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Dropt72Shortbed · 10-02-2002, 07:53 PM

ive just completed buying my whole system.

bags
air lift gen 2, 2b7s for front and 2b6ext for rear -- $250 shipped (airlift had buy 3 get 4 deal last week, so really $320 shipped)
brackets
front alter images brackets -- $80 shipped
rear brackets -- no need on trailing arm rears
tank and valves
8(for 4 way FBSS control) x 10mm 3/8" smcs -- $175 used from my friend(around $280 new)
air lift 5 gallon 8x1/2" ported tank -- $75 shipped.
compressor
1 x VIAIR450 100% duty - $230
line fittings etc
75ft of 1/2" line -- $60
all fittings + hardware (not cheapo hardware store stuff) and 150psi pressure switch -- $200.
2 x dual needle guages with line -- $85
Total -- $1150 for w/ buyin specials and valves used. woulda been $1330 without deals.

you can put a kit together for less, smaller valves, only 4 valves for a crappy 2 way sistem, no guages, crappy small slow 25% duty compressor, only 3/8" line and 1/4" valves. you could probably save $325 going this route but for $325 why skimp?

only last thing i need is a switch box or rocker switches, not very expensive like $25-30 and about 3 months of my time to install this (dont get to work much while in college) things i did not include that you will need (i left these out cause some people already have these, i had a few already.)

c-notch -- bolt in $130?
2.5" drop spindles -- $230+/-
adjustable tracking arm -- $?? i dunno already got one on my truck
2" blocks -- $30
new shorter shocks -- $100-150
2x 12 packs of your choice beer -- $varies

lotik · 10-02-2002, 09:38 PM

i just spent $2000 on my setup, plus i still have to fabricate my mounts. heh

Dropt72Shortbed · 10-02-2002, 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by lotik
i just spent $2000 on my setup, plus i still have to fabricate my mounts. heh

i hope that included an engine driven compressor.

what all did you buy for $2000?

XXL · 10-02-2002, 10:12 PM

Just curious why you went with 1/2" line. You're using 3/8" valves, which means your maximum air flow is limited to what a 3/8" valve can do.

Kenneth

lotik · 10-02-2002, 10:27 PM

4 slam specialties ES-82 ($139)
8 Ekstensive Metal Works 1/2" 500psi valves ($70)
1 Viair 450 ($240)
Pressure Switch ($25)
Check Valve ($25)
Double Bottle Brackets (for nitrogen)($185)
Ekstensive Quick-disconnect fittings (all) ($200)
Switches ($5?)
Guages ($20?)
1/2" Line (Threw it in for free)
Also bought a rollpan w/LEDs and cotroller box for blinkers/brakes ($240)
Bought Tank from AIM (9gal 8-port)($69)

These are all 'round about prices.. little more or less..

I think he shipped it for free as well.

jay-dawg · 10-02-2002, 10:32 PM

where did you order the slam specialty bags? all 4 for $139?

jay

lotik · 10-02-2002, 10:41 PM

each of those prices is for each one..like $139 each

NSANE68!!! · 10-02-2002, 10:46 PM

I listed this on the suspension board.

I offer the complete kit for $1200+ S&H, taking all the guess work out of brackets drilling ect. My kit offers the ability of 4 wheel independent control (4valves & switches)

Kit includes
4-3/8 175psi valves 3-position valves
4- switches
2- dual needle gauges
1- single needle gauge
2- compressors
1- 6gal tank
1-120 on 150 off pressure switch
2- front bag mounts
40' of DOT 3/8" air line
40' of 1/4" DOT air line
All fittings included

This is a complete kit priced for the builder on a BUDGET! We've all been there and done that. LOL

Ackattack · 10-02-2002, 10:56 PM

I lowered my truck for pretty cheap.

~$250 2.5 drop spindles + $45 alignment
~ $0 Remove 1 leaf spring

sits pretty nice, but not a lot of load capacity. I'm looking at some auxilary air bags though to haul around a motorcycle.

Dropt72Shortbed · 10-03-2002, 12:47 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by XXL
Just curious why you went with 1/2" line. You're using 3/8" valves, which means your maximum air flow is limited to what a 3/8" valve can do.

Kenneth

last time i checked 3/8" valves were optimized with 1/2" line. i think the inside of the 1/2" line is only 3/8"

Dropt72Shortbed · 10-03-2002, 12:55 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by NSANE68!!!
Kit includes
4-3/8 175psi valves 3-position valves
4- switches
2- dual needle gauges
1- single needle gauge
2- compressors
1- 6gal tank
1-120 on 150 off pressure switch
2- front bag mounts
40' of DOT 3/8" air line
40' of 1/4" DOT air line

what compressors?

and why 1/4" line with 3/8" valves? 1/4" line is sllllow.

NSANE68!!! · 10-03-2002, 10:35 AM

I don't think you read all of my list. The valves run on the 3/8" line. The 1/4" line is for the GAUGES, LOL. Compressors, I'll have to check, they are not the fastest compressors in the world but with 2 it's not soooo bad. Me I run Co2. WAAAAAAYYYYY BETTER!!

Dropt72Shortbed · 10-03-2002, 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by NSANE68!!!
The valves run on the 3/8" line. The 1/4" line is for the GAUGES, LOL. Compressors, I'll have to check, they are not the fastest compressors in the world but with 2 it's not soooo bad.

ah... that makes sense, i was wondering who in their right mind would run 1/4" line when they had valves that could take so much more. i guess some guys dont want it that fast, but still with 1/4" line itd probably take 3-4 seconds to get a heavy truck to ride height.

you guys do know that 3/8" valves are optimized with 1/2" line? i believe when they classify it as 1/2" line that is the overall diameter and not the inside diameter of the line which is equal to the the valves diameter which is truely 3/8"

i just went for one big fast 100% duty compressor. i was considering two smaller slower compressors just incase if one went out id still have one to limp home on.

nate68 · 10-03-2002, 11:02 AM

if we buy your kit can we upgrade stuff like to a better compressor?

NSANE68!!! · 10-03-2002, 02:33 PM

Sure, email me at casey@phatcustoms.com and we will figure it out.

Slammed67 · 10-03-2002, 02:35 PM

Just my $0.02...... 3/8" valves/air line is plenty fast. I'd actually like to slow down the rear bags...... they raise too fast for my taste. Maybe the addition of the tailgate and rear bumper will slow it down bit

Dropt72Shortbed · 10-03-2002, 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Slammed67
Just my $0.02...... 3/8" valves/air line is plenty fast. I'd actually like to slow down the rear bags...... they raise too fast for my taste. Maybe the addition of the tailgate and rear bumper will slow it down bit

thats true.

i know the 3/8"valve/ 1/2" line combo is enough to hop an s10 off the ground. 1/2" line is pretty damn quick, ive seen guys at shows running dual 15mm smcs (1/2") with 5/8" air line and its kinda stupid, the truck lifts so fast its impossible to control.

ive also seen guys run the 1/2" line with 3/8" valves and then theres special things you can put at the end of the dump to slow it down when you release the air.

NSANE68!!! · 10-03-2002, 03:08 PM

Dropt72shortbed, the MUFFLERS can be put on the dump port to slow the drop speed. But thats no FUN!!! LOL

slammed67, you might try these metering valves for the back, if you think its too fast. I can get em for $17 ea.

Project1970 · 10-03-2002, 06:37 PM

Just wondering, since this won't be happening for years by my guess...

What's involved in bagging a leaf-spring truck? I've got 4" drop leaf springs from Early Classic and while I love the stance, the ride isn't exactly that good (as opposed to my friend's now-wrecked '69 dropped just about the same, maybe a bit lower, coil rear...rode like a Caddy)

Basically, I want a better ride with the ability to control ride height a bit (not much, but I personally wouldn't mind dropping the rear a bit more most of the time, don't really care about being able to slam it) and it'd be especially nice to be able to stiffen the front and the right rear for drag racing.

lotik · 10-03-2002, 08:19 PM

your best bet would be to buy one of the kits. and put a c-notch in.

NSANE68!!! · 10-03-2002, 10:21 PM

A leaf truck will never ride like a Caddy. Sorry, just the nature of the beast. Coils always have a smoother ride.

The good news is you can slam out a leaf truck and have a pretty descent ride. I did my 72 GMC and it didn't ride too bad.

Project1970 · 10-04-2002, 12:23 AM

Oh, I know it'd never ride as good...but would it be worth it for an improvement in ride quality?

I'd like to pin it on my shocks, but said friend had the same ones in his - Belltech Nitrodrops...

Dropt72Shortbed · 10-04-2002, 02:12 AM

air ride sells a bolt in 4 link for leaf trucks i think? thatll definetly boost your ride quality

10-02-2002, 07:53 PM	#1
Dropt72Shortbed Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Huntington Beach CA Posts: 678	to everyone wondering how much bags actually cost... ive just completed buying my whole system. bags air lift gen 2, 2b7s for front and 2b6ext for rear -- $250 shipped (airlift had buy 3 get 4 deal last week, so really $320 shipped) brackets front alter images brackets -- $80 shipped rear brackets -- no need on trailing arm rears tank and valves 8(for 4 way FBSS control) x 10mm 3/8" smcs -- $175 used from my friend(around $280 new) air lift 5 gallon 8x1/2" ported tank -- $75 shipped. compressor 1 x VIAIR450 100% duty - $230 line fittings etc 75ft of 1/2" line -- $60 all fittings + hardware (not cheapo hardware store stuff) and 150psi pressure switch -- $200. 2 x dual needle guages with line -- $85 Total -- $1150 for w/ buyin specials and valves used. woulda been $1330 without deals. you can put a kit together for less, smaller valves, only 4 valves for a crappy 2 way sistem, no guages, crappy small slow 25% duty compressor, only 3/8" line and 1/4" valves. you could probably save $325 going this route but for $325 why skimp? only last thing i need is a switch box or rocker switches, not very expensive like $25-30 and about 3 months of my time to install this (dont get to work much while in college) things i did not include that you will need (i left these out cause some people already have these, i had a few already.) c-notch -- bolt in $130? 2.5" drop spindles -- $230+/- adjustable tracking arm -- $?? i dunno already got one on my truck 2" blocks -- $30 new shorter shocks -- $100-150 2x 12 packs of your choice beer -- $varies

10-02-2002, 09:38 PM	#2
lotik drag it like you stole it Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Louisiana Posts: 542	i just spent $2000 on my setup, plus i still have to fabricate my mounts. heh __________________ negative camber //LA\\

10-02-2002, 10:12 PM	#4
XXL Señor Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Edge of the world Posts: 5,367	Just curious why you went with 1/2" line. You're using 3/8" valves, which means your maximum air flow is limited to what a 3/8" valve can do. Kenneth __________________ Craigslist \| ebay \| Engrishtees \| www.myattitudesucks.com \| Follow me on Twitter

10-02-2002, 10:27 PM	#5
lotik drag it like you stole it Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Louisiana Posts: 542	4 slam specialties ES-82 ($139) 8 Ekstensive Metal Works 1/2" 500psi valves ($70) 1 Viair 450 ($240) Pressure Switch ($25) Check Valve ($25) Double Bottle Brackets (for nitrogen)($185) Ekstensive Quick-disconnect fittings (all) ($200) Switches ($5?) Guages ($20?) 1/2" Line (Threw it in for free) Also bought a rollpan w/LEDs and cotroller box for blinkers/brakes ($240) Bought Tank from AIM (9gal 8-port)($69) These are all 'round about prices.. little more or less.. I think he shipped it for free as well. __________________ negative camber //LA\\

10-02-2002, 10:32 PM	#6
jay-dawg chevelito Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Honolulu, HI USA Posts: 1,609	where did you order the slam specialty bags? all 4 for $139? jay __________________ New deadline...when my son can drive. Aloha from Honolulu, HI

10-02-2002, 10:41 PM	#7
lotik drag it like you stole it Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Louisiana Posts: 542	each of those prices is for each one..like $139 each __________________ negative camber //LA\\

10-02-2002, 10:46 PM	#8
NSANE68!!! SLICER AND DICIER Join Date: May 2001 Location: Quuen Creek Posts: 1,383	I listed this on the suspension board. I offer the complete kit for $1200+ S&H, taking all the guess work out of brackets drilling ect. My kit offers the ability of 4 wheel independent control (4valves & switches) Kit includes 4-3/8 175psi valves 3-position valves 4- switches 2- dual needle gauges 1- single needle gauge 2- compressors 1- 6gal tank 1-120 on 150 off pressure switch 2- front bag mounts 40' of DOT 3/8" air line 40' of 1/4" DOT air line All fittings included This is a complete kit priced for the builder on a BUDGET! We've all been there and done that. LOL __________________ 01 Tahoe 22's 2/4 drop and tv's 68 chevy money pit 51 chevy belair 95 Honda 900RR 05 GMC Siearra (company truck) Last edited by NSANE68!!!; 10-02-2002 at 10:49 PM.

10-02-2002, 10:56 PM	#9
Ackattack Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Valley Center KS Posts: 3,524	I lowered my truck for pretty cheap. ~$250 2.5 drop spindles + $45 alignment ~ $0 Remove 1 leaf spring sits pretty nice, but not a lot of load capacity. I'm looking at some auxilary air bags though to haul around a motorcycle. __________________ Project Bruiser: 68 Pro-Touring C-10 5.3L / 4L60E Project Ironhide: 97 GMC Crew Cab 4x4 Cummins SOLD: '69 GMC 1/2T SWB TBI'd: Project No Buck Assembly Manual Index Sign up Thread!!! Factory Service Manual Index

10-03-2002, 10:35 AM	#12
NSANE68!!! SLICER AND DICIER Join Date: May 2001 Location: Quuen Creek Posts: 1,383	I don't think you read all of my list. The valves run on the 3/8" line. The 1/4" line is for the GAUGES, LOL. Compressors, I'll have to check, they are not the fastest compressors in the world but with 2 it's not soooo bad. Me I run Co2. WAAAAAAYYYYY BETTER!! __________________ 01 Tahoe 22's 2/4 drop and tv's 68 chevy money pit 51 chevy belair 95 Honda 900RR 05 GMC Siearra (company truck)

10-03-2002, 11:02 AM	#14
nate68 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2000 Location: ca Posts: 1,110	if we buy your kit can we upgrade stuff like to a better compressor? __________________ 68 short step, 406/700r4, 9" w/discs.

10-03-2002, 02:33 PM	#15
NSANE68!!! SLICER AND DICIER Join Date: May 2001 Location: Quuen Creek Posts: 1,383	Sure, email me at casey@phatcustoms.com and we will figure it out. __________________ 01 Tahoe 22's 2/4 drop and tv's 68 chevy money pit 51 chevy belair 95 Honda 900RR 05 GMC Siearra (company truck)

10-03-2002, 02:35 PM	#16
Slammed67 Progress = 0% Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 2,108	Just my $0.02...... 3/8" valves/air line is plenty fast. I'd actually like to slow down the rear bags...... they raise too fast for my taste. Maybe the addition of the tailgate and rear bumper will slow it down bit __________________ Jason - '67 GMC swb \| '57 Bel-Air 4dr hardtop \| '56 210 4dr Wagon \| 2000 GMC Sierra

10-03-2002, 03:08 PM	#18
NSANE68!!! SLICER AND DICIER Join Date: May 2001 Location: Quuen Creek Posts: 1,383	Dropt72shortbed, the MUFFLERS can be put on the dump port to slow the drop speed. But thats no FUN!!! LOL slammed67, you might try these metering valves for the back, if you think its too fast. I can get em for $17 ea. Attached Images __________________ 01 Tahoe 22's 2/4 drop and tv's 68 chevy money pit 51 chevy belair 95 Honda 900RR 05 GMC Siearra (company truck)

10-03-2002, 06:37 PM	#19
Project1970 14.1 @ 96MPH Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Mesa, AZ Posts: 2,811	Just wondering, since this won't be happening for years by my guess... What's involved in bagging a leaf-spring truck? I've got 4" drop leaf springs from Early Classic and while I love the stance, the ride isn't exactly that good (as opposed to my friend's now-wrecked '69 dropped just about the same, maybe a bit lower, coil rear...rode like a Caddy) Basically, I want a better ride with the ability to control ride height a bit (not much, but I personally wouldn't mind dropping the rear a bit more most of the time, don't really care about being able to slam it) and it'd be especially nice to be able to stiffen the front and the right rear for drag racing. __________________ Project1970 - LS1 Swap Complete!

10-03-2002, 08:19 PM	#20
lotik drag it like you stole it Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Louisiana Posts: 542	your best bet would be to buy one of the kits. and put a c-notch in. __________________ negative camber //LA\\



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10-03-2002, 10:21 PM	#21
NSANE68!!! SLICER AND DICIER Join Date: May 2001 Location: Quuen Creek Posts: 1,383	A leaf truck will never ride like a Caddy. Sorry, just the nature of the beast. Coils always have a smoother ride. The good news is you can slam out a leaf truck and have a pretty descent ride. I did my 72 GMC and it didn't ride too bad. __________________ 01 Tahoe 22's 2/4 drop and tv's 68 chevy money pit 51 chevy belair 95 Honda 900RR 05 GMC Siearra (company truck)

10-04-2002, 12:23 AM	#22
Project1970 14.1 @ 96MPH Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Mesa, AZ Posts: 2,811	Oh, I know it'd never ride as good...but would it be worth it for an improvement in ride quality? I'd like to pin it on my shocks, but said friend had the same ones in his - Belltech Nitrodrops... __________________ Project1970 - LS1 Swap Complete!

10-04-2002, 02:12 AM	#23
Dropt72Shortbed Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Huntington Beach CA Posts: 678	air ride sells a bolt in 4 link for leaf trucks i think? thatll definetly boost your ride quality

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