Think I screwed up.... Floor Welding - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

muddpile · 03-11-2006, 12:46 AM

I got looking at my floor pan patch tonight, and it looks like I may have screwed up and welded it too far away from the rocker. Now that I look at it, it looks like that dished in piece is actually supposed to sort of go under the rocker. I assume I would have to remove the old rocker to properly install a floor pan patch for when I do the next side? How would I solve this problem? Cut it lengthwise then weld a strip in?

I may be worrying over nothing, I'm not really sure. I checked with the old carpet trim, and it will still cover, but barely. I assume this is more than just a visual problem though.

Anyone have any suggestions as to what I should do? Thanks!

northcountry67 · 03-11-2006, 01:09 AM

It looks like you will have to make a cut and weld in a filler patch. On the other side, do the rocker first with the inner rocker in place. The great thing about metal is that no mistake can't be undone. It looks like the flat piece going up and down should be flat againt the inner rocker. Nice welding though.

4x4Poet · 03-11-2006, 05:00 AM

The dished in or stepped down edge goes under the kick panel. You literally shove it under the kick panel and align the lines of the floor back from there. I'd cut out the whole floor patch and use another patch panel, but I'm no expert.

Certainly one could weld in a strip to move the floor outer edge farther outboard. I don't think you have to remove the rocker so long as you can slip the floor stepped down shelf under the rocker. I drilled holes in the rocker to fillet weld the rocker to the floor patch step. The factory spot welded the rocker to the floor step. The sill plate screws into the top of the floor above the step, not the lower step as pictured.

I don't have a digicam. Could someone post some pics of the proper fit of floor to kick panel and rocker? TIA.

68 50th · 03-11-2006, 07:33 AM

On my truck which appears to not have had any rust repairs done to it the distance from top edge of rocker to the step (vertical part) of the floor is 12-13 millimeters or a half inch.
Hope this helps, do you need any more pics, just let me know.

Drivers side:

68 50th · 03-11-2006, 07:35 AM

Passengers side:

muddpile · 03-11-2006, 04:08 PM

I think I'm going to attempt cutting it and widening it. If it doesn't work out I'll just remove the whole mess and start over with a new patch panel, they aren't too much money, and I'll just tack it then decide, so cutting won't be so hard. Thanks for the help and the pictures!

muddpile · 03-12-2006, 01:10 AM

I cut it today and widened it 1 3/8", and now it all fits perfect! The welds are good and strong, so I'm going to use it. Thanks for the help everyone. Tomorrow I weld in the rear piece and then on to the passenger side.

**FleetsidePaul** · 03-12-2006, 01:27 AM

Glad you got it straightened out.. Got any pic's of your fix ??

muddpile · 03-12-2006, 02:43 PM

I should have pics by tonight or later this afternoon.

03-11-2006, 12:46 AM	#1
muddpile Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Saskatchewan, Canada Posts: 1,371	Think I screwed up.... Floor Welding I got looking at my floor pan patch tonight, and it looks like I may have screwed up and welded it too far away from the rocker. Now that I look at it, it looks like that dished in piece is actually supposed to sort of go under the rocker. I assume I would have to remove the old rocker to properly install a floor pan patch for when I do the next side? How would I solve this problem? Cut it lengthwise then weld a strip in? I may be worrying over nothing, I'm not really sure. I checked with the old carpet trim, and it will still cover, but barely. I assume this is more than just a visual problem though. Anyone have any suggestions as to what I should do? Thanks! __________________ 1964 Chevy Short Fleet: Tornado 1972 Chevy C10: Fast Orange Secondaries Wide Open

03-11-2006, 01:09 AM	#2
northcountry67 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Lengby, Minnesota Posts: 225	Re: Think I screwed up.... Floor Welding It looks like you will have to make a cut and weld in a filler patch. On the other side, do the rocker first with the inner rocker in place. The great thing about metal is that no mistake can't be undone. It looks like the flat piece going up and down should be flat againt the inner rocker. Nice welding though.

03-11-2006, 05:00 AM	#3
4x4Poet Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: "Under Montana skies." Posts: 1,836	The dished in or stepped down edge goes under the kick panel. You literally shove it under the kick panel and align the lines of the floor back from there. I'd cut out the whole floor patch and use another patch panel, but I'm no expert. Certainly one could weld in a strip to move the floor outer edge farther outboard. I don't think you have to remove the rocker so long as you can slip the floor stepped down shelf under the rocker. I drilled holes in the rocker to fillet weld the rocker to the floor patch step. The factory spot welded the rocker to the floor step. The sill plate screws into the top of the floor above the step, not the lower step as pictured. I don't have a digicam. Could someone post some pics of the proper fit of floor to kick panel and rocker? TIA. __________________ '71 GMC K20 Suburban, '71 GMC K10 Suburban, '72 Chevy C10 CST Suburban, '72 Chevy K20 clunker pickup. Last edited by 4x4Poet; 03-11-2006 at 05:04 AM.

03-11-2006, 07:33 AM	#4
68 50th Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 833	Re: Think I screwed up.... Floor Welding On my truck which appears to not have had any rust repairs done to it the distance from top edge of rocker to the step (vertical part) of the floor is 12-13 millimeters or a half inch. Hope this helps, do you need any more pics, just let me know. Drivers side: Attached Images __________________ Mats.. ---------------------------------------------------- 1971 Cheyenne Super Custom Camper 475CBB/TH400/AC 1992 Silverado Sport Truck 1988 Silverado 2500 Ext Longbed 4x4 2001 GMC Sierra SLT 4x4 1990 Chevrolet K3500 1965 Pontiac Grand Prix 1980 Z 28 350/4-speed/AC/T-top 1980 Camaro Coupe V6/3-speed 1979 Buick Century Wagon

03-11-2006, 07:35 AM	#5
68 50th Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 833	Re: Think I screwed up.... Floor Welding Passengers side: Attached Images __________________ Mats.. ---------------------------------------------------- 1971 Cheyenne Super Custom Camper 475CBB/TH400/AC 1992 Silverado Sport Truck 1988 Silverado 2500 Ext Longbed 4x4 2001 GMC Sierra SLT 4x4 1990 Chevrolet K3500 1965 Pontiac Grand Prix 1980 Z 28 350/4-speed/AC/T-top 1980 Camaro Coupe V6/3-speed 1979 Buick Century Wagon

03-11-2006, 04:08 PM	#6
muddpile Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Saskatchewan, Canada Posts: 1,371	Re: Think I screwed up.... Floor Welding I think I'm going to attempt cutting it and widening it. If it doesn't work out I'll just remove the whole mess and start over with a new patch panel, they aren't too much money, and I'll just tack it then decide, so cutting won't be so hard. Thanks for the help and the pictures! __________________ 1964 Chevy Short Fleet: Tornado 1972 Chevy C10: Fast Orange Secondaries Wide Open

03-12-2006, 01:10 AM	#7
muddpile Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Saskatchewan, Canada Posts: 1,371	Re: Think I screwed up.... Floor Welding I cut it today and widened it 1 3/8", and now it all fits perfect! The welds are good and strong, so I'm going to use it. Thanks for the help everyone. Tomorrow I weld in the rear piece and then on to the passenger side. __________________ 1964 Chevy Short Fleet: Tornado 1972 Chevy C10: Fast Orange Secondaries Wide Open

03-12-2006, 01:27 AM	#8
FleetsidePaul R.I.P. E.S.L.L. Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Kernville CA./ Lake Isabella CA. Posts: 11,419	Re: Think I screwed up.... Floor Welding Glad you got it straightened out.. Got any pic's of your fix ?? __________________ 1971 Custom C/20 1970 CST 20 1970 C/30 Flatbed 1983 C/30 Dually 2015 Corvette Z51 2021 Corvette Z51 1991 Cadillac Hearse 1982 Cadillac Eldorado Biarritz 2000 Porsche Boxster S 2020 Jeep Gladiator 1973 VW Thing 1973 Plymouth Satellite wagon 1963 Baja Bug 1959 Bug Dune Buggy 1970 Baja Bug 1987 Jaguar XJ 350. R.I.P. El Jay R.I.P Jessie. R.I.P Grumpy. Every day is a gift from God.

03-12-2006, 02:43 PM	#9
muddpile Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Saskatchewan, Canada Posts: 1,371	Re: Think I screwed up.... Floor Welding I should have pics by tonight or later this afternoon. __________________ 1964 Chevy Short Fleet: Tornado 1972 Chevy C10: Fast Orange Secondaries Wide Open



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