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canso · 02-28-2002, 04:06 PM

I have heard people are putting different gearing in the older steering boxes to speed them up. I wanted to gear it closer to a new truck so you don't have to turn it as much. Does any one know where I can buy these parts. Thanks

Frank_Zeller · 02-28-2002, 04:10 PM

Email I sent to: http://www.powersteering.com/products/

I have a 69 Chevy Pick up. Would like to get a quick ratio PS box. What are my options?

Thanks
Frank

Frank, I can supply you with a 16:1 ratio gearbox (yours should be a 24:1) for $189.00 exchanged. + shipping. Includes a lifetime warranty. Thanks Chip 417-864-6676

[This message has been edited by Frank_Zeller (edited February 28, 2002).]

jku72 · 02-28-2002, 05:11 PM

Cool, my nerdy steering is mocked by people who only drive newer cars, they say it is way too squishy, it would be awesome to have a quicker turner!!!

BubbaGreen · 02-28-2002, 09:01 PM

Also might want to check out
http://www.agrperformance.com/agr

They have a variable ratio gear box for
our trucks, supposedly gives the feeling
of modern steering. Also has 3-1/2 turns
lock to lock over the stockers of 4-1/2 turns lock to lock...Either way, goodluck.
AGR parts are more expensive and I think they
only have a 90-day warranty...but ask.

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71 Chevy C-10 SWB Fleetside WAS:307w/3-on-the-tree NOW:350TBI/700R4/3.73
See it at www.prismnet.com/~grzanich

imdarren · 02-28-2002, 09:05 PM

AGR is the place to look. They have "Variable" ratio steering boxes. At about $350.00 they aint cheap!! But you get what you pay for. Darren

jku72 · 03-03-2002, 12:26 PM

I dont think that is that expensive for a steering box, plus converting a truck to one that is controlable is worth a little extra. I know I let my friends drive my very nice longhorn, and they all ask me if the front end is all loose. I tell them no, that is the factory mush steering. I would pay that for tighter steering.

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jku
70 C30 CST Longhorn
68k10 burb
69 K5 beater
43 willys GPW
40 Chev coupe
67 catalina

O'l Buck · 03-03-2002, 01:36 PM

save money??? I haven't checked on this yet, but I understand the steering gear from a mid 70's lwb crew cab will fit our pickups, they should have a better ratio, a buddy of mine did it on his rock crawler(74 blazer)

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'72 Chevy 1/2T 4x4 shortbox stepside 350/350auto on '84
ralleys and 31/10.5s

67 Cutlass convertible
330, 3spd stick

90 GMC Jimmy
350/auto
Chad Stephens
Orleans,NE

ugly · 10-04-2006, 02:38 AM

I have a 72 with BBC, th400, np205. The PO did the swap and pounded the heck out of the fire wall. It fits, but tight. I have been told by another builder that the right way is to move the motor and drive train forward by 2", then no need for a body lift.

Also, the headman headers either require a 1/4"x2" chop out of the top frame rails, or move the motor forward to clear the frame rail.

I recently bought tall covers for roller rockers, but have not gotten the motor back from rebuild, so no news on that one.

My motor should be back next week.

see the photo below for fire wall mod, not a great photo.

junkyardjohn · 10-04-2006, 03:51 AM

WHAT THE HECK DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH THE STEERING BOX???

JOHN

ghetto_superman · 10-04-2006, 04:19 AM

haha i was thinkin the same thing

Bob Moore · 10-04-2006, 05:10 PM

Guys - the 73 to 82(?) pick-up PS gear is usually variable ratio and 3 1/2 turns lock to lock - the same as the AGR boxes - and a lot cheaper. There is no difference in 1/2 or 3/4 T boxes. I am not sure when GM changed to the metric fittings - it may have been after 82.

My recommendation is to pick one up at your local junk yard. Look for a clean one - no leaks.

see ten · 10-04-2006, 05:55 PM

I have the Early Classic quick ratio box. It took out a full turn lock to lock, but again, not cheap. And yes a 2wd box all the way up to 87 will work but after a certain year the lines are metric.

02-28-2002, 04:06 PM	#1
canso Registered User Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 92	I have heard people are putting different gearing in the older steering boxes to speed them up. I wanted to gear it closer to a new truck so you don't have to turn it as much. Does any one know where I can buy these parts. Thanks Last edited by krue; 10-25-2006 at 01:52 AM.

02-28-2002, 04:10 PM	#2
Frank_Zeller Registered User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 796	Email I sent to: http://www.powersteering.com/products/ I have a 69 Chevy Pick up. Would like to get a quick ratio PS box. What are my options? Thanks Frank Frank, I can supply you with a 16:1 ratio gearbox (yours should be a 24:1) for $189.00 exchanged. + shipping. Includes a lifetime warranty. Thanks Chip 417-864-6676 [This message has been edited by Frank_Zeller (edited February 28, 2002).] __________________ 69 SWB C/10 5-6 drop 700R4 69 Firebird Convert 455 4 spd 70 Torino GT Convert Austin-Texas

02-28-2002, 05:11 PM	#3
jku72 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: cornville, maine Posts: 659	Cool, my nerdy steering is mocked by people who only drive newer cars, they say it is way too squishy, it would be awesome to have a quicker turner!!! __________________ jku Cornville, Maine 68 C10 burb 42 Willys MB 46 Dodge WF-32 1.5 ton 53 & 56 Olds' 60 Cadillac 22 Dodge Brothers

02-28-2002, 09:01 PM	#4
BubbaGreen Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Cedar Park, TX Posts: 686	Also might want to check out http://www.agrperformance.com/agr They have a variable ratio gear box for our trucks, supposedly gives the feeling of modern steering. Also has 3-1/2 turns lock to lock over the stockers of 4-1/2 turns lock to lock...Either way, goodluck. AGR parts are more expensive and I think they only have a 90-day warranty...but ask. ------------------ 71 Chevy C-10 SWB Fleetside WAS:307w/3-on-the-tree NOW:350TBI/700R4/3.73 See it at www.prismnet.com/~grzanich __________________ 71 Chevy C-10 SWB Fleetside RamJet-350/4L60e & Compushift/3.73Posi See it at www.prismnet.com/~grzanich

02-28-2002, 09:05 PM	#5
imdarren Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: SW Washington Posts: 1,006	AGR is the place to look. They have "Variable" ratio steering boxes. At about $350.00 they aint cheap!! But you get what you pay for. Darren __________________ Washington State 1967 Chevy C10 LWB Rodstoration In Progress. 1972 K20 Cheyenne Super

03-03-2002, 12:26 PM	#6
jku72 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: cornville, maine Posts: 659	I dont think that is that expensive for a steering box, plus converting a truck to one that is controlable is worth a little extra. I know I let my friends drive my very nice longhorn, and they all ask me if the front end is all loose. I tell them no, that is the factory mush steering. I would pay that for tighter steering. ------------------ jku 70 C30 CST Longhorn 68k10 burb 69 K5 beater 43 willys GPW 40 Chev coupe 67 catalina __________________ jku Cornville, Maine 68 C10 burb 42 Willys MB 46 Dodge WF-32 1.5 ton 53 & 56 Olds' 60 Cadillac 22 Dodge Brothers

03-03-2002, 01:36 PM	#7
O'l Buck Recovering Truck Driver Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Orleans, NE USA Posts: 1,883	save money??? I haven't checked on this yet, but I understand the steering gear from a mid 70's lwb crew cab will fit our pickups, they should have a better ratio, a buddy of mine did it on his rock crawler(74 blazer) ------------------ '72 Chevy 1/2T 4x4 shortbox stepside 350/350auto on '84 ralleys and 31/10.5s 67 Cutlass convertible 330, 3spd stick 90 GMC Jimmy 350/auto Chad Stephens Orleans,NE __________________ 67 K-20 350, SM465, Eaton rear, 4.56 no spin option 00 Dodge 2500 4x4, 24V cummins, 5 speed Chad South Central Nebraska

10-04-2006, 02:38 AM	#8
ugly Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 28	Re: steering box gearing question I have a 72 with BBC, th400, np205. The PO did the swap and pounded the heck out of the fire wall. It fits, but tight. I have been told by another builder that the right way is to move the motor and drive train forward by 2", then no need for a body lift. Also, the headman headers either require a 1/4"x2" chop out of the top frame rails, or move the motor forward to clear the frame rail. I recently bought tall covers for roller rockers, but have not gotten the motor back from rebuild, so no news on that one. My motor should be back next week. see the photo below for fire wall mod, not a great photo. Attached Images

10-04-2006, 03:51 AM	#9
junkyardjohn Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: SOMERSET KY. Posts: 6,425	Re: steering box gearing question WHAT THE HECK DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH THE STEERING BOX??? JOHN __________________ junkyardjohn 69 1 TON TOW TRUCK // 84 4WD CUCV BLAZER// 85 1 TON 4WD STAKE TRUCK// 86 M1031 5/4 TON 4WD CUCV// ALOT OF OLD TRUCKS FOR ONE OLD MAN TO DRIVE. THERES ROOM FOR ALL OF GODS CREATURES RIGHT NEXT TO MY MASHED POTATOES// LIFE MEMBER OF P.E.T.A (PEOPLE EATING TASTY ANIMALS) DON'T RENT U-HAUL ALWAYS TELL THE TRUTH IT WILL AMAZE PART OF THE PEOPLE & ASTONISH THE REST

10-04-2006, 04:19 AM	#10
ghetto_superman Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Omaha, NE Posts: 1,982	Re: steering box gearing question haha i was thinkin the same thing

10-04-2006, 05:10 PM	#11
Bob Moore Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Tacoma WA Posts: 1,365	Re: steering box gearing question Guys - the 73 to 82(?) pick-up PS gear is usually variable ratio and 3 1/2 turns lock to lock - the same as the AGR boxes - and a lot cheaper. There is no difference in 1/2 or 3/4 T boxes. I am not sure when GM changed to the metric fittings - it may have been after 82. My recommendation is to pick one up at your local junk yard. Look for a clean one - no leaks. __________________ 67 C-20 LWB, tilt, speed alert, vac, 454, T400 67 C-10 SWB, factory air with more to follow

10-04-2006, 05:55 PM	#12
see ten WTB this ad Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Lafayette Georgia Posts: 5,074	Re: steering box gearing question I have the Early Classic quick ratio box. It took out a full turn lock to lock, but again, not cheap. And yes a 2wd box all the way up to 87 will work but after a certain year the lines are metric.



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