my 75 frame off..

[75shortysocal]

whats up?!...

im still in the process of restoring my 69 camaro, as well as my 84 z28, 69 corvette motor..


and heres my old truck that tryd to kill me on the 405...


wheel bearing went out on my at around 12:30 pm on the 405..i was doing about 75 mph...spun out about 3 times from the fast lane to the slow lane....somehow i didnt hit anybody..


heres what my 69 camaro looks like as of today..



and the reason im here, and my next project...here it is....i paid 500 bucks for this as is, no motor......i pulled the 350 4 bolt out of my white truck before i junked it, and set it in my new shortbed...

my plans for my 75 shortbed...

1) frame off
2) slam
3) one piece back window
4) 454/400 trans








i need to know what i need to slam my truck......4 front 6 rear?...

anybody know what componants ill need?....do i need lowering springs? or just spindles?

this s*it is confusing!

[krue]

Welcome to the board from South Mississippi!

[bigblock73]

Welcome to the board from MN.

Truck looks nice, will even look much nicer lowered. To acheive your 4/6 drop, you can use 3" drop spindles up front with 1" drop coil springs. In the rear, you can use a flip kit plus drop shackles or lowering blocks.

Hope this helps some.

[1974gmc]

nice truck! id go with 2" springs, 3"spindles, axle flip with 2" shackles

[Slonaker]

I have to add my usual line about spindles. The 3" drop spindles will probably not clear your wheels if you have 15" wheels unless you do some ginding on the caliper and/or the lower control arm (LCA).. Western Chassis has 2.5" spindles that clear my 15" Rally wheels with no problems.

Slonaker

[nivimar]

Nice projects I also have a 3rd gen camaro ,RS though HEHE. 4/6 drop rims and tires.should get you going.GL

[75shortysocal]

thanx fellas.......i forgot to mention, i just want to use the 4x4 rallys....

[N2TRUX]

Originally Posted by 75shortysocal;

thanx fellas.......i forgot to mention, i just want to use the 4x4 rallys....

4x4 rallys are 6 lug wheels. You have 5 lug hubs... If you are going to run 15's of any kind then go with a 2.5" spindle. Your better off with a 3" spindle and a 17"+ wheel....

[AspecialZ]

You need to look into a DJM suspension system. It will have everything you need.

Originally Posted by 75shortysocal;

whats up?!...

i need to know what i need to slam my truck......4 front 6 rear?...

anybody know what componants ill need?....do i need lowering springs? or just spindles?

this s*it is confusing!

[84Custom]

Chisholm Suspensions has a nice kit comes with everything.I got a 4-6 kit on my truck.Located in Santa Fe Springs Ca.

[75shortysocal]

Originally Posted by 84Custom

Chisholm Suspensions has a nice kit comes with everything.I got a 4-6 kit on my truck.Located in Santa Fe Springs Ca.

thats what im talkin about!....got a link? or pix of your truck stance?

Originally Posted by AspecialZ

You need to look into a DJM suspension system. It will have everything you need.

i looked at them...couldnt find a good kit with EVERYTHING i would need... got a link?

Originally Posted by N2TRUX

4x4 rallys are 6 lug wheels. You have 5 lug hubs... If you are going to run 15's of any kind then go with a 2.5" spindle. Your better off with a 3" spindle and a 17"+ wheel....

hmmm, im not sure what style rim im talking about...its a truck rally wheel, with ring and cap....are those all the same back spacing?

[84Custom]

[QUOTE=75shortysocal;1792652]thats what im talkin about!....got a link? or pix of your truck stance?

I couldn't find a link tried www.chisholm1.com,but it wouldn't open.Here is their phone #562-946-3183 my kit came with re-arched rear leafs and shackles(not a flip kit)upper and lower tubular control arms,front springs and front and rear shocks.Here is a pic of my trucks stance,hope this helps and good luck.

[75shortysocal]

[QUOTE=84Custom;1792714]

Originally Posted by 75shortysocal

thats what im talkin about!....got a link? or pix of your truck stance?

I couldn't find a link tried www.chisholm1.com,but it wouldn't open.Here is their phone #562-946-3183 my kit came with re-arched rear leafs and shackles(not a flip kit)upper and lower tubular control arms,front springs and front and rear shocks.Here is a pic of my trucks stance,hope this helps and good luck.

thanx!.......yea, i live real close to Santa fe springs...do you ever bottom out or scrape the lower arms in the front?...and are those wheels and tires on the truck bigger then the rally's?

[boxrodz]

You can achieve a 4-6 drop like 84Custom has or you can go a more popular route like some of the guys have mentioned:

In front, if you plan on retaining your 15" wheel, you may want to go with a 2 1/2" drop spindle. This will avoid any clearance problems between the 15" wheel and the LCA like Slonaker mentioned. Going with a drop spindle also maintains the geometry of the front suspension. Then, add 1 1/2" drop coils. Western Chassis offers both items. When ordering drop spindles, you'll need to know whether or not you have heavy duty brakes by measuring the thickness of the brake rotor. Your brake rotors will measure out at either 1" or 1 1/4" where 1 1/4" is the heavy duty brake system.

In the rear, a flip kit which flips the axle from under the leaf spring to above the lift spring pack would give you a ~5" drop. The flip kit includes brackets that also realigns the pinion angle and maintains the proper drive shaft spacing after the drop. Shock extenders may be included to extend the lowered shock length and retain the some shock angle. Installing the flip kit is relatively simple, aside from having to remove snubber mount (rivets). To drop the rear even lower, using drop shackles like Jeff and 74gmc suggests are common. However, installing the drop shackle may involve notching the rear sill bracket of the bed floor for clearance. To avoid this clearance issue, lowering blocks may be used instead to avoid any clearance issues. Lowering block kits come with the lowering block in various drop ranges (1", 2", ...) and longer U-bolts. DJM offers the flip kip, drop shackles and/or lowering block kits. In the end, you will want to maintain, at least 3" clearance between the axle tube and the frame rail. Otherwise, you may need to notch the frame rail and install a C-notch kit. To determine the axle tube -to- frame rail clearance prior to your drop:

• measure the distance between the bottom of the frame rail and the top of the axle tube,

• then measure the distance between the bottom of the axle tube and the top of the leaf spring pack,

• the difference between the two measurements is the clearance you'll end up with less a 1/4" or so for the thickness of the bracket.

As a alternative, in the front, you can go with a 3" drop spindle instead of the 2 1/2" drop spindle if you intend on running larger wheels (> 15"). Dropped LCAs are also available but should not be used in combination with dropped spindles. You could also run bags, plates and cups instead of a drop spring for ride comfort and adjustability. In the rear, lowered leaf springs, drop hangers/shackles are also available for these trucks. BTW, it is also possible to cut the stock coil spring in front to get the drop of a lowered spring and de-arch the rear spring pack to obtain the drop of lowered leaf springs. With a lowered stance, drop shocks for the front and the rear may be needed.

On a drop of 4/6 (or 5/7), check the backspacing of the wheels you plan on running to avoid any rubbing on the fender wells. Also, expect some LCA damage unless you drive cautiously on rough roads, over speed bumps, entrances, ...

Belltech, DJM and Western Chassis all make lowering components for these trucks. You can visit truckshop.com, stylinconcepts.com, sporttruckdirect.com, performancesuspension.com, macssprings.com to name a few to order the items you need.

Good luck on your build-up (er, down).

[84Custom]

[/QUOTE]thanx!.......yea, i live real close to Santa fe springs...do you ever bottom out or scrape the lower arms in the front?...and are those wheels and tires on the truck bigger then the rally's?[/QUOTE]

I've never had it bottom out or scrape in the front.The tires are P275/60 R15,and the wheels are 15x7's all around.

[70-Chevy]

Welcome to the board, nice rides man.

[75shortysocal]

thank you guys,

im going to go look at a 66 shortbed running for 400 bucks!!

ill get some pix.

[bigarmzz]

heres what my 69 camaro looks like as of today..



wow , i'd cut my left nut off with a dull butterknife for that 69' body