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Old 04-03-2007, 05:04 PM   #1
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Choke problem

Alright heres my problem. I have an 86 305 with a q-jet carb.(not sure on which one it is) When i go to start the truck after it has been sitting for a while the choke kicks in and my engine revs high. After a couple mins i tap the gas and it revs down. The carb was rebuilt when i got this motor and we swapped the electric choke off of the carb that was on my 85 4.3L and put it on this carb.
What do you guys think the problem is.
Also if anyone has a good condition holley or edelbrock 4bbl around 600-650 cfm i might be interested. Im sick of this q-jet.

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Old 04-03-2007, 05:28 PM   #2
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...When i go to start the truck after it has been sitting for a while the choke kicks in and my engine revs high. After a couple mins i tap the gas and it revs down...
So this is not the normal "fast idle when cold" condition? A faster idle when first starting the engine (cold) is normal - - isn't it?
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Old 04-03-2007, 05:33 PM   #3
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Re: Choke problem

It doesnt seem like its something normal
if the truck starts without me giving it any gas then it wont do it but as soon as i hit the gas it idles way up
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Old 04-03-2007, 05:41 PM   #4
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Re: Choke problem

It is normal for the engine to rev higher when the choke is on. If the speed of the engine is too high there should be an adjustment screw like your idle speed screw on the choke side. It sounds as if the choke is working correctly but the revs need to be turned down.
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Old 04-03-2007, 05:46 PM   #5
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It is normal for the engine to rev higher when the choke is on. If the speed of the engine is too high there should be an adjustment screw like your idle speed screw on the choke side. It sounds as if the choke is working correctly but the revs need to be turned down.
I had a mechanic adjust it as best as he could.
When its like 80 degrees out, you wouldnt think the choke would kick in
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Old 04-03-2007, 06:08 PM   #6
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Re: Choke problem

Yea you're right I wouldn't think that it should kick in at 80 either. Not really sure what temp the choke needs to get up to for it to kick out. Have patience I'm sure someone on here can get this figured out for you. For a basic sbc a Q-jet is a very good carb, I have had alot more trouble with holleys and edelbrocks than any Q-jet.
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Old 04-03-2007, 11:08 PM   #7
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Re: Choke problem

i've worked with and rebuilt ALOT of carbs. and i'd have to say that i still like the edelbrocks the best as far as getting them set.....but as far as rebuilding i like the quadra-"junks" the best....the only real down side to them is getting the automatic choke set right....when you switched the choke with the one of the 4.3 did you change housing and all?? cause there are several "step" cams....which hold your cold idle speed....and if you have the choke body off the 4.3 that might be why you are having this issue.....
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Old 04-11-2007, 03:39 PM   #8
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i've worked with and rebuilt ALOT of carbs. and i'd have to say that i still like the edelbrocks the best as far as getting them set.....but as far as rebuilding i like the quadra-"junks" the best....the only real down side to them is getting the automatic choke set right....when you switched the choke with the one of the 4.3 did you change housing and all?? cause there are several "step" cams....which hold your cold idle speed....and if you have the choke body off the 4.3 that might be why you are having this issue.....
i think this may be my problem
how do i fix this?

edit: Is the choke body the piece that the wire plugs into?
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Old 04-11-2007, 03:47 PM   #9
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Re: Choke problem

All of my cars that are carb. do this i just figured that a carb and it never seemed to bother me.
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Old 04-12-2007, 08:34 AM   #10
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Re: Choke problem

maybe this helps. Before switching to TBI I messed with my 85 qjet alot. On the bench I was able to set it up and it worked great (for a while). There are steps on the fast idle cam that work in conjunction with the choke blade angle. The idea is that a cold engine requires a richer mixture. The carb does this by increasing the throttle angle to give a higher engine speed when cold. This is why you have to pump the pedal once before starting, the choke is able to close and set the idle screw on the fast idle cam. the choke blade on top acts like a restriction in the intake path. The increased engine speed pulls in more air and the choke blade that is almost closed restricts the air but causes it to flow faster. This air moving faster past the main venturis in the carb (which normallly are not used at idle speeds) now with the increased velocity of the air will start to siphon a little bit of fuel from them. This is what richens the mixture for a cold operation. THen as the choke warms and opens towards fully open the fast idle cam falls to a lower notch until it is completely riding on the normal idle cam.

When the engine is cold the fuel doesn't atomize well in the intake manifold so fuel tends to condense on the cold metal and never makes it into the combustion chamber. Richening up the mixture compensates for this until the intake manifold is warmed up and the fuel stays atomized after leaving the carb all the way to the combustion chamber.
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