spicer 3/4 ton hubs, HD44 being parted out - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

masterbeavis · 12-03-2006, 06:20 PM

yep, partin out the axle I was trying to sell complete from my '71 K20. Price for complete axle with 4.10 gears, needs brakes and balloints $250.

PM Me if you are serious about a part.

Guess the weight of the parts and figure the shipping at the UPS website. Use 95623, ElDorado CA as the ship from address.

http://wwwapps.ups.com/calTimeCost?loc=en_US
UPS

Locking external style hubs, with blue dial. The back side of the dial is broken where the pin crosses thru it on both units. They are no longer for sale until I figure out how to fix this problem and make it a lasting repair.
8 lug outers without lockouts, rotors junk $75
Flat top knuckles $75 for the pair, ya need these for a high steer conversion
Bare loaded housing , 4.10 gears $50
Axles and stub shafts, $100 for the set.
4" lift steering arm $40

All prices are PLUS shipping, and are OR best reasonable offer. I say again, hubs as of this moment are NOT for sale till they are repaired. If you want them as is, PM me, we can work something out.

LawMan02 · 12-03-2006, 09:39 PM

I'm interested in the Spicer hubs. Does all the internal parts come with it? Thanks, Randy

**zeusflash** · 12-03-2006, 11:35 PM

If Lawman02 does not buy the hubs I am interested in them. I also would like to know if they come with all the internals.I also need the left brake dust shield if you want to part with it.

masterbeavis · 12-03-2006, 11:58 PM

I had planned on including everything from the hub out, making them an usefull assembly.

The dust shields come with the outers.

Down south truckin · 12-04-2006, 12:44 AM

i'm interested in the hubs also if they get to me thanks Mike

masterbeavis · 12-04-2006, 12:47 AM

Hold onto your money..

I just finished taking the hubs off from the axle, the backside of the plastic dial is broken on both sides. I need to do some research on how to make a good long lasting repair before I can sell these.

70rs/ss · 12-04-2006, 02:56 PM

How about the 4" lift steering arm? PM me.

454_72_4X4 · 12-04-2006, 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by masterbeavis

Hold onto your money..

I just finished taking the hubs off from the axle, the backside of the plastic dial is broken on both sides. I need to do some research on how to make a good long lasting repair before I can sell these.

Is this broken where the small metal pin passes through the plastic? It's been awhile since I've had mine apart but I drilled a new hole for the pin, (rotated the plastic slightly).
The pointer on the plastic won't line up exactly with the chrome outer ring so this wouldn't work for "show" quality but for functionality it works fine.

Hope you can make sense out of my poor description...

arkracing · 12-04-2006, 09:00 PM

what is the differance between a HD44 and a regular 44? - just the hub/spindles - and the 8lug with bigger brakes or is the entire axle beefier than a regular 1/2 d44??

454_72_4X4 · 12-04-2006, 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arkracing

what is the differance between a HD44 and a regular 44? - just the hub/spindles - and the 8lug with bigger brakes or is the entire axle beefier than a regular 1/2 d44??

Just different from the balljoints out. The center section is all the same.

masterbeavis · 12-05-2006, 01:22 AM

Differences I am aware of between 8 lug HD and non HD.
1. lockout style (duh)
2. Bearings are slightly larger on the HD

Differences between the 1/2t and 3/4t
1. Bigger bearings on the HD
2. Larger piston for the caliper on the 3/4t(they interchange)
3. Taller rotor
4. Rumor has it some 3/4t's have thicker tubes, and larger diameter (or maybe thats just some fords)

There were small spindles, and large spindle half and 3/4 ton.

**w314speed** · 12-05-2006, 05:29 AM

I am interested in the following:
8 lug outer hubs without lockouts with the spindles and dust shields-can you knock the rotors off and throw them away $75 plus shipping AND
the axles and stub shafts- these are the left and right axles from the dif case to locking hub? $75 plus shipping
Figure the shipping to 30127 and let me know the total price. PM me payment options
Thanks, DAN

**w314speed** · 12-05-2006, 06:31 AM

I wanted to ask if you have the front driveshaft from this truck? If so, $ for it
Thanks again, Dan

arkracing · 12-05-2006, 08:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by masterbeavis

Differences I am aware of between 8 lug HD and non HD.
2. Bearings are slightly larger on the HD

Not trying to steal the thread on you...just trying to figure this out.

so there are 2 sizes of bearings for 3/4t axles????
or are all 3/4t (8-lug) axles considered "HD" with the bigger bearing size????

Thanks

masterbeavis · 12-05-2006, 12:29 PM

ARKracing, I might be smoking crack on the 3/4ton bearing differences, but 3/4 ton are larger than the 1/2 ton. I think the I.D. is the same however, the half and 3/4 hubs are interchangeable.

W314: Let me separate the shaft from the Tcase, I need to check the CV and make sure its still good. Give me the measurement of your existing shaft, measured center of cap to center of cap compressed, and fully extended to confirm the size I have is the size you need. If the CV checks out, I want $100 for it.

**w314speed** · 12-05-2006, 03:12 PM

I Won't Be Home Til Friday For The Measurements On The Shaft.

Let Me Know About The Other Parts In My Previous Reply.

Thanks

arkracing · 12-05-2006, 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by masterbeavis

ARKracing, I might be smoking crack on the 3/4ton bearing differences, but 3/4 ton are larger than the 1/2 ton. I think the I.D. is the same however, the half and 3/4 hubs are interchangeable.

Yeh I knew that the 3/4ts had the bigger bearing than the 1/2 ton and I know that you can put the 3/4 ton spindles on a 1/2 ton axle set up.

I guess I was confused into thinking that there were 2 different types of 3/4t axles

#1. = d44 (3/4ton)
#2. = d44HD (3/4ton)
but they are the same thing and some people just use the "HD" to designate the axle as a 3/4t

masterbeavis · 12-06-2006, 12:16 AM

They have the HD designation from the factory
Spicer 44-5F, 44-6F Internal style locking hub
Spicer 44-5HDF, 44-6HDF, External locking hub

I searched again online and have confirmed that the HD does have a different inner bearing than a NON HD. as far as a 75HD or non compared to a '79 non. So they are not all the same??!?

**w314speed** · 12-06-2006, 10:19 AM

PM sent. Thanks, Dan

Down south truckin · 12-06-2006, 11:25 PM

masterbeavis I'm still interested in the spicer hubs even if they are broken let me know what you want for them as is thanks Mike

masterbeavis · 12-12-2006, 01:23 AM

Hubs will be for sale again once I have fixed the dials and aquire actuators (which these were missing) Price will be $125 for the pair, with all parts nescessary to slap these onto a bare hub. The repaird dials will be stronger than ANY NOS or used dial you will find. These wont fail like this again. The weak link is getting moved to??

earl87gta · 12-12-2006, 02:12 AM

put me inline for every thing to do an 8 lug convertion exept the locking hubs.

454_72_4X4 · 12-12-2006, 03:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by masterbeavis

The repaird dials will be stronger than ANY NOS or used dial you will find. These wont fail like this again. The weak link is getting moved to??

If ya don't mind me askin, how are ya gonna fix the dials?
I wouldn't mind refixing mine so the pointer will line up, (and be stronger too!).

masterbeavis · 12-14-2006, 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 454_72_4X4

If ya don't mind me askin, how are ya gonna fix the dials?
I wouldn't mind refixing mine so the pointer will line up, (and be stronger too!).

read it here. http://www.67-72chevytrucks.com/vboa...d.php?t=218451

12-03-2006, 11:35 PM	#3
zeusflash Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Post Falls,Idaho Posts: 691	Re: spicer 3/4 ton hubs, HD44 being parted out If Lawman02 does not buy the hubs I am interested in them. I also would like to know if they come with all the internals.I also need the left brake dust shield if you want to part with it. __________________ '69 3/4 ton 427 CST Pickup '71 CST Blazer '72 GMC 3/4 4x4 Last edited by zeusflash; 12-03-2006 at 11:37 PM.

12-03-2006, 11:58 PM	#4
masterbeavis Having issues Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Eldorado Ca, an hour east of sacramento Posts: 696	Re: spicer 3/4 ton hubs, HD44 being parted out I had planned on including everything from the hub out, making them an usefull assembly. The dust shields come with the outers.

12-04-2006, 12:44 AM	#5
Down south truckin Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Lilburn Georgia Posts: 1,240	Re: spicer 3/4 ton hubs, HD44 being parted out i'm interested in the hubs also if they get to me thanks Mike

12-04-2006, 12:47 AM	#6
masterbeavis Having issues Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Eldorado Ca, an hour east of sacramento Posts: 696	Re: spicer 3/4 ton hubs, HD44 being parted out Hold onto your money.. I just finished taking the hubs off from the axle, the backside of the plastic dial is broken on both sides. I need to do some research on how to make a good long lasting repair before I can sell these.

12-04-2006, 02:56 PM	#7
70rs/ss Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Northern AZ Posts: 7,270	Re: spicer 3/4 ton hubs, HD44 being parted out How about the 4" lift steering arm? PM me.

12-03-2006, 06:20 PM	#1
masterbeavis Having issues Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Eldorado Ca, an hour east of sacramento Posts: 696	spicer 3/4 ton hubs, HD44 being parted out yep, partin out the axle I was trying to sell complete from my '71 K20. Price for complete axle with 4.10 gears, needs brakes and balloints $250. PM Me if you are serious about a part. Guess the weight of the parts and figure the shipping at the UPS website. Use 95623, ElDorado CA as the ship from address. http://wwwapps.ups.com/calTimeCost?loc=en_US UPS Locking external style hubs, with blue dial. The back side of the dial is broken where the pin crosses thru it on both units. They are no longer for sale until I figure out how to fix this problem and make it a lasting repair. 8 lug outers without lockouts, rotors junk $75 Flat top knuckles $75 for the pair, ya need these for a high steer conversion Bare loaded housing , 4.10 gears $50 Axles and stub shafts, $100 for the set. 4" lift steering arm $40 All prices are PLUS shipping, and are OR best reasonable offer. I say again, hubs as of this moment are NOT for sale till they are repaired. If you want them as is, PM me, we can work something out. Last edited by masterbeavis; 12-14-2006 at 11:52 PM.

12-03-2006, 09:39 PM	#2
LawMan02 Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Saint Francisville, Louisiana Posts: 157	Re: spicer 3/4 ton hubs, HD44 being parted out I'm interested in the Spicer hubs. Does all the internal parts come with it? Thanks, Randy __________________ 1972 GMC K2500, stepside, stock 350, 4 speed. Former F/D truck with 32,000 miles, no rust. 1973 Jeep CJ 5, 304, 33's with side pipes 2008 GMC 2500HD, CC, SWB, D/A, SLT

12-04-2006, 09:00 PM	#9
arkracing Weekend Warrior Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: CT Posts: 1,787	Re: spicer 3/4 ton hubs, HD44 being parted out what is the differance between a HD44 and a regular 44? - just the hub/spindles - and the 8lug with bigger brakes or is the entire axle beefier than a regular 1/2 d44?? __________________ -'07 GMC Sierra K2500HD -'66 C10 Suburban -'68/'71 K20 Service Bed Project -'69 Chevy C30 Mason Dump -'33Ford P/U 396ChevyPowered

12-05-2006, 01:22 AM	#11
masterbeavis Having issues Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Eldorado Ca, an hour east of sacramento Posts: 696	Re: spicer 3/4 ton hubs, HD44 being parted out Differences I am aware of between 8 lug HD and non HD. 1. lockout style (duh) 2. Bearings are slightly larger on the HD Differences between the 1/2t and 3/4t 1. Bigger bearings on the HD 2. Larger piston for the caliper on the 3/4t(they interchange) 3. Taller rotor 4. Rumor has it some 3/4t's have thicker tubes, and larger diameter (or maybe thats just some fords) There were small spindles, and large spindle half and 3/4 ton. Attached Images

12-05-2006, 05:29 AM	#12
w314speed Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: atlanta Posts: 2,315	Re: spicer 3/4 ton hubs, HD44 being parted out I am interested in the following: 8 lug outer hubs without lockouts with the spindles and dust shields-can you knock the rotors off and throw them away $75 plus shipping AND the axles and stub shafts- these are the left and right axles from the dif case to locking hub? $75 plus shipping Figure the shipping to 30127 and let me know the total price. PM me payment options Thanks, DAN

12-05-2006, 06:31 AM	#13
w314speed Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: atlanta Posts: 2,315	Re: spicer 3/4 ton hubs, HD44 being parted out I wanted to ask if you have the front driveshaft from this truck? If so, $ for it Thanks again, Dan

12-05-2006, 12:29 PM	#15
masterbeavis Having issues Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Eldorado Ca, an hour east of sacramento Posts: 696	Re: spicer 3/4 ton hubs, HD44 being parted out ARKracing, I might be smoking crack on the 3/4ton bearing differences, but 3/4 ton are larger than the 1/2 ton. I think the I.D. is the same however, the half and 3/4 hubs are interchangeable. W314: Let me separate the shaft from the Tcase, I need to check the CV and make sure its still good. Give me the measurement of your existing shaft, measured center of cap to center of cap compressed, and fully extended to confirm the size I have is the size you need. If the CV checks out, I want $100 for it.

12-05-2006, 03:12 PM	#16
w314speed Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: atlanta Posts: 2,315	Re: spicer 3/4 ton hubs, HD44 being parted out I Won't Be Home Til Friday For The Measurements On The Shaft. Let Me Know About The Other Parts In My Previous Reply. Thanks

12-06-2006, 12:16 AM	#18
masterbeavis Having issues Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Eldorado Ca, an hour east of sacramento Posts: 696	Re: spicer 3/4 ton hubs, HD44 being parted out They have the HD designation from the factory Spicer 44-5F, 44-6F Internal style locking hub Spicer 44-5HDF, 44-6HDF, External locking hub I searched again online and have confirmed that the HD does have a different inner bearing than a NON HD. as far as a 75HD or non compared to a '79 non. So they are not all the same??!?

12-06-2006, 10:19 AM	#19
w314speed Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: atlanta Posts: 2,315	Re: spicer 3/4 ton hubs, HD44 being parted out PM sent. Thanks, Dan



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12-06-2006, 11:25 PM	#20
Down south truckin Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Lilburn Georgia Posts: 1,240	Re: spicer 3/4 ton hubs, HD44 being parted out masterbeavis I'm still interested in the spicer hubs even if they are broken let me know what you want for them as is thanks Mike

12-12-2006, 01:23 AM	#21
masterbeavis Having issues Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Eldorado Ca, an hour east of sacramento Posts: 696	Re: spicer 3/4 ton hubs, HD44 being parted out Hubs will be for sale again once I have fixed the dials and aquire actuators (which these were missing) Price will be $125 for the pair, with all parts nescessary to slap these onto a bare hub. The repaird dials will be stronger than ANY NOS or used dial you will find. These wont fail like this again. The weak link is getting moved to??

12-12-2006, 02:12 AM	#22
earl87gta Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Kingsport TN Posts: 4,641	Re: spicer 3/4 ton hubs, HD44 being parted out put me inline for every thing to do an 8 lug convertion exept the locking hubs. __________________ Earl 68 2500 4x4 GMC Burb

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