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Old 11-22-2006, 09:55 AM   #1
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Power steering pump help?????

This may be a dumb question, but that has never stopped me before . I have swapped my SB350 for a BB468. I am buttoning everything up and I can't fit the power steering pump from the 350 onto the BB! The holes look like they line up, but maybe it's just the bracket??? I am hoping like heck that SB and BB P/S pumps aren't different. But then again, I had no idea that SB and BB motor mount brackets were different until just last week Any feedback on the P/S pump issue greatly appreciated.

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Old 11-22-2006, 11:00 AM   #2
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This may be a dumb question, but that has never stopped me before . I have swapped my SB350 for a BB468. I am buttoning everything up and I can't fit the power steering pump from the 350 onto the BB! The holes look like they line up, but maybe it's just the bracket??? I am hoping like heck that SB and BB P/S pumps aren't different. But then again, I had no idea that SB and BB motor mount brackets were different until just last week Any feedback on the P/S pump issue greatly appreciated.

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yeah they are different
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Old 11-22-2006, 11:10 AM   #3
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Re: Power steering pump help?????

Are you using a long or short water pump?
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Old 11-22-2006, 11:12 AM   #4
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brackets are different from a SB to a BB
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Old 11-22-2006, 11:20 AM   #5
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Are you using a long or short water pump?
Long water pump

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Old 11-22-2006, 11:21 AM   #6
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yeah they are different

The pumps or the brackets? Or both?

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Old 11-22-2006, 11:22 AM   #7
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brackets are different from a SB to a BB
But the same pump can be used????

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Old 11-22-2006, 11:23 AM   #8
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Re: Power steering pump help?????

Go get these at the dealership. I'm using them on my 72. They are about $35 or so.

3967422--bracket
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Old 11-22-2006, 11:24 AM   #9
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But the same pump can be used????

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Yes, same resivour(SP?) and pump can be used. You just need the right brackets.

*EDIT** One other thing that might get you is the later year pumps used an "O" ring style seal compared to the earlier "Flare" style seal.

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Old 11-22-2006, 11:27 AM   #10
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Go get these at the dealership. I'm using them on my 72. They are about $35 or so.

3967422--bracket
14015391--bracket
3967424--spacer

WOO HOOO!!! Thanks, Ratrod67!!!

Now onward to the next obstacle...LOL

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Old 11-22-2006, 12:38 PM   #11
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Re: Power steering pump help?????

hey rat rod u have any pics of how all the brackets go on i tore my motor apart couple years ago can't rember how they went back on
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Old 11-22-2006, 01:37 PM   #12
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hey rat rod u have any pics of how all the brackets go on i tore my motor apart couple years ago can't rember how they went back on
Yeah....what HE said
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Old 11-22-2006, 02:07 PM   #13
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here you go found these pics helped me out should help once u get the brackets
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those pictures are for a big block pump about 40 dollars at local parts store
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Old 11-22-2006, 02:08 PM   #15
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not sure if they work with small block pump let me know if they do
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Old 11-22-2006, 02:28 PM   #16
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not sure if they work with small block pump let me know if they do
Thanks, ProStreet67!! I will check with Oreilly, Autozone, or Advance Auto Parts...

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Old 11-22-2006, 02:40 PM   #17
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Thanks, ProStreet67!! I will check with Oreilly, Autozone, or Advance Auto Parts...

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i know for a fact autozone carries the chrome pulley that will fit press on small block pump or on the big block pump which has a keyway and a nut
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Old 11-22-2006, 04:55 PM   #18
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Re: Power steering pump help?????

there is absolutely NO difference in the pumps between a small block or a big block for our model trucks, the difference is in the brackets ONLY.

early style (late 50's thru mid 60's) pumps had 3/4" in shafts with NO keyway and the pulleys were pressed on.

later (mid 60's up) style pumps had a 1/8" keyway in the pulley ... unsure of shaft size, this was pretty much the standard pump until GM went to the serpentine pulley/belt system ... and some claim the only difference then was the pulley, I can't say.

I have a ZOOP'S press on 3/4" shaft single groove pulley if you are interested, it is polished billet FORGED aluminum , not the Cheap Chinese cast version.

Let me know if you're interested & I can get you a pic or two.

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Old 11-22-2006, 06:34 PM   #19
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Re: Power steering pump help?????

Novajess,,,dont mean to hijack,been watching & learning thru your questions,,I'm doing the sbc to bbc swap right now myself,,,just ordered the brackets that RatRod mentioned,,from GMPartsDirect.com,,,$23.83 +$12.21 for handling ,,,thought this might help you out ?
I'm using the P.O.L. motor mount stands,,the motor mount themselves are $7.95 each at O'Reilly,,,part # Anchor 2267,,,however I havent got them installed yet,,waiting on some parts for the rat motor.May have some clearance issues too?
Hope this helps out ?
Thanks RatRod & everbody for the good info.
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Old 11-25-2006, 09:48 PM   #20
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Novajess,,,dont mean to hijack,been watching & learning thru your questions,,I'm doing the sbc to bbc swap right now myself,,,just ordered the brackets that RatRod mentioned,,from GMPartsDirect.com,,,$23.83 +$12.21 for handling ,,,thought this might help you out ?
I'm using the P.O.L. motor mount stands,,the motor mount themselves are $7.95 each at O'Reilly,,,part # Anchor 2267,,,however I havent got them installed yet,,waiting on some parts for the rat motor.May have some clearance issues too?
Hope this helps out ?
Thanks RatRod & everbody for the good info.
JFD
Hey, TraderJon! Thanks for the info. I am in the middle (and i literally mean in the middle...came in from garage just to look at the pics that prostreet1967 posted of the P/S pump brackets so I can finish) of installing the brackets now. I bought them from Landmark Chevrolet, here in Houston. Little did I know that they have one fo the largest parts desks in Texas.

The motor mount stands I got from Outback Truck Parts worked beautifully! I just wish that the price was as beautiful ($171 total) But we do we we gotta to get our babies on the road again. Let us know how your project goes!!!

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