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Old 02-27-2007, 11:50 AM   #1
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17x11 torq thrust?

Hey guy's! I'm wanting to run a 17x11 rim on my 67 short fleet, and want to know if I'm going to have any problems with clearance. I'd love to see pic's. I also have a 6 inch drop & c-notch. I don't know what tire I'll be running just yet. Thank's oldno7.
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Old 02-27-2007, 01:03 PM   #2
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Re: 17x11 torq thrust?

Well with a 6" drop, you need to tuck, but I am not sure an 11" wide wheel with tire will fit in the stock wheelhouse. To run 20x10s, I mini tubbed mine so that the inside edge of the wheelhouse sits right on the outside edge of the frame. I have inches to spare now, but without it I don't think my 315/35/20 would fit between the bedside and the inside of the wheelhouse.

IIRC, the inside width of the stock wheelhouse 11.5" and my 315 tire is right at 12" wide, and you will need to run at least a 315 probably a 325 on an 11" wheel. I can take pictures of my bed with the wheel if it would help you, its all still in pieces .
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Old 02-27-2007, 11:38 PM   #3
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Hey bigsky71, Have you gotten your truck painted yet, The last I knew you were getting ready or close. Thanks for the info, and offer for that pic. I have 15x10's now. I may be able to get an idea from this set-up. I'll probably end up with 17x9.5's or something close to that. oldno7
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Old 02-28-2007, 02:08 PM   #4
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Outside not painted but the interior, jams and backs of most parts are done. Bed is still in primer because I need to add my fuel door. I am wiring now and putting the engine compartment together. The piles of parts piles are getting smaller!
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Old 02-28-2007, 02:45 PM   #5
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Old 02-28-2007, 04:02 PM   #6
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Its all about the lip baby!
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Old 02-28-2007, 05:07 PM   #7
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Re: 17x11 torq thrust?

BogSky71 Do you have to make some different tub's to clear that combo? That is freaking awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 02-28-2007, 05:41 PM   #8
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BogSky71 Do you have to make some different tub's to clear that combo? That is freaking awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yep, I went 5.5" wider, but only really needed to go about 1.5" wider to clear those 315s.

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...I mini tubbed mine so that the inside edge of the wheelhouse sits right on the outside edge of the frame. I have inches to spare now, but without it I don't think my 315/35/20 would fit between the bedside and the inside of the wheelhouse.
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Old 02-28-2007, 09:06 PM   #9
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Love the lip! More info-More info. What you doing to the front. 20's f&r? Bags? Looking good.
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Old 02-28-2007, 09:43 PM   #10
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Looks great, I have some 325/30/20 on 20x13 (measuring outer edges of rim) and the tires are flush with the rim lip but they are on my '00, can't wait to see yours finished Big Sky, Best thing to do is measure and remeasure.
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Old 03-01-2007, 12:59 AM   #11
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Re: 17x11 torq thrust?

man you guys are running tire as wide as my 06 vette. that is amazing. i wonder if you play with the offsets if you could run a 305 on a 12 back there

oh wait my vette is running 325's but the diffrence is min. proably not even noticeable
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Old 03-01-2007, 01:05 PM   #12
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Love the lip! More info-More info. What you doing to the front. 20's f&r? Bags? Looking good.
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Looks great, I have some 325/30/20 on 20x13 (measuring outer edges of rim) and the tires are flush with the rim lip but they are on my '00, can't wait to see yours finished Big Sky, Best thing to do is measure and remeasure.
Wow, that surprises me the 325 works on the 13" rim, I would have guessed that tire would be too skinny for that rim. I looked into getting 20x12s, but didn't want to spend 7 bills per wheel, or end up with a "drag" type rear tire that had no warranty. My local LesSchwab tire store sells Toyos and the biggest Proxes they offer is that 315/35/20. Best thing is their no questions warranty, destroy a tire, they get you a new one [ala there was some tread left on it of course].

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man you guys are running tire as wide as my 06 vette. that is amazing. i wonder if you play with the offsets if you could run a 305 on a 12 back there

oh wait my vette is running 325's but the diffrence is min. proably not even noticeable
You know I was thinking about that the other day. My rear tires are larger than the tires on the Vettes I was drooling over when I was the Display Presentation Manager [lot monkey] at my local GM store, course that was about 19 years ago...

Another picture, the tire is backwards because I only got one wheel/tire initially to check my measurements and the drivers side of my truck is against the garage wall. Sorry for blurrrrrr too.
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Here is a pic of the tire on the wheels, tires are Michelins
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Re: 17x11 torq thrust?

Big sky your truck is moving in the right direction and looking good. I love that rear tire set up. So all that you did was add a few inches to the wheel tube. Doesn,t the frame run right down the wheel tube or is it in a few inches?
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Old 03-04-2007, 02:33 AM   #15
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Thanks Oldno7. The time it took to fit that 9" was all worth it when I got to stuff that wheel and tire on there and see how it looked with the bedside.

About your question, I think you are asking about where the inside of my wheel tub is? Stock it sits about 5" to the outside of the frame, so I cut that part out so that the inside of my tub is even with the outside of the frame. Basically I cut the bed back to allow the largest width tire I could run with a stock frame, but I didn't use all that space, my wheel could be at least 4" wider before hiting the frame. All the additional width though would have to be to the inside of the mounting surface of the wheel. That red 68 in the Stoked Out thread is setup that way I believe [20x15 w/7" backspacing], and it looks incredible.
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Old 03-04-2007, 10:29 AM   #16
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Re: 17x11 torq thrust?

Great minds think alike! I did my set up about 7yrs ago and I tuck 335/35/17's but will be going to a larger tire to fill the fender well better. I went 7" on my tub job just to keep all bed lines lined up. I also have plenty of extra room (too much room).

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Great minds think alike! I did my set up about 7yrs ago and I tuck 335/35/17's but will be going to a larger tire to fill the fender well better. I went 7" on my tub job just to keep all bed lines lined up. I also have plenty of extra room (too much room).

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At times I wish I had gone a little lower with my truck, like yours, but then I remind myself people up here in frozen Montana don't see any bagged rides, so mine will still be unique. My dream is to attempt a custom frame like Josh [abadsvt] is building, maybe after this truck is back on the road. .
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Hey bigsky, Just wondering how much you narrowed the rearend? Did you have any issues with the trailing arms, or how about the rear spring. If you get a chance will you post some clearance pics. Thank's oldno7
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Hey bigsky, Just wondering how much you narrowed the rearend? Did you have any issues with the trailing arms, or how about the rear spring. If you get a chance will you post some clearance pics. Thank's oldno7
I didn't have to narrow the rear end at all actually. It is a bone stock rear end from an early 70s Bronco. I have a friend that builds those and he hooked me up. Its 58.25" wide outside of drum to outside of drum. It actually worked perfectly, width wise, for me to use the minimum of 3" BS on the 20x10 TTIIs. It even has 3.55 gears, so my truck should drive just as it did stock. The only downside is that it has the small 28 spline axles, open carrier and is a "small bearing" rear-end. I called Currie just after I got it and the person I spoke to said it probably be fine for a mild sbc, but if I built the motor he said it may not last. I priced updating the rear end to big bearing, adding trac loc [Ford talk you know], 31 spline axles and disks and that came to about 2k, so that upgrade will have to wait...

I think you can go about 2.5 to 3" narrower before you get really close to the trailing arms. Also I modded my EC super track bar mount to keep it above the axle blocks, here are a few picts.

Added; one thing I did have to change is the bolt pattern. My axles are at the machine shop currently getting drilled down to 5 on 5 from the Ford pattern, 5 on 5 1/4"?, not sure I just known I wanted 5 on 5 all around.
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Great minds think alike! I did my set up about 7yrs ago and I tuck 335/35/17's but will be going to a larger tire to fill the fender well better. I went 7" on my tub job just to keep all bed lines lined up. I also have plenty of extra room (too much room).

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I'm having some of those same issue's. My 67 has the 6 lug pattern, and want to run the 5x5 TTll's. Should be running 500+ HP when it's finished. I want it to hook-up so I'll be running a soft compound tire. I now I need to have stronger axles, and a new posi, and might as well narrow it 2-3 inches. I will be using the stock frame. I guess I'm just going to bite the bullet and spend 2-3k for a new rearend. I'm also wanting to go fleetside, so It seem's to me I can't proceed with the rearend untill I get the bed for measurment's. My brother say's I think about xxxx to much and to just order something! oldno7
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Old 03-06-2007, 01:24 PM   #22
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Yea, with that much hp you will need a sturdy rear end under that baby. My mild 350 probably won't hurt my little 9" right away, besides I drive like grandma on sleeping pills.
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