05-2006, 03:14 AM	#22
jugernot Life, Be In It..... Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Novato, California Posts: 1,498	Re: 18 Circuit Painless Wiring Question Jason..... How many of the original wire hole on the fire wall did you end up using? I an going to have my fire wall smooth and close up the used holes. Attached Images __________________ Project Name: LEMON DROP. Reconstruction started "December 2000". Projected completion date "Who knows" http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=200082 Last edited by jugernot; 03-05-2006 at 03:16 AM.

03-05-2006, 12:23 PM	#23
Jayss109 Active Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 235	Re: 18 Circuit Painless Wiring Question IIRC Im using the "oil pressure hole" above for my vaccum line and something else for the wiring. In my picture you can see Im using the speedo hole as well, but thats add on stuff, not from the painless kit, so could be routed a better way(got lazy on that one). I would keep the "oil pressure hole" and the "wiring hole" above it. Or one of them atleast. Would suck to smooth it all out, then find out you need a hole for something! Find some plugs for future use. IMHO Jason ________ Vapir vaporizer Last edited by Jayss109; 04-27-2011 at 11:35 PM.

03-05-2006, 12:34 PM	#24
muddpile Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Saskatchewan, Canada Posts: 1,371	Re: 18 Circuit Painless Wiring Question That looks like a way nicer harness than the one I was going to use: http://www.itsasnapwireandcable.com/new_page_6.htm It's more than twice the price, but it looks like it comes with all the connectors I'd need, plus its specifically designed for the job, and not just some generic streetrod harness like the "It's a Snap" one. __________________ 1964 Chevy Short Fleet: Tornado 1972 Chevy C10: Fast Orange Secondaries Wide Open

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