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**70C10Toejam** · 04-17-2007, 06:48 PM

How much should I cut off?

Got my '85 spindles on the 70, and like I read on here, the steering stop won't let it turn all the way. I haven't attached the tie-rods yet. I plan on cutting the stops down. There is about an inch difference from the tie-rod and its location on the spindle. I would think you would want the spindle to stop before the steering box stops turning.

Any suggestions before I start cutting would be helpful.

**70C10Toejam** · 04-18-2007, 06:58 PM

Any help out there?????

rlm316 · 04-19-2007, 08:40 AM

I will try to get some numbers for you tomorrow. Can't send pics, so I will try to explain.

**70C10Toejam** · 04-19-2007, 08:10 PM

Thank you in advance.

rlm316 · 04-20-2007, 10:47 AM

Sorry, I didn't get into the garage last night. Will get it for you over the weekend. Lane

**70C10Toejam** · 04-20-2007, 10:53 PM

Not a problem...at your leasure. Would rather do it right than again.

GREASEMONKEY72 · 04-21-2007, 02:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 70C10Toejam

Not a problem...at your leasure. Would rather do it right than again.

aint that the truth, would you tell that to a buddy of mine? maybe he'll get it more comeing from someone else

**70C10Toejam** · 04-21-2007, 03:47 PM

I'll tell'im that...nobody wants to believe it the first time they hear something. They could hear it from the blithering idiot down the street and believe them, as long as it is the second person to say it.

rlm316 · 04-25-2007, 10:07 AM

Sorry that it took me so long to get back to you, not enough hours in the day. I have been looking at this real hard and the spindle/ control arm from the disc and from the drum are just so different that I think that I would just try and find a set of lower control arms from the '85 and put them in. The stops on the drum lower arms are pretty much rectangular and straight up from the arm, the stop on the disc arm has a tab welded on the spindle edge of the stop. The spindles are set up different as well. The stops on the spindles both pertrude from the inside face of the spindle about 2.5", but they look completely different. I really think that if you can find the right set of arms you should just take the bite for a new set of lower ball joints and put them in. Good luck, Lane.

**70C10Toejam** · 04-25-2007, 10:51 PM

Thanks for the effort, but I think I will keep the lower control arms and new balljoints. Almost took the ones off the donor chassis, just because.

Guess I'll have to put my head in a vise and sandblast the rust off the old geometry. Gotta have something to do with different ...trial and error methods.

Maybe I'll go to the pick-n-pull and try some measurements while I'm there.

Bus Ted Knuckle · 04-25-2007, 11:18 PM

Trial and error is the method I will be using this weekend to do the same thing. I am thinking that I can get some measurments from the old spindle, at least to get in the ball park. Tell you what, you keep me posted, and I'll keep you posted

**70C10Toejam** · 04-25-2007, 11:27 PM

Sounds like a plan

Was planning on getting mine alligned, so everything at least started in an equal position on each side. Pop the outers out again (should not change the alignment). Then just slowly start grinding until the stop hits before the box stops turning. Grind, loosely install tierod...repeat as necessary.

followed by

Might even go as far as making a patern of the first side to make the other side a little easier and faster.

Course that is if the &^$&^#$@ing rain will stop so I can get the brakes finished in the first place.

**70C10Toejam** · 05-01-2007, 11:08 PM

made any progress on this B.T. Knuckle????

mine is finally driveable...to be alligned soon.

Bus Ted Knuckle · 05-01-2007, 11:19 PM

I had visitors from out of state this weekend and did not get ANYTHING done!

How much did you cut off? I want DETAILS!!!

**70C10Toejam** · 05-01-2007, 11:23 PM

no cutting yet...but hopefully they will go under the grinder soon.

Bus Ted Knuckle · 05-02-2007, 12:03 AM

Aww man, I though you would do the hard work for me

**70C10Toejam** · 05-02-2007, 12:10 AM

I DID do all the hard work.

...just not on the stops

Bus Ted Knuckle · 05-02-2007, 12:15 AM

I hear ya! Did all that myself

...

04-17-2007, 06:48 PM	#1
70C10Toejam Hellasick Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Death Moans, IA Posts: 876	changing steering stop How much should I cut off? Got my '85 spindles on the 70, and like I read on here, the steering stop won't let it turn all the way. I haven't attached the tie-rods yet. I plan on cutting the stops down. There is about an inch difference from the tie-rod and its location on the spindle. I would think you would want the spindle to stop before the steering box stops turning. Any suggestions before I start cutting would be helpful. __________________ I keep two MAGNUMS in my desk. One's a gun, and I keep it loaded. The other's a bottle and it keeps ME loaded. I'm Tracer Bullet. (Calvin and Hobbes) This life was a test. It was only a test. If this had been an actual life, you would have received instructions on where to go and what to do. RED meat is not bad for you...FUZZY BLUE/GREEN MEAT is bad for you!!!!!!!!!!!!! BUILT FORD TOUGH WITH CHEVY STUFF--sticker at Goodguys

04-18-2007, 06:58 PM	#2
70C10Toejam Hellasick Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Death Moans, IA Posts: 876	Re: changing steering stop Any help out there????? __________________ I keep two MAGNUMS in my desk. One's a gun, and I keep it loaded. The other's a bottle and it keeps ME loaded. I'm Tracer Bullet. (Calvin and Hobbes) This life was a test. It was only a test. If this had been an actual life, you would have received instructions on where to go and what to do. RED meat is not bad for you...FUZZY BLUE/GREEN MEAT is bad for you!!!!!!!!!!!!! BUILT FORD TOUGH WITH CHEVY STUFF--sticker at Goodguys

04-19-2007, 08:40 AM	#3
rlm316 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Woodstown, NJ Posts: 669	Re: changing steering stop I will try to get some numbers for you tomorrow. Can't send pics, so I will try to explain.

04-19-2007, 08:10 PM	#4
70C10Toejam Hellasick Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Death Moans, IA Posts: 876	Re: changing steering stop Thank you in advance. __________________ I keep two MAGNUMS in my desk. One's a gun, and I keep it loaded. The other's a bottle and it keeps ME loaded. I'm Tracer Bullet. (Calvin and Hobbes) This life was a test. It was only a test. If this had been an actual life, you would have received instructions on where to go and what to do. RED meat is not bad for you...FUZZY BLUE/GREEN MEAT is bad for you!!!!!!!!!!!!! BUILT FORD TOUGH WITH CHEVY STUFF--sticker at Goodguys

04-20-2007, 10:47 AM	#5
rlm316 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Woodstown, NJ Posts: 669	Re: changing steering stop Sorry, I didn't get into the garage last night. Will get it for you over the weekend. Lane

04-20-2007, 10:53 PM	#6
70C10Toejam Hellasick Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Death Moans, IA Posts: 876	Re: changing steering stop Not a problem...at your leasure. Would rather do it right than again. __________________ I keep two MAGNUMS in my desk. One's a gun, and I keep it loaded. The other's a bottle and it keeps ME loaded. I'm Tracer Bullet. (Calvin and Hobbes) This life was a test. It was only a test. If this had been an actual life, you would have received instructions on where to go and what to do. RED meat is not bad for you...FUZZY BLUE/GREEN MEAT is bad for you!!!!!!!!!!!!! BUILT FORD TOUGH WITH CHEVY STUFF--sticker at Goodguys

04-21-2007, 03:47 PM	#8
70C10Toejam Hellasick Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Death Moans, IA Posts: 876	Re: changing steering stop I'll tell'im that...nobody wants to believe it the first time they hear something. They could hear it from the blithering idiot down the street and believe them, as long as it is the second person to say it. __________________ I keep two MAGNUMS in my desk. One's a gun, and I keep it loaded. The other's a bottle and it keeps ME loaded. I'm Tracer Bullet. (Calvin and Hobbes) This life was a test. It was only a test. If this had been an actual life, you would have received instructions on where to go and what to do. RED meat is not bad for you...FUZZY BLUE/GREEN MEAT is bad for you!!!!!!!!!!!!! BUILT FORD TOUGH WITH CHEVY STUFF--sticker at Goodguys

04-25-2007, 10:07 AM	#9
rlm316 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Woodstown, NJ Posts: 669	Re: changing steering stop Sorry that it took me so long to get back to you, not enough hours in the day. I have been looking at this real hard and the spindle/ control arm from the disc and from the drum are just so different that I think that I would just try and find a set of lower control arms from the '85 and put them in. The stops on the drum lower arms are pretty much rectangular and straight up from the arm, the stop on the disc arm has a tab welded on the spindle edge of the stop. The spindles are set up different as well. The stops on the spindles both pertrude from the inside face of the spindle about 2.5", but they look completely different. I really think that if you can find the right set of arms you should just take the bite for a new set of lower ball joints and put them in. Good luck, Lane.

04-25-2007, 10:51 PM	#10
70C10Toejam Hellasick Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Death Moans, IA Posts: 876	Re: changing steering stop Thanks for the effort, but I think I will keep the lower control arms and new balljoints. Almost took the ones off the donor chassis, just because. Guess I'll have to put my head in a vise and sandblast the rust off the old geometry. Gotta have something to do with different ...trial and error methods. Maybe I'll go to the pick-n-pull and try some measurements while I'm there. __________________ I keep two MAGNUMS in my desk. One's a gun, and I keep it loaded. The other's a bottle and it keeps ME loaded. I'm Tracer Bullet. (Calvin and Hobbes) This life was a test. It was only a test. If this had been an actual life, you would have received instructions on where to go and what to do. RED meat is not bad for you...FUZZY BLUE/GREEN MEAT is bad for you!!!!!!!!!!!!! BUILT FORD TOUGH WITH CHEVY STUFF--sticker at Goodguys Last edited by 70C10Toejam; 04-25-2007 at 10:51 PM.

04-25-2007, 11:18 PM	#11
Bus Ted Knuckle Son of a gun Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Hot Springs, Arkansas Posts: 1,636	Re: changing steering stop Trial and error is the method I will be using this weekend to do the same thing. I am thinking that I can get some measurments from the old spindle, at least to get in the ball park. Tell you what, you keep me posted, and I'll keep you posted __________________ Bill BEATERS ARE NEATER

04-25-2007, 11:27 PM	#12
70C10Toejam Hellasick Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Death Moans, IA Posts: 876	Re: changing steering stop Sounds like a plan Was planning on getting mine alligned, so everything at least started in an equal position on each side. Pop the outers out again (should not change the alignment). Then just slowly start grinding until the stop hits before the box stops turning. Grind, loosely install tierod...repeat as necessary. followed by Might even go as far as making a patern of the first side to make the other side a little easier and faster. Course that is if the &^$&^#$@ing rain will stop so I can get the brakes finished in the first place. __________________ I keep two MAGNUMS in my desk. One's a gun, and I keep it loaded. The other's a bottle and it keeps ME loaded. I'm Tracer Bullet. (Calvin and Hobbes) This life was a test. It was only a test. If this had been an actual life, you would have received instructions on where to go and what to do. RED meat is not bad for you...FUZZY BLUE/GREEN MEAT is bad for you!!!!!!!!!!!!! BUILT FORD TOUGH WITH CHEVY STUFF--sticker at Goodguys Last edited by 70C10Toejam; 04-25-2007 at 11:33 PM.

05-01-2007, 11:08 PM	#13
70C10Toejam Hellasick Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Death Moans, IA Posts: 876	Re: changing steering stop made any progress on this B.T. Knuckle???? mine is finally driveable...to be alligned soon. __________________ I keep two MAGNUMS in my desk. One's a gun, and I keep it loaded. The other's a bottle and it keeps ME loaded. I'm Tracer Bullet. (Calvin and Hobbes) This life was a test. It was only a test. If this had been an actual life, you would have received instructions on where to go and what to do. RED meat is not bad for you...FUZZY BLUE/GREEN MEAT is bad for you!!!!!!!!!!!!! BUILT FORD TOUGH WITH CHEVY STUFF--sticker at Goodguys

05-01-2007, 11:19 PM	#14
Bus Ted Knuckle Son of a gun Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Hot Springs, Arkansas Posts: 1,636	Re: changing steering stop I had visitors from out of state this weekend and did not get ANYTHING done! How much did you cut off? I want DETAILS!!! __________________ Bill BEATERS ARE NEATER

05-01-2007, 11:23 PM	#15
70C10Toejam Hellasick Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Death Moans, IA Posts: 876	Re: changing steering stop no cutting yet...but hopefully they will go under the grinder soon. __________________ I keep two MAGNUMS in my desk. One's a gun, and I keep it loaded. The other's a bottle and it keeps ME loaded. I'm Tracer Bullet. (Calvin and Hobbes) This life was a test. It was only a test. If this had been an actual life, you would have received instructions on where to go and what to do. RED meat is not bad for you...FUZZY BLUE/GREEN MEAT is bad for you!!!!!!!!!!!!! BUILT FORD TOUGH WITH CHEVY STUFF--sticker at Goodguys

05-02-2007, 12:03 AM	#16
Bus Ted Knuckle Son of a gun Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Hot Springs, Arkansas Posts: 1,636	Re: changing steering stop Aww man, I though you would do the hard work for me __________________ Bill BEATERS ARE NEATER



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05-02-2007, 12:10 AM	#17
70C10Toejam Hellasick Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Death Moans, IA Posts: 876	Re: changing steering stop I DID do all the hard work. ...just not on the stops __________________ I keep two MAGNUMS in my desk. One's a gun, and I keep it loaded. The other's a bottle and it keeps ME loaded. I'm Tracer Bullet. (Calvin and Hobbes) This life was a test. It was only a test. If this had been an actual life, you would have received instructions on where to go and what to do. RED meat is not bad for you...FUZZY BLUE/GREEN MEAT is bad for you!!!!!!!!!!!!! BUILT FORD TOUGH WITH CHEVY STUFF--sticker at Goodguys Last edited by 70C10Toejam; 05-02-2007 at 12:10 AM.

05-02-2007, 12:15 AM	#18
Bus Ted Knuckle Son of a gun Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Hot Springs, Arkansas Posts: 1,636	Re: changing steering stop I hear ya! Did all that myself ... __________________ Bill BEATERS ARE NEATER

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