suicide doors

[sick69]

these hinges should work fine on 64-66 and 75 trucks. its all a matter of carefull planning and as stated above make patterns of everything before cutting

[sick69]

ok so here are some pics of the passenger side. for what ever reason the pics before this point didn't come out very well so i'll have to get some of the drivers side



http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p...sdoorjamb3.jpg

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p...sdoorjamb2.jpg

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p...sdoorjamb1.jpg

I still need to cut the reinforcment plates for the back of the jamb but I can make a pattern from the jamb now that I have the holes cut.

[sick69]

and here is what you get if your careless and have a captian dumba** moment

[sick69]

I didn't get hardly anything done today. made the door buckets today, just waiting on the snow to stop so I can hang/align the door and cut the holes for the buckets.

tomorrows plan,,,
get the hinges in the drivers side
cut the hole in the backing plates for the hinges on the drivers side
weld the backing plates/support plates together

if I get that done tomorrow all i'm waiting on is the weather to clear up a bit so I can push it out and align the doors again.( man it kinda sucks working in a small one car garage sometimes) once the doors are aligned again I can cut the doors and get the buckets welded in. put my window channels back in and figure out the supports inside the doors.

kinda thinking about using s10 latches, i've heard alot of people complaining about the aftermarket bearclaw latches.
whatever latches I use ,I'm thinking about reverseing those aswell.
put the latch portion on the cab and the striker bolt on the door. it will be alot easier to attach an emergency cable this way, so i'm not locked out if my battery dies. i'll have to go looking at the junkyard tomorrow and see what I can come up with.

anyone have thoughts on the latches?

Frank

[roj2323]

wow nice gash. little bit of jb weld will fix ya right up. lol sorry man i've been there myself. i had a run in with a grinder last winter.

as for your s10 latches, it sounds like a pretty straight forward idea and would make it easier to adjust everything. just make sure you put a plate in the door behind the striker to both hold it together and as a precaution against a side inpact. something as small as 4in x 4in would be plenty.
ondrew

[sick69]

this has become project "stitches"!

the last time I worked on it was in between my kids births and I ended up with 14 in my chin,,, now 13 in my head,,,, well like I said thats what happens when you have a captian dumba** moment

I have to agree on the reinforcement piece on the striker bolt.
i'm going to wonder around the jy tomorrow and see what looks like it will work the best for what I want to do. at this point s10 latches are looking like the ones but we'll see


Frank

[72armyswbtruck]

Originally Posted by sick69

and here is what you get if your careless and have a captian dumba** moment

Love the Frankenstien look
Seroiusly though, work lookin good

[sick69]

chicks dig scars!! well mine does anyway


Frank

[sick69]

I went to the jy yesterday and picked up the S10 latches for 10.00 a pair and the doors seals for 5.00 a pair

the S10 seals are about 1" to short ,,,no big deal I can hide that in the back.
for all those doing this make sure you get the 2 door seals as the 4 doors have smaller doors.

I know I know the thread is worthless without pics! I am going to get a new digital camera this week so there should be some new pics soon.


Frank

[sick69]

here are some new pics. these things will be swinging backwards by the end of the week end! bracing inside the doors, welding the pockets to the doors and they will be off the stock hinges

[watahyahknow]

looks good , can you still adjust the doors with those hinges ?
it could happen the doors sag forwarth once you disconneted the original hinges

[Rokcrln]

Loking good so far! The only thing I would recomend is bracing your plates off to anything but the exterior body. I see you have the plates cut to match the body contour and I do not know if you planned on welding them or not. If you do you will get stress marks showing up on the out side at some point and time. The yellow would be added plate to weld to the floor and upper interior brace. The red is the weld locations. Just my un-asked for .02 but what the hell I had some left over from that Christmass bonus $1 I got

Kevin
LFD Inc.

[LUV2XCLR8]

Looking good so far

[sick69]

watahyahknow,, yes there is some adjustment with those hinges. to try and help to eliminate sag when the factory hinges come out i'm welding in an x brace from the new hinge pockets to the old hinge points. the first one will have a little preload tention build into it.

Rokcrln,, don't apologize for putting in your .02! part of the reason I started a thread and have been posting pics is for the input. i've seen alot of great work from the members of this board and welcome any ideas. everything from custom scratch built frames to unbelievable bodywork and everything inbetween

I was going to weld to the back wall, but I agree with the stress marks point and will probably go with your idea. at this point I had a friend put all his weight on them (weighs 250ish) while I held up a straight edge next to the jamb and couldn't see any flex in the jamb area at all with the hinge open all the way, open halfway and closed. as soon as the doors are working correctly I have both rockers and the passenger cab corner to replace. then i'll weld in the lower plates to the floor. I know I should have done the corner and rockers first,,, what can I say I got anxious to do the doors!

and thanks for all the encouragement from everyone.

Frank

[sick69]

well I got the passenger door swinging but I still need to get it outside so I can open the door all the way and make sure nothing hits. doesn't look like there will be any issues at this point.

I did run into an issue with the door sagging due to the amount of inner door that I cut out. but I got that taken care of. still need to clean up a couple spots with a grinder but had to stop and get something to eat. if all goes well it shouldn't be a problem getting the driver side done tomorrow and pushed outside to open the doors up.

I'll get pics up as soon as I can get it outside with the doors open.


Frank

[sick69]

a small update,,, a few small things left to do but ,,,,,,,,,,

THEY WORK!!!
















I'll get them finished up and primered over the next week or so,,,and on to the next poject of the build.(rockers,corners and 1 spot in the floor pan)


Frank

[Aarons72s]

Great work sick69! To me this also looks like a good idea if someone wants to build an extended cab truck to. You would get doors like newer extended cabs. Great thread!

[BOSS]

Great thread and looks like a great job on the doors also,what year latches where they off of the jeep anyway? Allways wanted to do this myself someday.

[sick69]

thanks guys.

the hinges are off of a mid 70s jeep grand wagoneer two door.
it has been rumored the the four door hinges don't open far enough(about 60 degrees instead of 90)

at the jy the other day I figured out what this rumor was all about.
the front doors of a four door open to 90 degrees or extremely close to it, the rear doors on a four door only open to about 60 degrees.

so for what I can tell the twp door model,the p/u, and the FRONT doors or a four door model should work for this. also it looked like a couple of early model international scouts had these same hinges(although I didn't pull any to compare)

the latches still need to go in and some clean up and bracing on both doors is all thats needed.

all in all it was pretty easy to do, and I found couple things I will do differently when I do it next time.

[FRENCHBLUE72]

Damn Looks Good Look At That Snow..

[Suicide-D]

Looks good.

I am finally going to get my lazy @ss back to work on my truck. I haven't touched my cab other than to move it over in a year or more. I was involved in other projects...Do you have any clearance issues with the top hinge and the window channel? I had to go around the channel but I didnt use the Jeep hinges.

Later
Darryl

[sick69]

I haven't had any issues with the hinges getting in the way of anything. the top hinge sits right up against the window channel but doesn't interfear with it at all.

unfortuanatly the last post that showed progress is as far as i've gotten with it. my mom lost her battle with cancer a couple days ago, so it'll be a little bit before I get back to it.


Frank

[Suicide-D]

Sorry to hear about your Mom. I'm not on the board alot but I can be reached via email if you have anything you want to discuss.
I did my latches a little differently than normal and I'm planning on using some corvette outside door handles under the dash to open the doors from the inside.

[sick69]

thanks,,,,,,,,,,,


handles under the dash could be an interesting option. still undecided about inside latches, but im thinking im going to shave the inside aswell



Frank