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timcos · 10-01-2006, 09:59 PM

OK...I found this underneath the bumper on my "new" truck.

It says right on it that is has a 1500 pound load limit.

SO google "Dayton 6X191" and I find
http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/wwg...mId=1611575411

The grainger page says the load is 3000 pounds vertical lift max. What exactly is that?

I am sure they must have updated the model.

DO I need this thing? I mean I know what a winch is used for. If I am using it to get me out of a ditch...1500 pounds is not enough. Right?

It also says that the full load current is 220 amps. I know I do not have a 220 AMP alternator.

I guess what I am saying is that I am a but ignorant on these.

Thanks,

Tim

*trkklr77* · 10-01-2006, 10:47 PM

1500-3000 lbs is absolutely useless as a recovery tool, BUT it would make a hell of a bed loading winch, pulling rolling vehicles on to trailers, quads in to the back of the truck, with a over head pully for loading axles/motors/parts in to the bed.

most 8000lbs winchs draw more than 350amps, but you do not need a matching alt. the higher you alt out put the quicker it will recover recharge the battery after winch use. the winch pulls power directly from the battery and that is where 85% of its power comes from, yes a better alt will make your winch work better, but a high amp battery will allow you to pull repeatedly with out having to wait for it to be charged up again.

Fred T · 10-01-2006, 10:59 PM

Single cable load of 1,500 lb. The winch will lift a 3000 lb load using a double cable. That means you run the cable from the winch to the object, through a pulley (snatch block) and back to the winch. If you add another snatch block at the winch and at the object, you have a multiplier of 4, so you can lift 6,000 lb. It also will use twice as much cable length with a double cable, meaning it will take twice as long to lift.

It takes far more force to pull a truck out of the mud than the weight of the truck. Usually the force of the winch is enough when added to the power applied through the truck's wheels to move the truck.

As for the current rating, the winch should be connected to the battery with heavy cables. It will deplete the battery if powered for very long, since your alternator cannot provide enough current.

I googled winching basics. The first hit was this. http://www.4wdandsportutility.com/te...nching_basics/

**special-K** · 10-02-2006, 06:15 AM

I thinkit was used to hoist your snowplow or maybe move the boat or trailer he hauled.

10-01-2006, 09:59 PM	#1
timcos Chief Honcho In Charge Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Bentonville AR Posts: 970	Some info help on Dayton Winch OK...I found this underneath the bumper on my "new" truck. It says right on it that is has a 1500 pound load limit. SO google "Dayton 6X191" and I find http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/wwg...mId=1611575411 The grainger page says the load is 3000 pounds vertical lift max. What exactly is that? I am sure they must have updated the model. DO I need this thing? I mean I know what a winch is used for. If I am using it to get me out of a ditch...1500 pounds is not enough. Right? It also says that the full load current is 220 amps. I know I do not have a 220 AMP alternator. I guess what I am saying is that I am a but ignorant on these. Thanks, Tim Attached Images __________________ 1992 1500 4x4 Shortbed 1984 Ford F250 Supercab Longbed 6.9L Diesel 1972 K10 Cheyenne Super Fleetside Short Bed - 350 - A/C 1971 VW SuperBeetle 1960 Wife 1984 Son 1986 Son 1989 Son Previous Trucks 1967 C10 SWB (1980-1981) 1971 C10 LWB (1998-2004) Last edited by timcos; 10-01-2006 at 10:05 PM.

10-01-2006, 10:47 PM	#2
trkklr77 Account Suspended Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: vacaville ca, because it as far from indy as i can be Posts: 775	Re: Some info help on Dayton Winch 1500-3000 lbs is absolutely useless as a recovery tool, BUT it would make a hell of a bed loading winch, pulling rolling vehicles on to trailers, quads in to the back of the truck, with a over head pully for loading axles/motors/parts in to the bed. most 8000lbs winchs draw more than 350amps, but you do not need a matching alt. the higher you alt out put the quicker it will recover recharge the battery after winch use. the winch pulls power directly from the battery and that is where 85% of its power comes from, yes a better alt will make your winch work better, but a high amp battery will allow you to pull repeatedly with out having to wait for it to be charged up again.

10-01-2006, 10:59 PM	#3
Fred T Cantankerous Geezer Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Bel Aire, KS Posts: 6,264	Re: Some info help on Dayton Winch Single cable load of 1,500 lb. The winch will lift a 3000 lb load using a double cable. That means you run the cable from the winch to the object, through a pulley (snatch block) and back to the winch. If you add another snatch block at the winch and at the object, you have a multiplier of 4, so you can lift 6,000 lb. It also will use twice as much cable length with a double cable, meaning it will take twice as long to lift. It takes far more force to pull a truck out of the mud than the weight of the truck. Usually the force of the winch is enough when added to the power applied through the truck's wheels to move the truck. As for the current rating, the winch should be connected to the battery with heavy cables. It will deplete the battery if powered for very long, since your alternator cannot provide enough current. I googled winching basics. The first hit was this. http://www.4wdandsportutility.com/te...nching_basics/ __________________ Fred There is no such thing as too much cam...just not enough engine.

10-02-2006, 06:15 AM	#4
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