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Old 08-28-2006, 07:55 PM   #1
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I didnt think I would ever get to this point dealing with permits and city codes and the mountain of crap I have had to climb to get to this point but its taking shape. Picked out a lift 2 post eagle lift 10K capacity. Has anyone had problems with these? Thanks in advance for any info. I looked at Mohawk lifts and they are EXSPENSIVE!!!!

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Old 08-28-2006, 08:00 PM   #2
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looking good man, what size is that building going to be?
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Old 08-28-2006, 08:06 PM   #3
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looking good man, what size is that building going to be?
Thanks, its 30ft by 50ft ceiling hight is 12' 6". I needed the extra hight because the lift is 145". This is one expensive project and I am glad it has a shower in it because I might be living in it.

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Old 08-28-2006, 08:34 PM   #4
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since you asked about the lift here's what i've encountered with my family's shop 2 post lift.

-keep the oil topped off. if it get's low it makes noilse and may damage the motor/pump.

-check and lube the safetys every couple months. ours had a safty stick half engauged and it bent the hell out of it.

-keep break oil off of it! it will peal the paint very very quickly.

-make yourself a parts/tool tray to slip over one of the arms. it will keep you from loosing things and save your back at the same time.

-the arms work great to hang things your painting including frames.


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Old 08-28-2006, 08:38 PM   #5
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Nice, still waiting on my bids to come back
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Man that's gonna be awesome!
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Nice, still waiting on my bids to come back
If there is one thing I have learned about building a shed this would be it. When you get your bids for the wood package from your local lumberyard make sure and have your framer look at the plans to be sure you get everything you need to build it. My starting bid from Lumber 84 was $8200 and I am now at $9600 because of all the stuff they forgot on the bid. Not to mention having to go down there twice a day to pick up more material. The other thing I have learned is cheapest isn't always the best. It may cost you more in the end. I hope you have a good experience building your shop. Have you had much grief going through the Permit stage of building?
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Thanks, its 30ft by 50ft ceiling hight is 12' 6". I needed the extra hight because the lift is 145". This is one expensive project and I am glad it has a shower in it because I might be living in it.

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Old 08-29-2006, 10:25 AM   #9
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Great looking shop, im starting the process on a 30x32, any advice would be great, could you post your plans. How many 110 and 220 etc. Thanks
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where in portland are you? im in beaverton on 185th and baseline.
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Old 08-29-2006, 05:34 PM   #11
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where in portland are you? im in beaverton on 185th and baseline.
That's what I want to know too! -So I can come over and work on my vehicles outta the rain when it starts!
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where in portland are you? im in beaverton on 185th and baseline.
I live in Cornelius. I live close to 20th and Baseline. If I wasn't so busy chasing bids and contractors I would say lets throw some stake on the BBQ and tip back some beer. We can do that when I am 100% up and running (shop) if I have any money left.

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Great looking shop, im starting the process on a 30x32, any advice would be great, could you post your plans. How many 110 and 220 etc. Thanks
The first thing I would tell you is build bigger if you can. Even at 30' by 50' it still seems like its going to be tight. But when you have 5 projects going in different stages any garage would be tight. I think the key is to make yourself as much storage space as you can i.e. ( Attic). Then keep it organized. My framers tell me that my shop is not a shop its a sherman tank without tracks. I built my shop so I can easily manipulate heavy parts and store them. I will be able to put a 700lb BBChevy in my attic and not worry about it falling on my head. But understand it all converts to how much dollar and cents you want to put into it. I also plan on putting an aluminum beam the entire length of the shop at the peak of the attic with a mobile chain hoist so I can move the heavy stuff without much effort. The permit stage of this game was an expensive one. Before I broke ground I had over $8,000 in permits including $2000 just to ask the city if I could build it in my backyard. I just hope there is not so much RED TAPE where you live. Are you going to be your own contractor and Sub Contract the project? If you are I would do all the bids first and when you get all your Sub Contractors I would get them together and have them coordinate with each other to cut down on them getting in each others ways. You dont want the Concrete guy there when the framers are there. You dont want the roofer there when your excavator is digging the utility ditch because the roofer will want to have his truck next to the garage and if there is a 4 foot ditch down the middle of the driveway he cant. About posting the plans I dont know how I could they are on realy big paper and wont fit on my scanner. Your probably going to want to get a set made because all your County and City inspectors will want to see them along with all your contractors. If you have any specific questions please feel free to ask and I will try to help if I can. To answer the 220/110 question probably 3 220 circuits and as many 110's as I can with what is left over in my 200 amp service. You have to remember one thing ( how often are you going to be running 3 (220 Circiuts) at one time. I need one for my Lift and One for my compressor and possibly one for a welder.
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I live in Cornelius. I live close to 20th and Baseline. If I wasn't so busy chasing bids and contractors I would say lets throw some stake on the BBQ and tip back some beer. We can do that when I am 100% up and running (shop) if I have any money left.

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Holy crap, eight grand in permits, that's ridiculous..... oh wait, your not allowed to pump your own gas in Oregon either, right?

Microsoft Project is an excellent tool for scheduling to avoid the issue of having contractors in each others way.

By the way what's four sack concrete cost per yard where you are?

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The first thing I would tell you is build bigger if you can. Even at 30' by 50' it still seems like its going to be tight. But when you have 5 projects going in different stages any garage would be tight. I think the key is to make yourself as much storage space as you can i.e. ( Attic). Then keep it organized. My framers tell me that my shop is not a shop its a sherman tank without tracks. I built my shop so I can easily manipulate heavy parts and store them. I will be able to put a 700lb BBChevy in my attic and not worry about it falling on my head. But understand it all converts to how much dollar and cents you want to put into it. I also plan on putting an aluminum beam the entire length of the shop at the peak of the attic with a mobile chain hoist so I can move the heavy stuff without much effort. The permit stage of this game was an expensive one. Before I broke ground I had over $8,000 in permits including $2000 just to ask the city if I could build it in my backyard. I just hope there is not so much RED TAPE where you live. Are you going to be your own contractor and Sub Contract the project? If you are I would do all the bids first and when you get all your Sub Contractors I would get them together and have them coordinate with each other to cut down on them getting in each others ways. You dont want the Concrete guy there when the framers are there. You dont want the roofer there when your excavator is digging the utility ditch because the roofer will want to have his truck next to the garage and if there is a 4 foot ditch down the middle of the driveway he cant. About posting the plans I dont know how I could they are on realy big paper and wont fit on my scanner. Your probably going to want to get a set made because all your County and City inspectors will want to see them along with all your contractors. If you have any specific questions please feel free to ask and I will try to help if I can. To answer the 220/110 question probably 3 220 circuits and as many 110's as I can with what is left over in my 200 amp service. You have to remember one thing ( how often are you going to be running 3 (220 Circiuts) at one time. I need one for my Lift and One for my compressor and possibly one for a welder.
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Old 08-31-2006, 12:14 AM   #16
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Holy crap, eight grand in permits, that's ridiculous..... oh wait, your not allowed to pump your own gas in Oregon either, right?

Microsoft Project is an excellent tool for scheduling to avoid the issue of having contractors in each others way.

By the way what's four sack concrete cost per yard where you are?
2.75 per square foot finished. But I found a guy that would do it for 2.50/Sq Ft. I was going to do my drive in ashfault but I have found that its going to cost as much as concrete so I am going concrete. I paid 1300 for for 11 yards when they poored my foot and stem wall.
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Wow Bruce! That's coming along well.
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Old 08-31-2006, 02:01 PM   #18
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Wow Bruce! That's coming along well.
Here are some more up to date pictures. My dog is liking the framing crew because they feed him cheeze nips. Or should I say he finds the ones they drop. I guess that is better than the ratcoons finding them.
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Did you consider a metal building? Thats the way to go here in my area. Of course most of our shops aren't insulated or anything, Im guessing yours will be.
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Old 08-31-2006, 02:42 PM   #20
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Did you consider a metal building? Thats the way to go here in my area. Of course most of our shops aren't insulated or anything, Im guessing yours will be.
I did at first consider Metal but when I figured out that the shop I wanted with the 2 ft eves was $22K I went and got bids for a stick built shop and it was let by $3K. Metal prices are up and here in Oregon it rains a lot so we need the eves. Also with all the moisture metal buildings tend to hold in a lot of moisture and leak so I went with Stick Built. And Yes I am going to insulate it R22 in the walls and R32 in the ceiling.

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