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GMCPerson · 09-05-2006, 08:33 AM

My 1967 C20 with a 327 has a spin on type oil filter. I think it is a conversion from the original can type filter but I am not sure. I purchased a Wix brand filter from NAPA that was supposed to fit. After the oil change, oil is leaking from around the filter. I noticed that the old filter was different than the new but did not think much of it when installing it.

Now the old filter has been taken away by the trash people and I do not know what the number was. Does anyone have a filter part number that works for the 327s? I prefer Fram but I should be able to convert any brand. Thanks, Paul

Yeller68 · 09-05-2006, 10:25 AM

Sorry can't help you with the Fram #, but my '68 307 which was converted from cartridge, to spin on on has a Purolator L20049 on it.

Green Machine · 09-05-2006, 11:57 AM

The kits I have seen use either the common Chevy filter or some use a F*rd filter, the common older v8 F*rd filters. I think the Wix # for a F*rd V8 is 1515 ???

67ChevyRedneck · 09-05-2006, 01:06 PM

Don't know if this will help or not, but for the older 350's the Fram number is PH5, I don't see why a 327 would be different?

Longhorn Man · 09-05-2006, 04:05 PM

a 1060 NAPA filter fits normal old school small blocks, if there is an adapter involved, there's no tellin.

However, putting a fram filter on there is the absolute worst you can do in oil filter selection. They put money into adgertising instead oif filtering media. There andi drain back valve is junk (doesn't matter on these engines though) but the filtering media is not nearly enough.
I'm not saying that your engine will blow up if you spin one on there, BUT, I am pointing out that most of the automakers (including ALL of the big 3) had charges filed against them by Fram. They all knew what junk fram was putting out, and were turning away waranty work for blown engines stating a junk oil filter. (only brand filter that they were doing this to)
And, I'll also say, if you were to call ANY indipendant oil lab anywhere in the US, they'll agree with everything I just typed.

Fram sucks.

cdowns · 09-05-2006, 04:25 PM

instead of tryin to matchup oil filters it maybe cheaper and take less time to just buy a new adapter with the proper filter// any auto parts store should have them in stock i prefer NAPA OR CARQUEST for these types of items

jsbgump · 09-05-2006, 04:43 PM

Fram Is JUNK!!!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Longhorn Man

a 1060 NAPA filter fits normal old school small blocks, if there is an adapter involved, there's no tellin.

However, putting a fram filter on there is the absolute worst you can do in oil filter selection. They put money into adgertising instead oif filtering media. There andi drain back valve is junk (doesn't matter on these engines though) but the filtering media is not nearly enough.
I'm not saying that your engine will blow up if you spin one on there, BUT, I am pointing out that most of the automakers (including ALL of the big 3) had charges filed against them by Fram. They all knew what junk fram was putting out, and were turning away waranty work for blown engines stating a junk oil filter. (only brand filter that they were doing this to)
And, I'll also say, if you were to call ANY indipendant oil lab anywhere in the US, they'll agree with everything I just typed.

Fram sucks.

**truckdude239** · 09-05-2006, 05:48 PM

i lost an engine in my van from a fram filter had carbborad in it that gave out

**VetteVet** · 09-05-2006, 06:35 PM

I seem to remember the Fram spin on was PH8-A . Napa gave me a 1061 for my 350. It's the wix equivalent. I gotta believe your adapter is bad or the filter was over tightened.

**kwmech** · 09-05-2006, 10:22 PM

The adaptor on my 68 GMC takes a ford filter napa 1515

da-burb · 09-05-2006, 11:35 PM

The adaptor I had on my old SB chev used the "one size fit all Fords" back in the 60's and 70's. If memory serves me correctly, the Ford # was the FL-1A with the old numbering system. The Silver Napa filter is the 21515 aka 1515.

GMCPerson · 09-06-2006, 09:38 AM

Thanks for the information. I will look into the Ford Filter. I also found a new adapter and filter at LMC. It is less then $20.00 so it may be worth it. I tried a few other suppliers but can not find one anywhere else. I hate to order from them since I have not heard many good things about their service but it is always fun to gamble right?

I have also heard negative things about Fram. I still need to cut one open and look inside. I work for GM and have been involved in developing field fixes. 20 years ago, GM recommended Fram since their filter helped cold start knock. Now I have heard that they got really cheap and are the worst. I may try and cut up a few filters myself and compare the media to see if there really is a difference. With global sourcing do we really know who makes what part and where they are made? I shy away from Delco since one may be made in US and the "identical" one next to it is made in China. They are the same but different. When I get around to my experiment, I will try and take pictures for all to see. Paul

VinceY · 09-06-2006, 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 67ChevyRedneck

Don't know if this will help or not, but for the older 350's the Fram number is PH5, I don't see why a 327 would be different?

I have a 327 (not sure what year it was from) in my truck and I am 98% sure that I have a PH5 oil filter on it.

Longhorn Man · 09-06-2006, 05:14 PM

Before I knew about fram being junk, i ran a PH13.

A great filter to use is the Napa gold. They are made by WIX, and are not seconds or anything, they are simply rebadged (as is lots of NAPA stuff). It is pretty much the best for the money.

lukecp · 09-06-2006, 06:13 PM

IIRC, the Wix filters for a SBC are 51060 with drainback valve, and 51061 without a drainback valve. But its been awhile since I've bought one. I always by Wix filters for my vehicles, although for whatever reason they have been black for a year or so now...
No NAPA's around here so no NAPA parts.

badpeanut · 09-06-2006, 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GMCPerson

When I get around to my experiment, I will try and take pictures for all to see.

Some of this has been done: http://minimopar.knizefamily.net/oilfilterstudy.html

1969 GMC · 09-06-2006, 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Longhorn Man

A great filter to use is the Napa gold. They are made by WIX, and are not seconds or anything, they are simply rebadged (as is lots of NAPA stuff). It is pretty much the best for the money.

Same with the premium Carquest filters. They say "made in the USA by Wix" a couple different places on the box.

Longhorn Man · 09-07-2006, 12:47 AM

Wow... i did not know that.

GMCPerson · 09-07-2006, 06:39 AM

Nice information on the oil filter website. Thanks for sharing. Paul

wibilly · 09-08-2006, 09:16 AM

napa had two filters cut open on the counter the other day one fram and a napa gold after seeing this i will never use another fram, ever, on anything

Steelawork'n · 09-08-2006, 09:52 AM

Wow, glad I have a WIX dealer just down the road.

Yeller68 · 09-08-2006, 10:03 AM

All it took for me to kick the fram habit, was to hold a fram in one hand, and a purolator in the other. The fram felt like a empty tin can, while the purolator felt solid, and weighed a good bit more.

09-05-2006, 08:33 AM	#1
GMCPerson Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Milford, MI Posts: 192	1967 327 Spin on Oil Filter number? My 1967 C20 with a 327 has a spin on type oil filter. I think it is a conversion from the original can type filter but I am not sure. I purchased a Wix brand filter from NAPA that was supposed to fit. After the oil change, oil is leaking from around the filter. I noticed that the old filter was different than the new but did not think much of it when installing it. Now the old filter has been taken away by the trash people and I do not know what the number was. Does anyone have a filter part number that works for the 327s? I prefer Fram but I should be able to convert any brand. Thanks, Paul

09-05-2006, 10:25 AM	#2
Yeller68 Active Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Villa Rica, Ga Posts: 297	Re: 1967 327 Spin on Oil Filter number? Sorry can't help you with the Fram #, but my '68 307 which was converted from cartridge, to spin on on has a Purolator L20049 on it.

09-05-2006, 11:57 AM	#3
Green Machine Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Estherville, Iowa Posts: 3,371	Re: 1967 327 Spin on Oil Filter number? The kits I have seen use either the common Chevy filter or some use a Frd filter, the common older v8 Frd filters. I think the Wix # for a Frd V8 is 1515 ??? __________________ 1968 C10 307 3spd Long Fleet ------* http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=201103 1970 C10 305 Super T10 Long Fleet --- http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=202285 1971 C20 383 TH350 Dana Posi ----- http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=206894 2001 GMC Sierra 1500 C3 6.0

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09-05-2006, 04:05 PM	#5
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,690	Re: 1967 327 Spin on Oil Filter number? a 1060 NAPA filter fits normal old school small blocks, if there is an adapter involved, there's no tellin. However, putting a fram filter on there is the absolute worst you can do in oil filter selection. They put money into adgertising instead oif filtering media. There andi drain back valve is junk (doesn't matter on these engines though) but the filtering media is not nearly enough. I'm not saying that your engine will blow up if you spin one on there, BUT, I am pointing out that most of the automakers (including ALL of the big 3) had charges filed against them by Fram. They all knew what junk fram was putting out, and were turning away waranty work for blown engines stating a junk oil filter. (only brand filter that they were doing this to) And, I'll also say, if you were to call ANY indipendant oil lab anywhere in the US, they'll agree with everything I just typed. Fram sucks.

09-05-2006, 04:25 PM	#6
cdowns Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: daytonabeach Posts: 22,956	Re: 1967 327 Spin on Oil Filter number? instead of tryin to matchup oil filters it maybe cheaper and take less time to just buy a new adapter with the proper filter// any auto parts store should have them in stock i prefer NAPA OR CARQUEST for these types of items __________________ 71c-10 350/2004r/4:11 lowered3/4 longbed/dead by hurricane MEANING OF DEATH::::: SOMEBODY ELSE GETS YOUR STUFF DONT BELIEVE EVERYTHING YOU THINK TAKE MY ADVISE;I DON'T USE IT ANYWAY

09-05-2006, 05:48 PM	#8
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VetteVet Msgt USAF Ret Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Kalamazoo, Michigan Posts: 8,718	Re: 1967 327 Spin on Oil Filter number? I seem to remember the Fram spin on was PH8-A . Napa gave me a 1061 for my 350. It's the wix equivalent. I gotta believe your adapter is bad or the filter was over tightened. __________________ VetteVet metallic green 67 stepside 74 corvette convertible 1965 Harley sportster 1995 Harley wide glide Growing old is hell, but it beats the alternative.

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kwmech Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Colfax-California Posts: 8,630	Re: 1967 327 Spin on Oil Filter number? The adaptor on my 68 GMC takes a ford filter napa 1515

09-05-2006, 11:35 PM	#11
da-burb "Ochre Ogre" Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Springfield, MN Posts: 3,558	Re: 1967 327 Spin on Oil Filter number? The adaptor I had on my old SB chev used the "one size fit all Fords" back in the 60's and 70's. If memory serves me correctly, the Ford # was the FL-1A with the old numbering system. The Silver Napa filter is the 21515 aka 1515. __________________ Bowtie Truck Stop Inc. Mid-West GM Truck Restoration Parts Supplier Your Key Parts, Auto Metal Direct, Dynacorn, and Goodmark dealer. like us @ www.facebook.com/BowtieTruckStop 1971 C-10 Suburban (Ochre) 1971 K-10 Suburban (Ochre) 1972 C-10 Suburban (Ochre) 1972 K-20 Suburban (Yellow- that just aint right!) Springfield, Minnesota 56087

09-06-2006, 09:38 AM	#12
GMCPerson Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Milford, MI Posts: 192	Re: 1967 327 Spin on Oil Filter number? Thanks for the information. I will look into the Ford Filter. I also found a new adapter and filter at LMC. It is less then $20.00 so it may be worth it. I tried a few other suppliers but can not find one anywhere else. I hate to order from them since I have not heard many good things about their service but it is always fun to gamble right? I have also heard negative things about Fram. I still need to cut one open and look inside. I work for GM and have been involved in developing field fixes. 20 years ago, GM recommended Fram since their filter helped cold start knock. Now I have heard that they got really cheap and are the worst. I may try and cut up a few filters myself and compare the media to see if there really is a difference. With global sourcing do we really know who makes what part and where they are made? I shy away from Delco since one may be made in US and the "identical" one next to it is made in China. They are the same but different. When I get around to my experiment, I will try and take pictures for all to see. Paul

09-06-2006, 05:14 PM	#14
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,690	Re: 1967 327 Spin on Oil Filter number? Before I knew about fram being junk, i ran a PH13. A great filter to use is the Napa gold. They are made by WIX, and are not seconds or anything, they are simply rebadged (as is lots of NAPA stuff). It is pretty much the best for the money.

09-06-2006, 06:13 PM	#15
lukecp Formerly yellow72custom Join Date: May 2001 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 7,531	Re: 1967 327 Spin on Oil Filter number? IIRC, the Wix filters for a SBC are 51060 with drainback valve, and 51061 without a drainback valve. But its been awhile since I've bought one. I always by Wix filters for my vehicles, although for whatever reason they have been black for a year or so now... No NAPA's around here so no NAPA parts. __________________ '72 Chevy C10 Mild 350/TH350/3.07. Ochre/White. Old high school ride. '70 GMC C2500 '62 327 4bbl/SM465/4.56-geared Dana 60. White/White. Project or parts truck. '97 Saturn SL DD. 1.9/5-speed. 40+ highway mpg

09-07-2006, 12:47 AM	#18
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,690	Re: 1967 327 Spin on Oil Filter number? Wow... i did not know that.

09-07-2006, 06:39 AM	#19
GMCPerson Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Milford, MI Posts: 192	Re: 1967 327 Spin on Oil Filter number? Nice information on the oil filter website. Thanks for sharing. Paul



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09-08-2006, 09:16 AM	#20
wibilly Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: northwestern wi Posts: 2,111	Re: 1967 327 Spin on Oil Filter number? napa had two filters cut open on the counter the other day one fram and a napa gold after seeing this i will never use another fram, ever, on anything __________________ common sense isn't so common anymore

09-08-2006, 09:52 AM	#21
Steelawork'n Just hang'n around Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Camano Island WA Posts: 248	Re: 1967 327 Spin on Oil Filter number? Wow, glad I have a WIX dealer just down the road. __________________ Driving a '68 Chevy C20 and a '93 Astro Van. Lots and lots of mileage that I deduct each year.

09-08-2006, 10:03 AM	#22
Yeller68 Active Member Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Villa Rica, Ga Posts: 297	Re: 1967 327 Spin on Oil Filter number? All it took for me to kick the fram habit, was to hold a fram in one hand, and a purolator in the other. The fram felt like a empty tin can, while the purolator felt solid, and weighed a good bit more.

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