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68 Suburban · 05-07-2002, 08:51 AM

Is it a bolt in our trucks? Would you need the pitman for the year truck the gear box is out of? What else would be needed? Thanks

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j-dogg · 05-07-2002, 10:48 AM

I'm pretty sure they are interchangable up to something like 1980 when they switched to metric. I recently added power steering to my 70 and I was going to use a box from a '76. The 76 box bolted up fine with no modifications, but I couldn't use it because it was too worn out. I bought a reman. box at Hi-lo for a 70 and the only difference between the 70 and the 76 box I found was the input shaft (the splined thing that the rag joint connects to) was a different size. Turns out the input shafts changed size around 76. I had no trouble finding the right size rag joint at the junkyard.

[This message has been edited by j-dogg (edited May 07, 2002).]

JW · 05-07-2002, 12:38 PM

I used a 75 Chevy truck P/S box on my 72, had no problems. Everything went together like the original 72. The 75 pitman arm was on the box, used the 72 steering shaft and connector.

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*Fast68Chevy* · 05-07-2002, 02:53 PM

dont get an 80-up one, the lines fittings are wayyyyy different. any 68-79 will work perfectly,. hope you have the frame big indentated in area for the p/s boxes to mount on..
good luck

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69 longhorn · 05-07-2002, 03:24 PM

One more thought,those 80 up metric boxes have a faster ratio.....I have one on my longhorn,& I like it! To set it up, I used the hoses for an 84 burb(what the box was from),& have the later style water pump & accessories. You can also have hoses made up pretty cheap,all you need are the ends. Good luck........69longhorn.

*Fast68Chevy* · 05-07-2002, 05:37 PM

some do, not all, there is an option PRO code for them, forgot what it is now, hmm

heres pic of frame indentation i mean, hopefully you can see it somehow:

http://community.webshots.com/storag...0LvlIeT_ph.jpg
http://community.webshots.com/script...ecurity=LvlIeT

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Longhorn Man · 05-07-2002, 05:45 PM

Here is the pic that fast was trying to post. I guess webshots won't host anymore.

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68 Suburban · 05-07-2002, 09:49 PM

I have an indentation.

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67-68 SUBURBAN TRIM. $$$$ Reward
for finding the 3rd door trim piece
and the small piece that goes on
the 1/4 panel right behind the
3rd door.

chevyman 68 C/10 · 05-07-2002, 09:49 PM

I have used the 81 up boxes before and only changed the valves at the back where the hoses go. This lets you use the metric lines and your pump -no problems. The valves are the backing nut where you screw in the lines. No adapter fittings needed.

Jeff M. · 05-07-2002, 09:57 PM

I did the same thing chevman did. Unscrewed the pressure valve from the p/s pump and used a metric valve from the later model along with the pressure hose. The return just slid the rubber hose on my pump.

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69 longhorn · 05-07-2002, 10:01 PM

I changed the valve at the back of the pump,but used a 73 up waterpump,steering pump,ect(engine is set in on 6/250 stands). Will that valve also work in the oldstyle pumps?.....69

dmnall · 05-08-2002, 01:32 AM

I bolted up a 79 PS Box but I had to notch out my Bumber Bracket because the Bracket was in the way of the Box Bolting up.. But other then that, it is a complete Bolt on. For a PS pump, I had to pull one out of a 76 Chevy Van because the Junkyard I went to, did not have any PS Brackets on the Trucks, and then I had to buy a replacement Pump but for around $ 75 total for parts, I have Powersteering and it works a lot better then that manual steering.. If you get a PS box from a junkyard, you do need to get Pitman Arm and Ragjoint Also!!

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chevyman 68 C/10 · 05-08-2002, 06:48 AM

Yes longhorn it will work on the old pumps. YOU just need to get the pittman arm, hoses and maybe the brackets if they match your water pump. IF you have trouble with the hose routing you might have to go look in the parts book at your local parts house. IT may take a few minutes, but it is all well worth it for power steering

69 longhorn · 05-08-2002, 08:19 AM

No troubles Chevyman,I set up the metric box on the longhorn 3-4 yrs ago......just wondered if the later fitting worked with the early ps pumps(for future possible toys). Thanks for the info......69longhorn.

05-07-2002, 03:24 PM	#5
69 longhorn Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: rock island,il,usa Posts: 5,382	One more thought,those 80 up metric boxes have a faster ratio.....I have one on my longhorn,& I like it! To set it up, I used the hoses for an 84 burb(what the box was from),& have the later style water pump & accessories. You can also have hoses made up pretty cheap,all you need are the ends. Good luck........69longhorn. __________________ http://community.webshots.com/user/hotrodhorn

05-07-2002, 09:49 PM	#8
68 Suburban Registered User Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: From Chicago, Live in Phoenix, AZ Posts: 6,802	I have an indentation. ------------------ Check out other members trucks 1968 50th Anniversary C-10 Suburban (Tows all these cars all over the place) 1968 50th Anniversary C-10 Pickup 1968 50th Anniversary C-20 Pickup CST, FOR SALE 1969 SS Camaro Conv't 1960 Lakewood Travel Trailer 1963 Ford Falcon Wagon, On Ebay for $1250 2000 Chevy Malibu (Suppose to be daily driver, but the Burb is) Phoenix, AZ. Click Here for Parts and Venicles I have Available THINGS I AM LOOKING FOR: 67-68 SUBURBAN TRIM. $$$$ Reward for finding the 3rd door trim piece and the small piece that goes on the 1/4 panel right behind the 3rd door. __________________ Just sitting here contemplating contemplation.

05-07-2002, 09:49 PM	#9
chevyman 68 C/10 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Gilmer, Texas USA Posts: 313	I have used the 81 up boxes before and only changed the valves at the back where the hoses go. This lets you use the metric lines and your pump -no problems. The valves are the backing nut where you screw in the lines. No adapter fittings needed. __________________ 69 Chevy short fleet side soon to have LT1 and 4L60E pb. ps cruise and air. 68 Chevy short fleet side 400 sb 5 inch chop top pb. ps. pw. 350 auto and shaved handles 68 anniversary no engine long wheel base 400 auto FOR SALE 68 Chevy fleet side long wheel base complete parts truck.

05-07-2002, 09:57 PM	#10
Jeff M. Registered User Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Pixley, Ca. Posts: 486	I did the same thing chevman did. Unscrewed the pressure valve from the p/s pump and used a metric valve from the later model along with the pressure hose. The return just slid the rubber hose on my pump. ------------------ 69 C-10 CST Short Fleet, Factory Air, BB427-crane rollers-edelbrock intake-lunati cam-ceramic coated headers-400 Auto-2400 stall-tilt-cruise-Tach & Vac Gagues, 4/6 drop, one piece side windows My Truck Here! __________________ 69 C-10 CST Short Fleet, Factory Air, BB427-400 Auto-2400 stall-tilt-cruise-Tach & Vac Gagues, 4/6 drop, power one piece side windows, Eaton posi.

05-07-2002, 10:01 PM	#11
69 longhorn Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: rock island,il,usa Posts: 5,382	I changed the valve at the back of the pump,but used a 73 up waterpump,steering pump,ect(engine is set in on 6/250 stands). Will that valve also work in the oldstyle pumps?.....69 __________________ http://community.webshots.com/user/hotrodhorn

05-07-2002, 08:51 AM	#1
68 Suburban Registered User Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: From Chicago, Live in Phoenix, AZ Posts: 6,802	What modifications for 73+ steering gear? Is it a bolt in our trucks? Would you need the pitman for the year truck the gear box is out of? What else would be needed? Thanks ------------------ Check out other members trucks 1968 50th Anniversary C-10 Suburban (Tows all these cars all over the place) 1968 50th Anniversary C-10 Pickup 1968 50th Anniversary C-20 Pickup CST, FOR SALE 1969 SS Camaro Conv't 1960 Lakewood Travel Trailer 1963 Ford Falcon Wagon, On Ebay for $1250 2000 Chevy Malibu (Suppose to be daily driver, but the Burb is) Phoenix, AZ. Click Here for Parts and Venicles I have Available THINGS I AM LOOKING FOR: 67-68 SUBURBAN TRIM. $$$$ Reward for finding the 3rd door trim piece and the small piece that goes on the 1/4 panel right behind the 3rd door. __________________ Just sitting here contemplating contemplation.

05-07-2002, 10:48 AM	#2
j-dogg Registered User Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Texas Posts: 189	I'm pretty sure they are interchangable up to something like 1980 when they switched to metric. I recently added power steering to my 70 and I was going to use a box from a '76. The 76 box bolted up fine with no modifications, but I couldn't use it because it was too worn out. I bought a reman. box at Hi-lo for a 70 and the only difference between the 70 and the 76 box I found was the input shaft (the splined thing that the rag joint connects to) was a different size. Turns out the input shafts changed size around 76. I had no trouble finding the right size rag joint at the junkyard. [This message has been edited by j-dogg (edited May 07, 2002).]

05-07-2002, 12:38 PM	#3
JW Registered User Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Carmichael, Ca Posts: 67	I used a 75 Chevy truck P/S box on my 72, had no problems. Everything went together like the original 72. The 75 pitman arm was on the box, used the 72 steering shaft and connector. ------------------ 72 Cheyenne Super, Fleetside, Shortbed, Original Owner, Special Ordered 350ci/340hp, Auto Trans, 3:70 Posi, Tow Package Northern Calif __________________ 72 Cheyenne Super, Fleetside, Shortbed, Original Owner, Special Ordered 350ci/340hp, Auto Trans, 3:70 Posi, Tow Package Northern Calif

05-07-2002, 02:53 PM	#4
Fast68Chevy Account Suspended Join Date: May 2000 Location: IL Posts: 0	dont get an 80-up one, the lines fittings are wayyyyy different. any 68-79 will work perfectly,. hope you have the frame big indentated in area for the p/s boxes to mount on.. good luck ------------------ Randy- Lincoln, IL randy@ccaonline.com 2177353230 many GM parts bought, traded, or sold -am parting out: '81 Cutlass Supreme Brougham current fleet: -71 C-10 350/CH465/3.07- basketcase, #1 -90 Cavalier 2.2L sky blue, a driver -84 Z28 5.0L/700R4/3.73 daily driver -84 Firebird/SE 2.8L/T-5/3.73/engine bad, project #2 -82 purple Trans Am, project #3 Paint is overrated* © RSS Enterprises 2000

05-07-2002, 05:37 PM	#6
Fast68Chevy Account Suspended Join Date: May 2000 Location: IL Posts: 0	some do, not all, there is an option PRO code for them, forgot what it is now, hmm heres pic of frame indentation i mean, hopefully you can see it somehow: http://community.webshots.com/storag...0LvlIeT_ph.jpg http://community.webshots.com/script...ecurity=LvlIeT ------------------ Randy- Lincoln, IL randy@ccaonline.com 2177353230 many GM parts bought, traded, or sold -am parting out: '81 Cutlass Supreme Brougham current fleet: -71 C-10 350/CH465/3.07- basketcase, #1 -90 Cavalier 2.2L sky blue, a driver -84 Z28 5.0L/700R4/3.73 daily driver -84 Firebird/SE 2.8L/T-5/3.73/engine bad, project #2 -82 purple Trans Am, project #3 Paint is overrated* © RSS Enterprises 2000

05-07-2002, 05:45 PM	#7
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,690	Here is the pic that fast was trying to post. I guess webshots won't host anymore. ------------------ '69 G.M.C. 350/350. Trying to clean up the left over damage from the Dope-Smokin-Old-Man I've been dubbed the Longhorn Freak/Fanatic/Expert, I just hope I can live up to it. FINALLY got the HORNIAC...a '70 one ton Longhorn with a Pontiac 350/350 and lots of 'personality'. Check out The Longhorn Webite. If you need a pic posted, E-mail me at longhornmail@yahoo.com My name is Andy...not Randy...I'm in Ohio...Not Illinois...close enough? Columbus Ohio

05-08-2002, 01:32 AM	#12
dmnall Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Goleta, CA Posts: 505	I bolted up a 79 PS Box but I had to notch out my Bumber Bracket because the Bracket was in the way of the Box Bolting up.. But other then that, it is a complete Bolt on. For a PS pump, I had to pull one out of a 76 Chevy Van because the Junkyard I went to, did not have any PS Brackets on the Trucks, and then I had to buy a replacement Pump but for around $ 75 total for parts, I have Powersteering and it works a lot better then that manual steering.. If you get a PS box from a junkyard, you do need to get Pitman Arm and Ragjoint Also!! ------------------ Truck #1 68 Chev LWB Fleet w/ Wood Floor (Sucks Gas and Hauls Ass!) and in process of Body Work... Truck #2 1994 GMC Sierra SL w/ 4.3L Vortec V6, 4L60E Auto!! __________________ 1968 C10 Truck LWB Fleetside 1968 C10 Truck SWB Stepside 1994 K2500 Ext Cab Fleetside 2008 Honda Civic Si lease

05-08-2002, 06:48 AM	#13
chevyman 68 C/10 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Gilmer, Texas USA Posts: 313	Yes longhorn it will work on the old pumps. YOU just need to get the pittman arm, hoses and maybe the brackets if they match your water pump. IF you have trouble with the hose routing you might have to go look in the parts book at your local parts house. IT may take a few minutes, but it is all well worth it for power steering __________________ 69 Chevy short fleet side soon to have LT1 and 4L60E pb. ps cruise and air. 68 Chevy short fleet side 400 sb 5 inch chop top pb. ps. pw. 350 auto and shaved handles 68 anniversary no engine long wheel base 400 auto FOR SALE 68 Chevy fleet side long wheel base complete parts truck.

05-08-2002, 08:19 AM	#14
69 longhorn Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: rock island,il,usa Posts: 5,382	No troubles Chevyman,I set up the metric box on the longhorn 3-4 yrs ago......just wondered if the later fitting worked with the early ps pumps(for future possible toys). Thanks for the info......69longhorn. __________________ http://community.webshots.com/user/hotrodhorn



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