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09-24-2006, 11:12 AM
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VIN DeCODER HELP
I need some help decoding a VIN #CE234SZ71803 its a 1970 GMC with a Bigblock I think its a 402, or 396, but the little old lady I bought it from says its a 454c.u. her husband bought it new in 1970 its a Custom Model pickup with factory. A/C, PB, PS, Cruise Control. She only wanted 800.00 so i bought it and drove it 750 miles home no problems. Im trying to get the engine size and see if anyone can tell me about it by the VIN number i got the first 4 digits then it does not make sense from any of the decoders i found online? Can anyone figure it out, thanks!!
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09-24-2006, 11:21 AM
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Re: VIN DeCODER HELP
Welcome to the board from South Mississippi! Try pm'ing Rod (he's the GMC vin expert). If it's the stock engine it should be a 402 (or maybe 396). You can also try running the numbers on the engine at www.mortec.com
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09-24-2006, 02:02 PM
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Re: VIN DeCODER HELP
it all makes sense except the S part if its a 70 the s should be a zero
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09-24-2006, 09:21 PM
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Re: VIN DeCODER HELP
CE234SZ71803
C= Conventional cab E = eight cyl 2 = 3/4 ton gvw range 34 = Wideside / fleetside box S = St Loius assembly plant Z = 1970 71803 is sequence number It's a 70 gmc 3/4 ton and if it has a BB it came with a 396 / 402. Sounds like a lot of truck for price I'd say with all those options especially, and you drove it home!!! cant find that here, good deal for you.
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10-01-2006, 02:02 PM
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Re: VIN DeCODER HELP
thanks for the info
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10-01-2006, 03:15 PM
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Re: VIN DeCODER HELP
Get the numbers off of the VIN pad on the block and I'll tell you what the engine is. You'll find the VIN pad just forward of the passenger cylinder head even with the mating surface. You'll probably need to wipe it off or gently scrape it to remove the oil and/or paint. Let me know what you find and I can almost certainly tell you what it is. Dean
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10-01-2006, 03:59 PM
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its all about the +6 inches
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Re: VIN DeCODER HELP
no one has been able to prove an original 454...and GM says they never did it, so I'll say it isn't original.. .that or it isn't a 454.
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10-01-2006, 08:42 PM
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Re: VIN DeCODER HELP
My original literature doesn't list the 454 as an option. BUT ... with the alpha code off of the block I can certainly tell you what the block came from. My guess is that the ladys' husband replaced the engine at some point in the trucks life. Maybe he wanted more cubic inches when the original engine got tired. Dean
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10-01-2006, 09:36 PM
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Re: VIN DeCODER HELP
Model number is this on my Service Parts Identification sticker
KE10734 So I searched the place for some assistance. I find this link http://67-72chevytrucks.com/Chevyear.html If I follow the model number section...the 3 in my model number does not make sense as this is supposed to be the model year. Also..What is a "cab to axle dimension?" Here is my sticker
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10-01-2006, 10:22 PM
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Re: VIN DeCODER HELP
Quote:
K = 4x4 E = 8 cyl 1 = 1/2 ton gvw 07= 42 inches....cab to rear axle dimension....so its a short wheel base. 34= fleetside box I can tell its a Chev by the 07...if it was a GMC it would have been 57 instead of 07. So your model number basically gives you the wheel base and box type that the vins typically dont.  Thats a hard find..4x4 short box 8 cyl with AC..nice start...Id like it myself.
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10-01-2006, 10:28 PM
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Chief Honcho In Charge
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Re: VIN DeCODER HELP
And I am its second owner.
Thanks for the decoding. Now I just have to clear all the red neck stuff off of it. Tim
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10-07-2006, 12:45 PM
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Re: VIN DeCODER HELP
Thanks for all the info people, the number on the block is: T0515TBG
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10-07-2006, 12:46 PM
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Re: VIN DeCODER HELP
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10-07-2006, 01:20 PM
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Re: VIN DeCODER HELP
Wow! 800 and you drove it home. Congrats!
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10-07-2006, 01:34 PM
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Re: VIN DeCODER HELP
TBG =
Code Year Model CID HP Trans Comment Q 1961 Impala 409 360 4sp 580, HP Solid Cam/11.25 QQ 1964 Impala 409 340 4sp L-33 TI QR 1964 Impala 409 340 PG L-33 TI T 1958 Truck 348 230 576, 50 T 1959 Truck 348 230 576, 50 TA 1958 Truck 348 230 576, 50 TA 1959 Truck 348 230 576, 50 TBG 1970 Truck 402 310 400 L-47 10, 20, 30 TBH 1970 Truck 402 310 L-47 10, 20, 30 TC 1960 Truck 348 230 576, 50 TC 1961 Truck 348 230 576, 50 TC 1962 Truck 348 220 576, 50 TC 1963 Truck 348 220 576, 50 TC 1964 Truck 348 220 576, 50
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