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cornutz · 07-01-2006, 12:37 AM

Well, we just rebuilt the front end of the 72 suburban, we did one side at a time and put things back just as they were...since we did one side at a time. Well I take it to get aligned and the guys say that the upper control arms are on the wrong sides??? So I go ahead and have them switch them, figuring they know more than me... and this place is highly recomended by a few people I know...but when I turn the wheel sharply to the right or left, the wheel tilts out real bad at the top and the wheel looks like it is only riding on the outer edges of the wheel? I have had this thing aligned twice already and the previous place told me the track bar was on wrong, so we switched it out and put it so that it is VERY close to the crossmember???

Basically I would like to see some pics of how close the track bar should be on 2wd's to the cross member, and should the dowel to line up the the upper control arm shaft be toward the front or the rear of the vehicle??? I think having these two questions answered would greatly help me finish what was supposed to be a simple rebuild and has now turned into a real cluster-F!!!!

Thanks in advance!

Happy Fourth to US ALL!!!

glock35ipsc · 07-01-2006, 12:46 AM

Drivers side, passenger side, passenger side from the front, and the center link from underneath.

* What did they mean by "track bar"?

* Do you mean the dowel on the lower control arm shaft?

cornutz · 07-01-2006, 12:50 AM

I think they are referring to the drag link bar??? Yours in the last pic looks to be a few inches away...mine right now is VERY close to the cross member...

Thanks for the pics!

glock35ipsc · 07-01-2006, 12:51 AM

Hmmm, how did that foot print get on the bottom of my crosmember??

glock35ipsc · 07-01-2006, 12:51 AM

Actually, that pic makes it look far away. I can barely squeeze a finger in there. Did these help, or do you want me to snap something else?

cornutz · 07-01-2006, 12:55 AM

Sorry, got upper vs. lower control arms confused...but they DID switch the uppers....

Will check tomorrow on mine vs. your pics....thanks again!

Bill

glock35ipsc · 07-01-2006, 01:03 AM

No problem. The only thing I can think of that would let the top of the tire camber out like that would be that they didn't tighten up the studs that the shims go behind, that would let the upper control arm "fall out" and tip the top of the tire out.

cornutz · 07-01-2006, 01:04 AM

So your drag link bar is VERY tight too???

glock35ipsc · 07-01-2006, 01:05 AM

Probably 1/4", maybe 3/8" at the farthest.

cornutz · 07-01-2006, 01:06 AM

Yeah, this whole ordeal has been very frustrating! I know they shimmed the hell out of both sides... but I didnt check the studs out... I WILL DO THIS TOO! tomorrow!

Again, many many thanks!!!

Bill

glock35ipsc · 07-01-2006, 01:08 AM

Any time! Heck, you get better service here than if you called Dell!

glock35ipsc · 07-01-2006, 01:10 AM

Something else, double check the coil springs to make sure that they are seated where they should be.

cornutz · 07-01-2006, 01:11 AM

AHHHH, I will check that too!!!

Thanks, and have a great Fourth!!!

cornutz · 07-01-2006, 06:40 PM

I cant believe it!!! THEY wanted to switch them because they were on "wrong" according to THEM!!! and now they ARE WRONG!!! A$$ BACKWARDS!!!!

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

krue · 07-01-2006, 06:56 PM

Make them switch them back, and pay for the tire wear and alignments!

cornutz · 07-02-2006, 12:05 AM

OH YES! I will be calling them Monday, hopefully, they will be open for the day, like so many other shops here in the central valley, and I WILL get it done the right way! Man, I hate it when a place comes HIGHLY recommended by a friend and this shiznit ends up happening! Oh well, life happens!

07-01-2006, 12:37 AM	#1
cornutz All Praise RANDY!! Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Central California Posts: 391	Please HELP!!! Need pics ASAP Well, we just rebuilt the front end of the 72 suburban, we did one side at a time and put things back just as they were...since we did one side at a time. Well I take it to get aligned and the guys say that the upper control arms are on the wrong sides??? So I go ahead and have them switch them, figuring they know more than me... and this place is highly recomended by a few people I know...but when I turn the wheel sharply to the right or left, the wheel tilts out real bad at the top and the wheel looks like it is only riding on the outer edges of the wheel? I have had this thing aligned twice already and the previous place told me the track bar was on wrong, so we switched it out and put it so that it is VERY close to the crossmember??? Basically I would like to see some pics of how close the track bar should be on 2wd's to the cross member, and should the dowel to line up the the upper control arm shaft be toward the front or the rear of the vehicle??? I think having these two questions answered would greatly help me finish what was supposed to be a simple rebuild and has now turned into a real cluster-F!!!! Thanks in advance! Happy Fourth to US ALL!!!

07-01-2006, 12:46 AM	#2
glock35ipsc Next project: 1970 K10 Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Fort Collins, Colo 80524 Posts: 6,685	Re: Please HELP!!! Need pics ASAP Drivers side, passenger side, passenger side from the front, and the center link from underneath. * What did they mean by "track bar"? * Do you mean the dowel on the lower control arm shaft? Attached Images __________________ *Bob* 1970 Chevy K10 LWB "Goldie" 350/TH350 *next project!!* 1981 Chevy C10 LWB 355/TH350 - My son's truck LS SWAP FORUM! Tons of LS swap info here! PLEASE CLICK HERE TO SUPPORT THE GREATEST BOARD ON THE NET! CLICK HERE FOR THE FAQ INDEX by KRUE Last edited by glock35ipsc; 07-01-2006 at 12:49 AM.

07-01-2006, 12:50 AM	#3
cornutz All Praise RANDY!! Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Central California Posts: 391	Re: Please HELP!!! Need pics ASAP I think they are referring to the drag link bar??? Yours in the last pic looks to be a few inches away...mine right now is VERY close to the cross member... Thanks for the pics!

07-01-2006, 12:51 AM	#4
glock35ipsc Next project: 1970 K10 Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Fort Collins, Colo 80524 Posts: 6,685	Re: Please HELP!!! Need pics ASAP Hmmm, how did that foot print get on the bottom of my crosmember?? __________________ *Bob* 1970 Chevy K10 LWB "Goldie" 350/TH350 *next project!!* 1981 Chevy C10 LWB 355/TH350 - My son's truck LS SWAP FORUM! Tons of LS swap info here! PLEASE CLICK HERE TO SUPPORT THE GREATEST BOARD ON THE NET! CLICK HERE FOR THE FAQ INDEX by KRUE

07-01-2006, 12:51 AM	#5
glock35ipsc Next project: 1970 K10 Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Fort Collins, Colo 80524 Posts: 6,685	Re: Please HELP!!! Need pics ASAP Actually, that pic makes it look far away. I can barely squeeze a finger in there. Did these help, or do you want me to snap something else? __________________ *Bob* 1970 Chevy K10 LWB "Goldie" 350/TH350 *next project!!* 1981 Chevy C10 LWB 355/TH350 - My son's truck LS SWAP FORUM! Tons of LS swap info here! PLEASE CLICK HERE TO SUPPORT THE GREATEST BOARD ON THE NET! CLICK HERE FOR THE FAQ INDEX by KRUE Last edited by glock35ipsc; 07-01-2006 at 12:52 AM.

07-01-2006, 12:55 AM	#6
cornutz All Praise RANDY!! Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Central California Posts: 391	Re: Please HELP!!! Need pics ASAP Sorry, got upper vs. lower control arms confused...but they DID switch the uppers.... Will check tomorrow on mine vs. your pics....thanks again! Bill

07-01-2006, 01:03 AM	#7
glock35ipsc Next project: 1970 K10 Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Fort Collins, Colo 80524 Posts: 6,685	Re: Please HELP!!! Need pics ASAP No problem. The only thing I can think of that would let the top of the tire camber out like that would be that they didn't tighten up the studs that the shims go behind, that would let the upper control arm "fall out" and tip the top of the tire out. __________________ *Bob* 1970 Chevy K10 LWB "Goldie" 350/TH350 *next project!!* 1981 Chevy C10 LWB 355/TH350 - My son's truck LS SWAP FORUM! Tons of LS swap info here! PLEASE CLICK HERE TO SUPPORT THE GREATEST BOARD ON THE NET! CLICK HERE FOR THE FAQ INDEX by KRUE

07-01-2006, 01:04 AM	#8
cornutz All Praise RANDY!! Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Central California Posts: 391	Re: Please HELP!!! Need pics ASAP So your drag link bar is VERY tight too???

07-01-2006, 01:05 AM	#9
glock35ipsc Next project: 1970 K10 Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Fort Collins, Colo 80524 Posts: 6,685	Re: Please HELP!!! Need pics ASAP Probably 1/4", maybe 3/8" at the farthest. __________________ *Bob* 1970 Chevy K10 LWB "Goldie" 350/TH350 *next project!!* 1981 Chevy C10 LWB 355/TH350 - My son's truck LS SWAP FORUM! Tons of LS swap info here! PLEASE CLICK HERE TO SUPPORT THE GREATEST BOARD ON THE NET! CLICK HERE FOR THE FAQ INDEX by KRUE

07-01-2006, 01:06 AM	#10
cornutz All Praise RANDY!! Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Central California Posts: 391	Re: Please HELP!!! Need pics ASAP Yeah, this whole ordeal has been very frustrating! I know they shimmed the hell out of both sides... but I didnt check the studs out... I WILL DO THIS TOO! tomorrow! Again, many many thanks!!! Bill

07-01-2006, 01:08 AM	#11
glock35ipsc Next project: 1970 K10 Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Fort Collins, Colo 80524 Posts: 6,685	Re: Please HELP!!! Need pics ASAP Any time! Heck, you get better service here than if you called Dell! __________________ *Bob* 1970 Chevy K10 LWB "Goldie" 350/TH350 *next project!!* 1981 Chevy C10 LWB 355/TH350 - My son's truck LS SWAP FORUM! Tons of LS swap info here! PLEASE CLICK HERE TO SUPPORT THE GREATEST BOARD ON THE NET! CLICK HERE FOR THE FAQ INDEX by KRUE

07-01-2006, 01:10 AM	#12
glock35ipsc Next project: 1970 K10 Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Fort Collins, Colo 80524 Posts: 6,685	Re: Please HELP!!! Need pics ASAP Something else, double check the coil springs to make sure that they are seated where they should be. __________________ *Bob* 1970 Chevy K10 LWB "Goldie" 350/TH350 *next project!!* 1981 Chevy C10 LWB 355/TH350 - My son's truck LS SWAP FORUM! Tons of LS swap info here! PLEASE CLICK HERE TO SUPPORT THE GREATEST BOARD ON THE NET! CLICK HERE FOR THE FAQ INDEX by KRUE

07-01-2006, 01:11 AM	#13
cornutz All Praise RANDY!! Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Central California Posts: 391	Re: Please HELP!!! Need pics ASAP AHHHH, I will check that too!!! Thanks, and have a great Fourth!!!

07-01-2006, 06:40 PM	#14
cornutz All Praise RANDY!! Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Central California Posts: 391	Re: Please HELP!!! Need pics ASAP I cant believe it!!! THEY wanted to switch them because they were on "wrong" according to THEM!!! and now they ARE WRONG!!! A$$ BACKWARDS!!!! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

07-01-2006, 06:56 PM	#15
krue Designated A-hole! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: South Mississippi Posts: 36,450	Re: Please HELP!!! Need pics ASAP Make them switch them back, and pay for the tire wear and alignments! __________________ "If it ain't broke, fix it 'til it is!" Being stupid ain't illegal. We're Still Debt Free Except for the House!!! www.daveramsey.com 70 GMC SWB Stepside project "Green Booger" soon to be 6.0l/4l80e 93 S-10 "Poppaw's Truck"



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07-02-2006, 12:05 AM	#16
cornutz All Praise RANDY!! Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Central California Posts: 391	Re: Please HELP!!! Need pics ASAP OH YES! I will be calling them Monday, hopefully, they will be open for the day, like so many other shops here in the central valley, and I WILL get it done the right way! Man, I hate it when a place comes HIGHLY recommended by a friend and this shiznit ends up happening! Oh well, life happens!

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