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**53burb** · 06-27-2006, 01:25 AM

I looked at some heads with casting#14102193. According to Mortec.com, these have 1.94" & 1.5" valves. And it shows that these were from '87-up. They were center bolt heads & the block had the provisions for the fuel pump, not sure about the camshaft. So is this a Vortec engine & heads???

jsbgump · 06-27-2006, 02:02 AM

They went to the vortec in 96. It is they same style bolt pattern for the valve covers but a little bit differnt casting.

boot85 · 06-27-2006, 02:05 AM

It may be a vortec engine but I doubt it. The vortec flavor had more of a multiport injection design. Not the old crappy throttle body injection. I might be wrong, this is only my opinion.

tommie · 06-27-2006, 03:10 AM

vortec sbc blocks had plastic timing chain covers, and are roller cam motors.
vortec sbc heads have 4 bolts per head for the intake...... tbi engines, have 6 intake bolts per head for the intake with the center two "canted" they are not at the same angle as the other ones. just from what you are describing, it sounds like a tbi engine

**53burb** · 06-27-2006, 09:27 AM

The two center bolts were straight & not angled. I did not look at the timing cover. There is no intake on it. I'm thinking it was a TBI engine like everybody else is thinking. Maybe, I will give him a call tonight & have him verify the bolt holes per head....
Thanks everybody,
Chris

70rs/ss · 06-27-2006, 11:59 AM

Some refer to what you have as early Vortec, I have one and they are a one piece rear main with non-roller cams. These are not the performers like the 96 and up Vortecs. Check out Carcraft.com they have a cylinder hear flow chart, you just look for your head and they give you the flowbench numbers as well as an opinion based on all the other heads tested.

**Boog** · 06-27-2006, 12:41 PM

This is a late 80's early 90's tbi engine. Not Vortec. My two 88's have that very engine.

70rs/ss · 06-27-2006, 12:55 PM

Yeah, TBI, but some call it early Vortec. I have one from a Van. The heads are good, and the block is as good as any core, so build it, the heads can always stand work, but if I was you, I'd hold out for a "real" set of Vortecs. New they are $500, and if you buy used and have em done, it'll be close to $5 hundred, buy new!!

jimfulco · 06-28-2006, 02:01 AM

-193 is the "swirl-port" head, isn't it?

**53burb** · 06-29-2006, 05:48 AM

Thanks for the help everybody. I passed on them. I was pretty sure the Vortec heads started in '96 when GM finally went to MPFI on their trucks. Just wanted to make sure.

stroked71 · 07-05-2006, 04:51 PM

Here is the casting number for the real vortec 350 heads 10239906 96-up. 1.94 and 1.50 valves 64 cc chambers 170 intake ports exc. exc. 8 intake bolt's not 12.

cableguy0 · 07-05-2006, 07:51 PM

the vortec is the chamber design. theres no such thing as an early vortec. the early heads were simply a centerbolt head for tbi injected trucks. definately nothing spectacular

Tom · 07-05-2006, 11:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stroked71

Here is the casting number for the real vortec 350 heads 10239906 96-up. 1.94 and 1.50 valves 64 cc chambers 170 intake ports exc. exc. 8 intake bolt's not 12.

You forgot the 062 castings, also L31 vortec's

stroked71 · 07-06-2006, 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom

You forgot the 062 castings, also L31 vortec's

Ya I know I thought about that after I posted lol.

68haywagon · 07-06-2006, 10:43 AM

I have a question....not to stir sh*t, but how come my 93 4.3l says Vortec on the window sticker. Is that when they started using the name or does it actually have something to do with the heads? It is a TBI motor.

Mike

cableguy0 · 07-06-2006, 01:35 PM

the 4.3 vortec started earlier than the 5.7 vortec.

68haywagon · 07-06-2006, 01:40 PM

Ahh ok. Thanks.

Mike

06-27-2006, 02:02 AM	#2
jsbgump Gone Fishing Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Fort Worth, Texas 76135 Posts: 12,361	Re: Vortec Heads & Block They went to the vortec in 96. It is they same style bolt pattern for the valve covers but a little bit differnt casting. __________________ 68 Chevy Short Fleetside LSX Swap Under Way 3.73 posi 2.5/4 drop Frame of resto has been started 2022 Hyundai Tucson Limited 2019 Chevy Traverse Redline Edition Wifes Ride Build Thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...=1#post3483616

06-27-2006, 02:05 AM	#3
boot85 71 Chevy Join Date: May 2006 Location: Madison, Wisconsin Posts: 83	Re: Vortec Heads & Block It may be a vortec engine but I doubt it. The vortec flavor had more of a multiport injection design. Not the old crappy throttle body injection. I might be wrong, this is only my opinion. __________________ 71 C10 72 C20 62 Chevy II 2DR HT

06-27-2006, 03:10 AM	#4
tommie 97' Tahoe 2dr/2wd Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Huffman,TX Posts: 1,168	Re: Vortec Heads & Block vortec sbc blocks had plastic timing chain covers, and are roller cam motors. vortec sbc heads have 4 bolts per head for the intake...... tbi engines, have 6 intake bolts per head for the intake with the center two "canted" they are not at the same angle as the other ones. just from what you are describing, it sounds like a tbi engine

06-27-2006, 09:27 AM	#5
53burb Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Queen Creek, AZ Posts: 1,015	Re: Vortec Heads & Block The two center bolts were straight & not angled. I did not look at the timing cover. There is no intake on it. I'm thinking it was a TBI engine like everybody else is thinking. Maybe, I will give him a call tonight & have him verify the bolt holes per head.... Thanks everybody, Chris

06-27-2006, 11:59 AM	#6
70rs/ss Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Northern AZ Posts: 7,270	Re: Vortec Heads & Block Some refer to what you have as early Vortec, I have one and they are a one piece rear main with non-roller cams. These are not the performers like the 96 and up Vortecs. Check out Carcraft.com they have a cylinder hear flow chart, you just look for your head and they give you the flowbench numbers as well as an opinion based on all the other heads tested.

06-27-2006, 01:25 AM	#1
53burb Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Queen Creek, AZ Posts: 1,015	Vortec Heads & Block I looked at some heads with casting#14102193. According to Mortec.com, these have 1.94" & 1.5" valves. And it shows that these were from '87-up. They were center bolt heads & the block had the provisions for the fuel pump, not sure about the camshaft. So is this a Vortec engine & heads???

06-27-2006, 12:41 PM	#7
Boog laying low Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Searcy, Ark. USA Posts: 13,666	Re: Vortec Heads & Block This is a late 80's early 90's tbi engine. Not Vortec. My two 88's have that very engine. __________________ Boog 69 Chevy stepside, 358/T350, 4.11 posi, 4.5/4 drop, rallys, poboy driver primer is finer 91 Chevy sportside, Tahoe, Yukon & GMC Crewcab All GM..'nuff said. I stand for the flag and kneel at the cross

06-27-2006, 12:55 PM	#8
70rs/ss Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Northern AZ Posts: 7,270	Re: Vortec Heads & Block Yeah, TBI, but some call it early Vortec. I have one from a Van. The heads are good, and the block is as good as any core, so build it, the heads can always stand work, but if I was you, I'd hold out for a "real" set of Vortecs. New they are $500, and if you buy used and have em done, it'll be close to $5 hundred, buy new!!

06-28-2006, 02:01 AM	#9
jimfulco Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Location: Shreveport LA Posts: 3,170	Re: Vortec Heads & Block -193 is the "swirl-port" head, isn't it?

06-29-2006, 05:48 AM	#10
53burb Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Queen Creek, AZ Posts: 1,015	Re: Vortec Heads & Block Thanks for the help everybody. I passed on them. I was pretty sure the Vortec heads started in '96 when GM finally went to MPFI on their trucks. Just wanted to make sure.

07-05-2006, 04:51 PM	#11
stroked71 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: okc Posts: 24	Re: Vortec Heads & Block Here is the casting number for the real vortec 350 heads 10239906 96-up. 1.94 and 1.50 valves 64 cc chambers 170 intake ports exc. exc. 8 intake bolt's not 12.

07-05-2006, 07:51 PM	#12
cableguy0 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Delta,Pa Posts: 14,948	Re: Vortec Heads & Block the vortec is the chamber design. theres no such thing as an early vortec. the early heads were simply a centerbolt head for tbi injected trucks. definately nothing spectacular __________________ Owner of North Point Car Care in Dundalk Md. We specialize in custom exhaust on both modern and classic vehicles. We are a full service auto shop from classics to modern vehicles. Feel free to contact me with questions. I will give a 10% discount to any board member.

07-06-2006, 10:43 AM	#15
68haywagon I'm watching you! Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Levittown, PA Posts: 1,822	Re: Vortec Heads & Block I have a question....not to stir sh*t, but how come my 93 4.3l says Vortec on the window sticker. Is that when they started using the name or does it actually have something to do with the heads? It is a TBI motor. Mike __________________ 2012 Chevrolet Silverado 1500 Z71 4WD 1993 Chevrolet C-1500 W/T - Blue - 4.3L V-6, 4 speed auto - Dad's (RIP) 1992 Chevrolet S10 - LS swap project 1968 Chevrolet C-10 longbed fleetside - sold

07-06-2006, 01:35 PM	#16
cableguy0 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Delta,Pa Posts: 14,948	Re: Vortec Heads & Block the 4.3 vortec started earlier than the 5.7 vortec. __________________ Owner of North Point Car Care in Dundalk Md. We specialize in custom exhaust on both modern and classic vehicles. We are a full service auto shop from classics to modern vehicles. Feel free to contact me with questions. I will give a 10% discount to any board member.

07-06-2006, 01:40 PM	#17
68haywagon I'm watching you! Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Levittown, PA Posts: 1,822	Re: Vortec Heads & Block Ahh ok. Thanks. Mike __________________ 2012 Chevrolet Silverado 1500 Z71 4WD 1993 Chevrolet C-1500 W/T - Blue - 4.3L V-6, 4 speed auto - Dad's (RIP) 1992 Chevrolet S10 - LS swap project 1968 Chevrolet C-10 longbed fleetside - sold



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