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QKENUF4U · 07-23-2006, 12:18 AM

what a FREAKIN FIASCO this has turned into.
1. DHL lost one of my 31x18.5x15 tires (the will be replacing it come monday since they cant find it now after sending it back to the LOST AND FOUND in ohio)
2. UPS put one of my rims on the wrong truck the day i got the other (that was taken care of the next day)
3. pulled a wheel tonight to check out the new rims and see how they fit. well you guess it THEY DONT because of my finned brake drums. (guy ask me if i had finned drums, i thought i had smooth drums)

4. tried to take a pic of my tire sitting under the truck to atleast give me some incentive to keep going (was gonna make it my background on the computer) and the freakin camera wouldnt take a clear pic even with the flash

so now i have ONE tire, TWO rims, 450$ in the hole and none of it fits

my question is................

do they make a NON-FINNED BRAKE DRUM FOR OUR TRUCKS ----> 71 2wd sb bb w/ 12bolt rear- 5 x 5

thanks
lance

**special-K** · 07-23-2006, 06:56 AM

Yes,they do.Wait...maybe not in 5-lug.It might be time for disc brakes on that bad boy.That`s what most steam rollers run anyway.

cdowns · 07-23-2006, 07:32 AM

i think the finned brakes are the heavy duty/ i believe there are nofins on a lighter duty(smaller shoes) brakes found mostly on 6cyl trucks//thats if i remember right sometimes i dont remember at all tho

**uncle** · 07-23-2006, 08:44 AM

Can't you redrill a 6 lug drum? It will only be lug centric , but would probably work.

QKENUF4U · 07-23-2006, 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by uncle

Can't you redrill a 6 lug drum? It will only be lug centric , but would probably work.

so uncle. are 6 lug drums smooth and the same diameter as a 5 lug ? if they are that may be my only option since i dont have the cash for disc's on the back (wish i did though)

AirMale · 07-23-2006, 04:33 PM

OK take it easy. How much of the drum is hitting? If it's around a 1/4 inch you're gonna be ok. I had wheels made for my truck and the drums wouldn't fit inside. If you know someone with a brake lathe have them machine the outside of the drum and bring a wheel to check your fit. Did this to my drums yesterday. They're is plenty of material on these drums. P.M. me if you need more help.

QKENUF4U · 07-23-2006, 05:34 PM

from what i seen last night i have WAY more than a 1/4" hitting. looks to me that half the drum would be machined away.

im gonna have to a bit more measureing etc. to be 100% for sure but its a no-go from what i can see.

AirMale · 07-23-2006, 05:44 PM

please post pics so we can help

QKENUF4U · 07-23-2006, 06:09 PM

ive got the 11.09" brakes ?
did some measureing and
the outside of the drum is 11"+,
backing plate is 12"+
and
overall diamter of the drum on backside is almost 14" .
i have just over 12" inside the rim.
im gonna call the guy that i got the rims from (EARLY WHEEL COMPANY) and ask him if there is anything i can do.
so what size brakes came on these trucks ?

AirMale · 07-23-2006, 06:29 PM

Ok,
I had some 14" steel wheels made at stockton wheel and they have a 11" backspace. Now when I went to put them on I freaked cuz the drum stopped just inside the rim. I called stockton and they advised me to machine the drums as I told you. I am working with a 12 bolt rear with 13 1/4" drums so we're on the same page. I hope you can get this squared away and get some pics. Wish we were closer so maybe I could help

67Fleet · 07-23-2006, 08:28 PM

re-drilling the bolt circle on a 6-lug may work, but I'm not sure. I do know that my 6-lug drums I bought at the local parts house are not finned and they were a lot cheaper than I thought they would be. May be an option for ya.

**special-K** · 07-24-2006, 09:21 AM

CDowns may be right about the lighter non-finned drums.That`s what I thought I remembered but wasn`t sure if I remembered what I thought or thought what I remembered.I may have forgot what I knew,then knew I forgot,and thought I didn`t know,when I did...know.
I was thinking you may be able to take some meat off of those heavy-duties.
Then,there`s re-drilling the 6-lugs,too.Yes,they are interchangeable.
I say you CAN have a pro-street(that stops).That`s a wide tire,but I still think you need two.Ah jeez,gonna be a wierd day...oiy vey.

QKENUF4U · 07-24-2006, 09:34 AM

do you know the diameter of the 6 bolt drum ? thats gonna be the major hurdle
thanks
lance

Joe67 · 07-24-2006, 09:58 AM

the replacement drums I bought for my 5 lug C10 project truck have fins. I picked them up at my local auto parts store.

Robznob11 · 07-24-2006, 02:47 PM

you could try an impala drum i dont know if they are finned or not.

QKENUF4U · 07-24-2006, 08:24 PM

JOE67- can you give me some dimensions on that drum ?
overall diameter front and back ? (i only have 12 5/8" INSIDE my rim from what the guy at early wheel told me)
he told today that alot of guys just shave that lip off the back and they fit fine. he also said i may have a HD 1/2 ton ??
ROBZNOB11- i did see those on ebay but dont know if they will fit my rear. i did see that they had NO fins though.

Robznob11 · 07-25-2006, 10:08 PM

impalas were 5 on 5 and im pretty sure that they are 11x2 i don't think that chevy would put 9.5 drums on there biggest car when you could get 11x2 drums on vertually all models...

Joe67 · 07-26-2006, 07:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by QKENUF4U

JOE67- can you give me some dimensions on that drum ?
overall diameter front and back ? (i only have 12 5/8" INSIDE my rim from what the guy at early wheel told me)
he told today that alot of guys just shave that lip off the back and they fit fine. he also said i may have a HD 1/2 ton ??

Sorry - I didn't read this until today. I won't be home until Friday, I can take the measurements then

Joe67 · 07-27-2006, 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by QKENUF4U

JOE67- can you give me some dimensions on that drum ?
overall diameter front and back ? (i only have 12 5/8" INSIDE my rim from what the guy at early wheel told me)
he told today that alot of guys just shave that lip off the back and they fit fine. he also said i may have a HD 1/2 ton ??

Rear diameter is about 13" on my drum. The wheels are on and I don't have time to pull them right now...

I just told the parts guy I had a 1972 C10 2wd pickup and this is what I got

AirMale · 07-28-2006, 11:09 AM

I hate to say it but I think Early wheel used the wrong size wheel tube for your truck application. There are different sizes for different applications from what my sales rep. at stockton wheel says. I hope you can ge this resolved cause I realize how much money wheels/tires cost.

07-23-2006, 12:18 AM	#1
QKENUF4U Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: SUNNY WARM BIKE RIDING COTTONWOOD ARIZONA Posts: 2,097	guess im not meant to have a pro-street....... what a FREAKIN FIASCO this has turned into. 1. DHL lost one of my 31x18.5x15 tires (the will be replacing it come monday since they cant find it now after sending it back to the LOST AND FOUND in ohio) 2. UPS put one of my rims on the wrong truck the day i got the other (that was taken care of the next day) 3. pulled a wheel tonight to check out the new rims and see how they fit. well you guess it THEY DONT because of my finned brake drums. (guy ask me if i had finned drums, i thought i had smooth drums) 4. tried to take a pic of my tire sitting under the truck to atleast give me some incentive to keep going (was gonna make it my background on the computer) and the freakin camera wouldnt take a clear pic even with the flash so now i have ONE tire, TWO rims, 450$ in the hole and none of it fits my question is................ do they make a NON-FINNED BRAKE DRUM FOR OUR TRUCKS ----> 71 2wd sb bb w/ 12bolt rear- 5 x 5 thanks lance Last edited by QKENUF4U; 07-23-2006 at 12:44 AM.

07-23-2006, 06:56 AM	#2
special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,851	Re: guess im not meant to have a pro-street....... Yes,they do.Wait...maybe not in 5-lug.It might be time for disc brakes on that bad boy.That`s what most steam rollers run anyway. __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~

07-23-2006, 07:32 AM	#3
cdowns Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: daytonabeach Posts: 22,956	Re: guess im not meant to have a pro-street....... i think the finned brakes are the heavy duty/ i believe there are nofins on a lighter duty(smaller shoes) brakes found mostly on 6cyl trucks//thats if i remember right sometimes i dont remember at all tho __________________ 71c-10 350/2004r/4:11 lowered3/4 longbed/dead by hurricane MEANING OF DEATH::::: SOMEBODY ELSE GETS YOUR STUFF DONT BELIEVE EVERYTHING YOU THINK TAKE MY ADVISE;I DON'T USE IT ANYWAY

07-23-2006, 08:44 AM	#4
uncle Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Conyers,Ga. Posts: 7,288	Re: guess im not meant to have a pro-street....... Can't you redrill a 6 lug drum? It will only be lug centric , but would probably work.

07-23-2006, 04:33 PM	#6
AirMale Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Atlantic City, NJ Posts: 1,073	Re: guess im not meant to have a pro-street....... OK take it easy. How much of the drum is hitting? If it's around a 1/4 inch you're gonna be ok. I had wheels made for my truck and the drums wouldn't fit inside. If you know someone with a brake lathe have them machine the outside of the drum and bring a wheel to check your fit. Did this to my drums yesterday. They're is plenty of material on these drums. P.M. me if you need more help. __________________ 86 SWB 9.0 LITER T-400-OD 4.11 eaton-4/5 drop Best 1/4 12.51 @112mph no traction

07-23-2006, 05:34 PM	#7
QKENUF4U Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: SUNNY WARM BIKE RIDING COTTONWOOD ARIZONA Posts: 2,097	Re: guess im not meant to have a pro-street....... from what i seen last night i have WAY more than a 1/4" hitting. looks to me that half the drum would be machined away. im gonna have to a bit more measureing etc. to be 100% for sure but its a no-go from what i can see.

07-23-2006, 05:44 PM	#8
AirMale Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Atlantic City, NJ Posts: 1,073	Re: guess im not meant to have a pro-street....... please post pics so we can help __________________ 86 SWB 9.0 LITER T-400-OD 4.11 eaton-4/5 drop Best 1/4 12.51 @112mph no traction

07-23-2006, 06:09 PM	#9
QKENUF4U Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: SUNNY WARM BIKE RIDING COTTONWOOD ARIZONA Posts: 2,097	Re: guess im not meant to have a pro-street....... ive got the 11.09" brakes ? did some measureing and the outside of the drum is 11"+, backing plate is 12"+ and overall diamter of the drum on backside is almost 14" . i have just over 12" inside the rim. im gonna call the guy that i got the rims from (EARLY WHEEL COMPANY) and ask him if there is anything i can do. so what size brakes came on these trucks ?

07-23-2006, 06:29 PM	#10
AirMale Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Atlantic City, NJ Posts: 1,073	Re: guess im not meant to have a pro-street....... Ok, I had some 14" steel wheels made at stockton wheel and they have a 11" backspace. Now when I went to put them on I freaked cuz the drum stopped just inside the rim. I called stockton and they advised me to machine the drums as I told you. I am working with a 12 bolt rear with 13 1/4" drums so we're on the same page. I hope you can get this squared away and get some pics. Wish we were closer so maybe I could help __________________ 86 SWB 9.0 LITER T-400-OD 4.11 eaton-4/5 drop Best 1/4 12.51 @112mph no traction

07-23-2006, 08:28 PM	#11
67Fleet Outlandish Trends - FL Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Orlando Posts: 1,396	Re: guess im not meant to have a pro-street....... re-drilling the bolt circle on a 6-lug may work, but I'm not sure. I do know that my 6-lug drums I bought at the local parts house are not finned and they were a lot cheaper than I thought they would be. May be an option for ya. __________________ -Bret 67 short-fleet sold!

07-24-2006, 09:21 AM	#12
special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,851	Re: guess im not meant to have a pro-street....... CDowns may be right about the lighter non-finned drums.That`s what I thought I remembered but wasn`t sure if I remembered what I thought or thought what I remembered.I may have forgot what I knew,then knew I forgot,and thought I didn`t know,when I did...know. I was thinking you may be able to take some meat off of those heavy-duties. Then,there`s re-drilling the 6-lugs,too.Yes,they are interchangeable. I say you CAN have a pro-street(that stops).That`s a wide tire,but I still think you need two.Ah jeez,gonna be a wierd day...oiy vey. __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~

07-24-2006, 09:34 AM	#13
QKENUF4U Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: SUNNY WARM BIKE RIDING COTTONWOOD ARIZONA Posts: 2,097	Re: guess im not meant to have a pro-street....... do you know the diameter of the 6 bolt drum ? thats gonna be the major hurdle thanks lance

07-24-2006, 09:58 AM	#14
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07-24-2006, 02:47 PM	#15
Robznob11 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: brownfield texas (west texas) Posts: 1,936	Re: guess im not meant to have a pro-street....... you could try an impala drum i dont know if they are finned or not. __________________ The Ghost 67 short wide full custom. 550 hp LSX, 4l80E, narrowed 9". Body dropped w/air ride! ........................ ___ .........________//__{\_____ ,,,,,,,/__(⊙)___//___/__(O)_/ @disciple2.rc 💪instagram💪 LED TAILS

07-24-2006, 08:24 PM	#16
QKENUF4U Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: SUNNY WARM BIKE RIDING COTTONWOOD ARIZONA Posts: 2,097	Re: guess im not meant to have a pro-street....... JOE67- can you give me some dimensions on that drum ? overall diameter front and back ? (i only have 12 5/8" INSIDE my rim from what the guy at early wheel told me) he told today that alot of guys just shave that lip off the back and they fit fine. he also said i may have a HD 1/2 ton ?? ROBZNOB11- i did see those on ebay but dont know if they will fit my rear. i did see that they had NO fins though.



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07-25-2006, 10:08 PM	#17
Robznob11 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: brownfield texas (west texas) Posts: 1,936	Re: guess im not meant to have a pro-street....... impalas were 5 on 5 and im pretty sure that they are 11x2 i don't think that chevy would put 9.5 drums on there biggest car when you could get 11x2 drums on vertually all models... __________________ The Ghost 67 short wide full custom. 550 hp LSX, 4l80E, narrowed 9". Body dropped w/air ride! ........................ ___ .........________//__{\_____ ,,,,,,,/__(⊙)___//___/__(O)_/ @disciple2.rc 💪instagram💪 LED TAILS

07-28-2006, 11:09 AM	#20
AirMale Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Atlantic City, NJ Posts: 1,073	Re: guess im not meant to have a pro-street....... I hate to say it but I think Early wheel used the wrong size wheel tube for your truck application. There are different sizes for different applications from what my sales rep. at stockton wheel says. I hope you can ge this resolved cause I realize how much money wheels/tires cost. __________________ 86 SWB 9.0 LITER T-400-OD 4.11 eaton-4/5 drop Best 1/4 12.51 @112mph no traction

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