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Old 03-11-2007, 03:16 PM   #1
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Fuel Pump Failure?

Question, can a fuel pump fail in a state that it will allow too much fuel to pas through and flood the carb? Or do fuel pumps fail only in that they quit pumping?

Using a new rebuld QuadraJet from Oreileys, she ran fine at first but it was blowing black smoke. Very rich, so rich it is fouling the plugs. So here is the problem, I turned the screws down all the way to close and it still idles fine. In fact a bit high and only chokes down when I cover the butterflys with my hand.

Last night we checked the timing, pulled and cleaned all the spark plugs and then put a good used Edlebrock 600 CFM 1405 carb on it. She ran for all of about 5 min or less and then flooded, Gas was coming out of the carb.

We tried to crank it a few times then hydrolocked the motor with so much gas. After opening all the plugs to let the presure out we disconnected the fuel line and cranked it over more.

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Old 03-11-2007, 03:23 PM   #2
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Re: Fuel Pump Failure?

You don't note what pump it is; if the pressure is < ~7 PSI then a pump can overwhelm the needle. I don't think this is a failure as much as it is a mismatched pump. If it's an electric vs. mechanical pump, then it's a different discussion as the bypass/return could be blocked.

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Re: Fuel Pump Failure?

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You don't note what pump it is; if the pressure is < ~7 PSI then a pump can overwhelm the needle. I don't think this is a failure as much as it is a mismatched pump. If it's an electric vs. mechanical pump, then it's a different discussion as the bypass/return could be blocked.
Sorry, good point.

This is a stock 350 with a mechanical pump. The engine sat up for about 5 years before I basicly got it running again about 9 months ago.

I have no idea what the pressure coming out of the pump is? Guess I need to find out.
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Old 03-11-2007, 04:14 PM   #4
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Re: Fuel Pump Failure?

No worries If it's a mechanical, I can't think of a way it could fail that would produce higher pressure. My guess is that it's a race-type mechanical pump that's made to be used with a regulator. Definitely want to check the pressure before looking any further - anything over 6-7 means a regulator is required or swap to a street-type aftermarket pump.

I see this problem all the time :/
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Old 03-11-2007, 07:37 PM   #5
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Re: Fuel Pump Failure?

Similar problem 2 different carbs....... Do you have an in-line filter between the pump and carb? Sounds like needles sticking open.
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Old 03-12-2007, 07:34 AM   #6
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Similar problem 2 different carbs....... Do you have an in-line filter between the pump and carb? Sounds like needles sticking open.

Yes, there is an inline filter.

Thinking it is a carb problem myself. Edlebrock sat for a few months and might have a stuck float, will pull it apart this week to check it out.

Q-Jet ? Thinking a bad rebuild. Or from another post here might have a leak dumping extra fuel into the intake.

Will check it out this weeek also.

I agree with other guy that said he never heard of a fuel pump pushing too much fuel unless it is a higher Pressure unit than needed.
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