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timcos · 10-01-2006, 09:42 PM

And do I need it...how do I use it. What is it connected to?

Thanks,

Tim

northerngmc · 10-01-2006, 09:45 PM

It is an electronic brake controller for controlling electric brakes on a trailer.

Do you pull a trailer? If yes then you need it.

There should be a power wire coming to it and then a lead wire going back to the trailer plug.

timcos · 10-01-2006, 10:07 PM

I do not have a trailer...but now I know what it is for...any place I can get an instruction book?

msgross · 10-01-2006, 10:17 PM

Does it move when you brake? Ours use to and you could push it yourself to engage the trailer brakes.

Fred T · 10-01-2006, 10:39 PM

If it's connected to the brake system, every time you apply the brakes the lever moves, sending a signal to the electric trailer brakes. And you can apply the trailer brakes manually by moving the lever. Never saw a manual for them.

pritch · 10-01-2006, 10:47 PM

I've had one of those in my hands lately-I just went out to see if I could find it-I might have tossed it. I'm real sure it was that same brand-I wonder if that was a brand that the dealers used nationwide or just the dealers in Utah. The donor I that had the one I had never left the State. (I'm assuming your truck is a Utah truck since your a Utah guy.) Hey from Coalville, BTW

mbgmike · 10-01-2006, 10:49 PM

That was a real popular model. you twist the level clockwise to change the braking force. Unless you pulling a large trailer with brakes you won't need it but you never know. The new kinds are a little more advanced.
mike

timcos · 10-01-2006, 11:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pritch

I've had one of those in my hands lately-I just went out to see if I could find it-I might have tossed it. I'm real sure it was that same brand-I wonder if that was a brand that the dealers used nationwide or just the dealers in Utah. The donor I that had the one I had never left the State. (I'm assuming your truck is a Utah truck since your a Utah guy.) Hey from Coalville, BTW

Hey pritch. I was beginning to think I was the only Utah guy here...and i see these trucks everywhere. I am over in Cottonwood Heights. Been out to and past Coalville many times. My buddy Dave Dallin grew up in Coalville.

Cheers to you. We need to have some Chevy event out here in Utah...do you know of any?

timcos · 10-01-2006, 11:18 PM

I am currently not towing anythijng...but like you said...you never know.

I will leave it for now.

**Stocker** · 10-02-2006, 12:13 AM

It's an older Kelsey-Hayes model. You might be able to Google something about it.

**special-K** · 10-02-2006, 06:13 AM

The biggest GM truck event in the nation used to be in Ogden.I went a couple times and was disappointed when it was moved to,I believe,Castaic Lake or Magic Mountain California.

MadDog · 10-02-2006, 08:13 AM

I had one of those in my truck. I replaced it with a newer model. I noticed my brakes worked a lot better when I replaced it. That one actually ran through my brake fluid system, and I noticed it was giving me problems.

timcos · 10-02-2006, 12:37 PM

It does move when I press the brake pedal.

Tim

timcos · 10-04-2006, 09:01 PM

OK...the wire to mine is disconnected.

There is a line coming from the block next to the master cylinder running to that controller under the dash.

It is my desire to remove it. What do I do with that line? There is a square adapter screwed into the block. Then the line to my brakes is connected to that line. Do I remove the line to the controller, remove the adapter the normal brake line is screwed into and then screw the normal line that goes to my brakes back into that block?

Thanks,

Tim

pritch · 10-04-2006, 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by timcos

Hey pritch. I was beginning to think I was the only Utah guy here...and i see these trucks everywhere. I am over in Cottonwood Heights. Been out to and past Coalville many times. My buddy Dave Dallin grew up in Coalville.

Cheers to you. We need to have some Chevy event out here in Utah...do you know of any?

I can't think of any Chevy specific events off the top of my head, but Coalville has a pretty cool car show on the 2nd Saturday of July. Usually 300-400 cars show up. One of those super cruises. We a kinda central here-groups come from SLC, Utah Co., Ogden and South Western Wyo.

Can't say I know Dave. I went to my last 2 years of high school here ('74 &'75) and been here ever since.

I seem to remember that T brake controller I had was hooked up to the brake line somehow. That 'Burb I parted came apart pretty fast, and I didn't really spend alot of time one the stuff I didn't need.

timcos · 10-05-2006, 12:21 AM

bump

wibilly · 10-05-2006, 09:26 AM

looks like you got all the goodies under that dash

RSRXION · 10-05-2006, 09:36 AM

Just unscrew the lines from the block, unscrew the block from the master cylinder , and then screw the rear line into the master cylinder. The threads and flare are the same. BUT , you'll most likely need to bleed your brakes and be sure to keep some soapy water on hand. Brake fluid eats paint and if you don't wash the residue off promptly you'll be sorry. On the inside of the cab, be sure and place an old towel etc... under the brake line where it screws into the box. The line will drip brake fluid when you take it off and the rags will prevent you from ruining carpet, mat etc...

It's a simple deal that shouldn't take but a few minutes.

Good luck, Dean

timcos · 10-05-2006, 10:36 AM

I yanked all but the electric brake controller out yersterday along with thei associated doodads alsewhere on the truck. CB Radio mount, CB Radio antennas, winch controller, bumber grill/snowplow attachment light switch...which actually worked by the way.

I will be selling the switch and the bumber grill/snowplow attachment thingy.

Nothing else I removed worked.

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10-01-2006, 09:45 PM	#2
northerngmc Registered User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Whitehorse YK Canada Posts: 2,651	Re: Wha is this? It is an electronic brake controller for controlling electric brakes on a trailer. Do you pull a trailer? If yes then you need it. There should be a power wire coming to it and then a lead wire going back to the trailer plug. __________________ Blaine 59 GMC 9314 a.k.a. Whoopee 68 C20 50th Anniversary a.k.a. The Rat http://www.flickr.com/photos/northerngmc/ http://www.members.tripod.com/P-wee/index_032.htm 1.61803 is one H of a lot better than 3.14159, no really it is!

10-01-2006, 10:07 PM	#3
timcos Chief Honcho In Charge Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Bentonville AR Posts: 970	Re: Wha is this? I do not have a trailer...but now I know what it is for...any place I can get an instruction book? __________________ 1992 1500 4x4 Shortbed 1984 Ford F250 Supercab Longbed 6.9L Diesel 1972 K10 Cheyenne Super Fleetside Short Bed - 350 - A/C 1971 VW SuperBeetle 1960 Wife 1984 Son 1986 Son 1989 Son Previous Trucks 1967 C10 SWB (1980-1981) 1971 C10 LWB (1998-2004)

10-01-2006, 10:17 PM	#4
msgross Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Central PA Posts: 12,201	Re: Wha is this? Does it move when you brake? Ours use to and you could push it yourself to engage the trailer brakes.

10-01-2006, 10:39 PM	#5
Fred T Cantankerous Geezer Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Bel Aire, KS Posts: 6,264	Re: Wha is this? If it's connected to the brake system, every time you apply the brakes the lever moves, sending a signal to the electric trailer brakes. And you can apply the trailer brakes manually by moving the lever. Never saw a manual for them. __________________ Fred There is no such thing as too much cam...just not enough engine.

10-01-2006, 10:47 PM	#6
pritch Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hoytsville, Utah Posts: 3,365	Re: Wha is this? I've had one of those in my hands lately-I just went out to see if I could find it-I might have tossed it. I'm real sure it was that same brand-I wonder if that was a brand that the dealers used nationwide or just the dealers in Utah. The donor I that had the one I had never left the State. (I'm assuming your truck is a Utah truck since your a Utah guy.) Hey from Coalville, BTW __________________ '68 Panel Project Boogie Chillin' '68 C-10 Ol' Green

10-01-2006, 10:49 PM	#7
mbgmike Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Pasadena,Tx /Pto Pta DR Posts: 5,415	Re: Wha is this? That was a real popular model. you twist the level clockwise to change the braking force. Unless you pulling a large trailer with brakes you won't need it but you never know. The new kinds are a little more advanced. mike

10-01-2006, 11:18 PM	#9
timcos Chief Honcho In Charge Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Bentonville AR Posts: 970	Re: Wha is this? I am currently not towing anythijng...but like you said...you never know. I will leave it for now. __________________ 1992 1500 4x4 Shortbed 1984 Ford F250 Supercab Longbed 6.9L Diesel 1972 K10 Cheyenne Super Fleetside Short Bed - 350 - A/C 1971 VW SuperBeetle 1960 Wife 1984 Son 1986 Son 1989 Son Previous Trucks 1967 C10 SWB (1980-1981) 1971 C10 LWB (1998-2004)

10-02-2006, 12:13 AM	#10
Stocker 20' Daredevil (Ret) Join Date: May 2003 Location: Jefferson State Posts: 13,728	Re: Wha is this? It's an older Kelsey-Hayes model. You might be able to Google something about it. __________________ - Mike - 1972 K20 LWB 350/350/205 RIP El Jay

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special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,851	Re: What is this? The biggest GM truck event in the nation used to be in Ogden.I went a couple times and was disappointed when it was moved to,I believe,Castaic Lake or Magic Mountain California. __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~

10-02-2006, 08:13 AM	#12
MadDog 1970 GMC Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Idaho Posts: 95	Re: What is this? I had one of those in my truck. I replaced it with a newer model. I noticed my brakes worked a lot better when I replaced it. That one actually ran through my brake fluid system, and I noticed it was giving me problems. __________________ MadDog's Website

10-02-2006, 12:37 PM	#13
timcos Chief Honcho In Charge Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Bentonville AR Posts: 970	Re: What is this? It does move when I press the brake pedal. Tim __________________ 1992 1500 4x4 Shortbed 1984 Ford F250 Supercab Longbed 6.9L Diesel 1972 K10 Cheyenne Super Fleetside Short Bed - 350 - A/C 1971 VW SuperBeetle 1960 Wife 1984 Son 1986 Son 1989 Son Previous Trucks 1967 C10 SWB (1980-1981) 1971 C10 LWB (1998-2004)

10-04-2006, 09:01 PM	#14
timcos Chief Honcho In Charge Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Bentonville AR Posts: 970	Re: What is this? OK...the wire to mine is disconnected. There is a line coming from the block next to the master cylinder running to that controller under the dash. It is my desire to remove it. What do I do with that line? There is a square adapter screwed into the block. Then the line to my brakes is connected to that line. Do I remove the line to the controller, remove the adapter the normal brake line is screwed into and then screw the normal line that goes to my brakes back into that block? Thanks, Tim Attached Images __________________ 1992 1500 4x4 Shortbed 1984 Ford F250 Supercab Longbed 6.9L Diesel 1972 K10 Cheyenne Super Fleetside Short Bed - 350 - A/C 1971 VW SuperBeetle 1960 Wife 1984 Son 1986 Son 1989 Son Previous Trucks 1967 C10 SWB (1980-1981) 1971 C10 LWB (1998-2004) Last edited by timcos; 10-04-2006 at 09:36 PM.

10-05-2006, 12:21 AM	#16
timcos Chief Honcho In Charge Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Bentonville AR Posts: 970	Re: What is this? bump __________________ 1992 1500 4x4 Shortbed 1984 Ford F250 Supercab Longbed 6.9L Diesel 1972 K10 Cheyenne Super Fleetside Short Bed - 350 - A/C 1971 VW SuperBeetle 1960 Wife 1984 Son 1986 Son 1989 Son Previous Trucks 1967 C10 SWB (1980-1981) 1971 C10 LWB (1998-2004)

10-05-2006, 09:26 AM	#17
wibilly Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: northwestern wi Posts: 2,111	Re: What is this? looks like you got all the goodies under that dash __________________ common sense isn't so common anymore



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10-05-2006, 09:36 AM	#18
RSRXION Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Arkansas Posts: 227	Re: What is this? Just unscrew the lines from the block, unscrew the block from the master cylinder , and then screw the rear line into the master cylinder. The threads and flare are the same. BUT , you'll most likely need to bleed your brakes and be sure to keep some soapy water on hand. Brake fluid eats paint and if you don't wash the residue off promptly you'll be sorry. On the inside of the cab, be sure and place an old towel etc... under the brake line where it screws into the box. The line will drip brake fluid when you take it off and the rags will prevent you from ruining carpet, mat etc... It's a simple deal that shouldn't take but a few minutes. Good luck, Dean __________________ "They that give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Ben Franklin Last edited by RSRXION; 10-05-2006 at 09:37 AM.

10-05-2006, 10:36 AM	#19
timcos Chief Honcho In Charge Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Bentonville AR Posts: 970	Re: What is this? I yanked all but the electric brake controller out yersterday along with thei associated doodads alsewhere on the truck. CB Radio mount, CB Radio antennas, winch controller, bumber grill/snowplow attachment light switch...which actually worked by the way. I will be selling the switch and the bumber grill/snowplow attachment thingy. Nothing else I removed worked. __________________ 1992 1500 4x4 Shortbed 1984 Ford F250 Supercab Longbed 6.9L Diesel 1972 K10 Cheyenne Super Fleetside Short Bed - 350 - A/C 1971 VW SuperBeetle 1960 Wife 1984 Son 1986 Son 1989 Son Previous Trucks 1967 C10 SWB (1980-1981) 1971 C10 LWB (1998-2004)

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