pertronix or hei? - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

meathead95 · 11-10-2006, 05:28 PM

are the pertronix units anywhere near close as efficient and reliable as an hei? the reason i am asking is because i have a 70 3/4 ton 4x4 im building. and i bought an hei for it so i could do away with the points, but it looks like it will be a real tight fit with the firewall. so i was thinking of maybe running a pertronix unit. if the pertronix are good the does anyone have a kit layin around to sell or maybe have a part number for the one i need?

*wolfthing2000* · 11-10-2006, 05:31 PM

MSD Is a better choice...... Petronix is reported by many to be not so good!!!

meathead95 · 11-10-2006, 05:35 PM

got a part number?

cdowns · 11-10-2006, 05:40 PM

in craigslist /orlando there a complete new pertronix billet hei dizzy setup cheap

Longhorn Man · 11-10-2006, 05:46 PM

you can get parts for an HEI at any parts house from sea to sea.

meathead95 · 11-10-2006, 05:49 PM

i didnt ask for hei parts i wanted to know if the hei i bought would clear in a stock k 20 or if i would be better off going with a pertronix unit. and if a pertronix if someone had a kit for sale to convert my points dizzy

gmcman7202 · 11-10-2006, 05:59 PM

i have issues with it being a little close to the firewall, just makes the cap a little hard to get off. how about looking at one of the remote mount coil setups, with the directional wire caps?

Longhorn Man · 11-10-2006, 06:50 PM

OK.. I read it as which one would be better... a conversion, or HEI...
My opinion is, HEI, the main reason is that you can get parts anywhere any day and not have to special order anything.
If you turn it in the right direction, it'll clear with a little room to spere. You can slide the engine forward almost a 1/2 inch with no mods if need be.

cdowns · 11-10-2006, 06:54 PM

the petronix dizzy setup is the same size as the points dizzy no clearance problems

msgross · 11-10-2006, 06:58 PM

My Mallorey HEI does everything but touch my firewall with an Edelbrock intake. Close but it works, I have a K-10 with 327 SBC in it. I also looked into the Crane conversion ($70) but went with the whole new HEI instead.

ratrod67 · 11-10-2006, 06:58 PM

I had the Pertronix conversion kit in a 68 Impala. Drove it off and on for a couple years with no problems.

see ten · 11-10-2006, 07:09 PM

I have HEI on my K10 and have ran it in a K20. It's a tight fit, but it will work. I have also ran Pertronix. I didn't really care for the ignitor because it had a delay of a couple seconds before it would activate. The ignitorII doesn't use the delay.

**Green Machine** · 11-10-2006, 09:34 PM

New cab mounts help with HEI clearance too. Usually the front mounts use the mounts plus an additional 1/8 thick square washer on top. Every little bit helps.

*wolfthing2000* · 11-11-2006, 12:02 AM

Just go MSD and forget the rest!!!!

skokie · 11-11-2006, 02:03 AM

I had the pertronix dizzy with the Ignitor II in it. Worked for about 14-15 months then I noticed it was hard to start. I put in a HEI and my truck has never started so fast in its life.

wibilly · 11-11-2006, 03:53 AM

hei's in both my k10m and k 20 with room to remove cap and ajust timing

*wolfthing2000* · 11-11-2006, 09:19 AM

Msd

jamon8 · 11-11-2006, 09:29 AM

aftermarket should make a vaccum advance remote coil HEI

*Billla* · 11-11-2006, 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by meathead95

are the pertronix units anywhere near close as efficient and reliable as an hei? the reason i am asking is because i have a 70 3/4 ton 4x4 im building. and i bought an hei for it so i could do away with the points, but it looks like it will be a real tight fit with the firewall. so i was thinking of maybe running a pertronix unit. if the pertronix are good the does anyone have a kit layin around to sell or maybe have a part number for the one i need?

I put a Pertronix in my 1972 and it was a relatively painless process and has been 100% reliable. The only issue I had is that it took a bit of messing around to get the right clearance for the stator which bolts to the bottom of the advance - and if this isn't done then you have problems. An ignition-hot voltage source is also required; I cheated and ran a wire directly from the fuse box, but I'll be replacing that with a Painless Wiring Cirkit Boss system this winter sometime to have ignition hot for other stuff.

The P/N I installed was Summit PNX-1181.

I really like the unit, it was a quick install and I get to use the standard cap, etc.

**VetteVet** · 11-11-2006, 02:35 PM

I have a 74 corvette and the tachometer drives off a cable from the distributer so I wanted to keep the distributor but ditch the points. I talked to every street rodder and muscle car guy I could find who had changed to the pertronix units and nobody had anything bad to say about them. I bought the pertronix II but have not installed it yet. I'm concentrating on the truck which has the HEI conversion. I think that if I had the choice I would go with the HEI units, but those small Distributor caps look pretty slick.IMO

skokie · 11-11-2006, 02:46 PM

VetteVet This is what I used to run http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku

Replaced it with HEI.

cdowns · 11-11-2006, 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jamon8

aftermarket should make a vaccum advance remote coil HEI

pertronix makes a vaccume advance dizzy HEI with remote coil// summit jegs speedway all sell it

*wolfthing2000* · 11-11-2006, 03:17 PM

There is/was also a Mallory pointless kit also................don't know much bout it tho.

11-10-2006, 05:28 PM	#1
meathead95 computer illiterate Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Des Moines, IA Posts: 6,446	pertronix or hei? are the pertronix units anywhere near close as efficient and reliable as an hei? the reason i am asking is because i have a 70 3/4 ton 4x4 im building. and i bought an hei for it so i could do away with the points, but it looks like it will be a real tight fit with the firewall. so i was thinking of maybe running a pertronix unit. if the pertronix are good the does anyone have a kit layin around to sell or maybe have a part number for the one i need? __________________ 72 2wd blazer 72 swb 4x4

11-10-2006, 05:31 PM	#2
wolfthing2000 Account Suspended Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 1,276	Re: pertronix or hei? MSD Is a better choice...... Petronix is reported by many to be not so good!!! Last edited by wolfthing2000; 11-10-2006 at 05:32 PM. Reason: Not clear as to what I mean.

11-10-2006, 05:35 PM	#3
meathead95 computer illiterate Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Des Moines, IA Posts: 6,446	Re: pertronix or hei? got a part number? __________________ 72 2wd blazer 72 swb 4x4

11-10-2006, 05:40 PM	#4
cdowns Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: daytonabeach Posts: 22,956	Re: pertronix or hei? in craigslist /orlando there a complete new pertronix billet hei dizzy setup cheap __________________ 71c-10 350/2004r/4:11 lowered3/4 longbed/dead by hurricane MEANING OF DEATH::::: SOMEBODY ELSE GETS YOUR STUFF DONT BELIEVE EVERYTHING YOU THINK TAKE MY ADVISE;I DON'T USE IT ANYWAY

11-10-2006, 05:46 PM	#5
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	Re: pertronix or hei? you can get parts for an HEI at any parts house from sea to sea.

11-10-2006, 05:49 PM	#6
meathead95 computer illiterate Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Des Moines, IA Posts: 6,446	Re: pertronix or hei? i didnt ask for hei parts i wanted to know if the hei i bought would clear in a stock k 20 or if i would be better off going with a pertronix unit. and if a pertronix if someone had a kit for sale to convert my points dizzy __________________ 72 2wd blazer 72 swb 4x4

11-10-2006, 05:59 PM	#7
gmcman7202 Active Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: wi Posts: 190	Re: pertronix or hei? i have issues with it being a little close to the firewall, just makes the cap a little hard to get off. how about looking at one of the remote mount coil setups, with the directional wire caps?

11-10-2006, 06:50 PM	#8
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	Re: pertronix or hei? OK.. I read it as which one would be better... a conversion, or HEI... My opinion is, HEI, the main reason is that you can get parts anywhere any day and not have to special order anything. If you turn it in the right direction, it'll clear with a little room to spere. You can slide the engine forward almost a 1/2 inch with no mods if need be.

11-10-2006, 06:54 PM	#9
cdowns Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: daytonabeach Posts: 22,956	Re: pertronix or hei? the petronix dizzy setup is the same size as the points dizzy no clearance problems __________________ 71c-10 350/2004r/4:11 lowered3/4 longbed/dead by hurricane MEANING OF DEATH::::: SOMEBODY ELSE GETS YOUR STUFF DONT BELIEVE EVERYTHING YOU THINK TAKE MY ADVISE;I DON'T USE IT ANYWAY

11-10-2006, 06:58 PM	#10
msgross Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Central PA Posts: 12,201	Re: pertronix or hei? My Mallorey HEI does everything but touch my firewall with an Edelbrock intake. Close but it works, I have a K-10 with 327 SBC in it. I also looked into the Crane conversion ($70) but went with the whole new HEI instead.

11-10-2006, 06:58 PM	#11
ratrod67 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: DFW Texas Posts: 2,270	Re: pertronix or hei? I had the Pertronix conversion kit in a 68 Impala. Drove it off and on for a couple years with no problems.

11-10-2006, 07:09 PM	#12
see ten WTB this ad Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Lafayette Georgia Posts: 5,074	Re: pertronix or hei? I have HEI on my K10 and have ran it in a K20. It's a tight fit, but it will work. I have also ran Pertronix. I didn't really care for the ignitor because it had a delay of a couple seconds before it would activate. The ignitorII doesn't use the delay.

11-10-2006, 09:34 PM	#13
Green Machine Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Estherville, Iowa Posts: 3,371	Re: pertronix or hei? New cab mounts help with HEI clearance too. Usually the front mounts use the mounts plus an additional 1/8 thick square washer on top. Every little bit helps. __________________ 1968 C10 307 3spd Long Fleet ------ http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=201103 1970 C10 305 Super T10 Long Fleet --- http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=202285 1971 C20 383 TH350 Dana Posi ----- http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=206894 2001 GMC Sierra 1500 C3 6.0

11-11-2006, 12:02 AM	#14
wolfthing2000 Account Suspended Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 1,276	Re: pertronix or hei? Just go MSD and forget the rest!!!!

11-11-2006, 02:03 AM	#15
skokie Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: San Jose Ca. Posts: 3,334	Re: pertronix or hei? I had the pertronix dizzy with the Ignitor II in it. Worked for about 14-15 months then I noticed it was hard to start. I put in a HEI and my truck has never started so fast in its life. __________________ RIP to my son Dylan. 5/17/2002 - 8/18/2018 If you want to know more about rare forms of pediatric cancer or if you want to help fund pediatric cancer research, please check out the website for the non-profit I started. https://slothforpedcancer.org 68 build thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=223234



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11-11-2006, 03:53 AM	#16
wibilly Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: northwestern wi Posts: 2,111	Re: pertronix or hei? hei's in both my k10m and k 20 with room to remove cap and ajust timing __________________ common sense isn't so common anymore

11-11-2006, 09:19 AM	#17
wolfthing2000 Account Suspended Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 1,276	Re: pertronix or hei? Msd

11-11-2006, 09:29 AM	#18
jamon8 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: southern Il Posts: 335	Re: pertronix or hei? aftermarket should make a vaccum advance remote coil HEI

11-11-2006, 02:35 PM	#20
VetteVet Msgt USAF Ret Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Kalamazoo, Michigan Posts: 8,709	Re: pertronix or hei? I have a 74 corvette and the tachometer drives off a cable from the distributer so I wanted to keep the distributor but ditch the points. I talked to every street rodder and muscle car guy I could find who had changed to the pertronix units and nobody had anything bad to say about them. I bought the pertronix II but have not installed it yet. I'm concentrating on the truck which has the HEI conversion. I think that if I had the choice I would go with the HEI units, but those small Distributor caps look pretty slick.IMO __________________ VetteVet metallic green 67 stepside 74 corvette convertible 1965 Harley sportster 1995 Harley wide glide Growing old is hell, but it beats the alternative.

11-11-2006, 02:46 PM	#21
skokie Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: San Jose Ca. Posts: 3,334	Re: pertronix or hei? VetteVet This is what I used to run http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku Replaced it with HEI. __________________ RIP to my son Dylan. 5/17/2002 - 8/18/2018 If you want to know more about rare forms of pediatric cancer or if you want to help fund pediatric cancer research, please check out the website for the non-profit I started. https://slothforpedcancer.org 68 build thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=223234

11-11-2006, 03:17 PM	#23
wolfthing2000 Account Suspended Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 1,276	Re: pertronix or hei? There is/was also a Mallory pointless kit also................don't know much bout it tho.

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