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Longhorn Man · 12-03-2002, 02:15 AM

Yup...nothing but GM parts too. (the sticker said keep my GM truck all GM)

You can see here the placement and the cutting I did to the towers. The lower front corner was cut off with a plazma cutter and then cleaned up till it looked stiock, then I hogged out the two motor mount holes and connected them witht eh plazma cutter.
In reality, I should have trimmed up beyond the upper hole too. When i was dropping the engine into the frame rails, I had to 1/2 way remove a mount from the engine and convince it to go in. IF this pig ever comes out again, I will re-enginear the towers.

This is the part where my wife grabs my digi-cam and tells me to pose. I don't think she realizes I had been out in the 30 degree weather (plus 15 to 25 MPH winds) for about 2 hrs at this point.

You can't see the motor mounts bolted in...so you'll have to take my word for it.
The tranny guy never showed up the other day, and plus my fundage to seal up the tranny is all gone now too. However...the bottle jack is keeping the engine level quite nicely.
After this, it wa s a huge MILLER TIME. I went to bed happy and visioned burnouts every time my eyes shut. My wife said I have issues, but the voices in my head were saying VROOM VROOM...and in a very manly engine sound too.

Alexis · 12-03-2002, 03:05 AM

other then yukons jacks post yours is another project i look foward to reading about. man i bet thats one great relief. motor lookin goood in place. Cool gloves. good job man keep us posted.

*Randy70C-10* · 12-03-2002, 08:56 AM

Wow, that's awsome Andy!!!

hanssolo · 12-03-2002, 09:21 AM

Which engine is it Andy? Looks like stump-pulling time.

crazy longhorn · 12-03-2002, 09:36 AM

Lookin good Andy! I need to invest in a set of insulated coveralls. ......got the garage full,& will be doing my oil changes & minor stuff in the snowbank this yr

**Yukon Jack** · 12-03-2002, 10:10 AM

That's one phat motor if I don't say so myself. She's definitely gonna be unique. I'm like you, my mind is filled with vroom, vrooms too!

Terry'sToy · 12-03-2002, 10:37 PM

Cool!! Looks great. Will the heater box fit back in?? Man those motors are wide.
Don't worry my wife is certain that I have issues too. I don't know what she's getting at seeing as trucks were here first weren't they???

Have fun
Terry

**Palf70Step** · 12-03-2002, 11:02 PM

Looking good Andy (the truck). Maybe I'll see it fly by me inside of the GMC this summer.

Longhorn Man · 12-04-2002, 12:15 AM

Terry, I tossed the heater box on there a few weeks ago becouse I wasn't quite sure myself, but it fir no problem. This pic is with the engine about 3/8 inch higher than it is now.

Palf70...your more than welcome to make a p!ss stop here if you wanna stop by on your way through. I'm on the south wst side of Cols. about 6 miles south of I-70...exit 5 on I-270.

Terry'sToy · 12-04-2002, 11:24 AM

Sh!t you have lots of room. Cool. Man I can't wait to see the first big smokey burnout posted on here. Keep the toque on tight.
I'm workin outside too.
Terry

Earl Junior · 12-04-2002, 03:06 PM

Lookin' good!

I'm all set to start my swap Friday. Before I even started this I know exactly what to do. Your posts and pics have been a huge help!

How are you planning on running your heater lines? That is about the only thing I haven't figured out yet.

larouchedem · 12-04-2002, 05:20 PM

Hi Andy,

Looks good. Fyi - I swapped a $100 500 into a
'71 C20 a while back. It was a blast. I loved the old beater, but I had to sell it to help finance my current "frame off" C10 project.

I see one thing you might want to deal with though.

The open carb adapter is a bad thing. The flat part of the intake at the old carb location will cause mucho turbulence. If you want to deal with it, you can buy a [pricey] 4 hole adapter [can't remember the manufacturer]. It mates the 4 holes in the holley/afbs to the 4 holes in the QJ intake.

The other option is to use a sawzall, die grinder etc to cut the flange on the intake to create a split open design. I have done this, leaving just a thin dividing section between each side. This will allow the air/fuel to smoothly flow from the carb to the intake's plenum. Be warned though, it takes quite a bit of grinding/cutting to make the intake openings match the bottom of the adapter.
One nice thing is you can smooth the sharp edge at the bottom of the plenumn [leading into the ports] more easily while your at it once the flange is modified.
Keep those pics coming...
Dave Brode
'67 C-10 prostreet style project
twin turbo'd 512" Caddy

imaindianoutlaw · 12-04-2002, 05:55 PM

I hope the drivers side rockers are good to go? Good luck on the rest of the project! Looks sweet! Next thing is what headers?

**COBALT** · 12-04-2002, 06:53 PM

Yeah, that's impressive. Looks like a lot of work, but it will pay off!

Longhorn Man · 12-05-2002, 01:14 AM

Hmmm, I'll probably stick with the adapter I have now...it was free, and it gives me a little more of an excuse to get $250 from the wife for an eldebrock intake. One day anyways. Thanks for the heads up on that though. I kinda already knew...just never really thought about it much.
Drivers side rockers are kinda OK...it's the floor that has windows in it.

Headers is another tha'll have to wait a long time. I'll have to get Chevy big block headers for the chassis, then a flange kit for another 75 bucks, then pay some one to put the two together.

neonlarry · 12-05-2002, 02:08 AM

Quote:

It mates the 4 holes in the holley/afbs to the 4 holes in the QJ intake.

Or, you could just get a q-jet... An 800 cfm q-jet would be pretty easy and cheap to rebuild. Then all you need is a 1'' spacer, and you could spend the $250 on something other than the edelbrock intake.

larouchedem · 12-05-2002, 08:03 AM

neonlarry/Andy,

Fyi - a spacer for the Q-J should also be
a 4 hole design, rather than open, if the
intake isn't modified. The 4 hole Q-J spacer
is also more expensive than an open one.

I mentioned that I opened up my intake flange
on my beater, but fwiw- it was an open Q-J
spacer with a Q-J. Btw - I understand that my opinion on this issue is shared by the various
caddy gurus/vendors out there. Some of those
also feel that a 4 hole 2" high Q-J spacer is
better than a 1".
Dave

[/i]
Or, you could just get a q-jet... An 800 cfm q-jet would be pretty easy and cheap to rebuild. Then all you need is a 1'' spacer, and you could spend the $250 on something other than the edelbrock intake. [/QUOTE]

Longhorn Man · 12-06-2002, 01:33 AM

I doubt I would ever install a Q-jet onless I had to for a tail pipe snffer or something...and there are ways around that too. The Performer intake would make quite a bit more power...not that it maters. It isn't happening for quite a while.
larouchedem, you are right...but I doubt I'll be messin with this intake in that maner, and I am so dead broke that I can't afford NOT to use this free adapter.

12-03-2002, 02:15 AM	#1
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	In case you missed it...the Caddy engine is bolted in! Yup...nothing but GM parts too. (the sticker said keep my GM truck all GM) You can see here the placement and the cutting I did to the towers. The lower front corner was cut off with a plazma cutter and then cleaned up till it looked stiock, then I hogged out the two motor mount holes and connected them witht eh plazma cutter. In reality, I should have trimmed up beyond the upper hole too. When i was dropping the engine into the frame rails, I had to 1/2 way remove a mount from the engine and convince it to go in. IF this pig ever comes out again, I will re-enginear the towers. This is the part where my wife grabs my digi-cam and tells me to pose. I don't think she realizes I had been out in the 30 degree weather (plus 15 to 25 MPH winds) for about 2 hrs at this point. You can't see the motor mounts bolted in...so you'll have to take my word for it. The tranny guy never showed up the other day, and plus my fundage to seal up the tranny is all gone now too. However...the bottle jack is keeping the engine level quite nicely. After this, it wa s a huge MILLER TIME. I went to bed happy and visioned burnouts every time my eyes shut. My wife said I have issues, but the voices in my head were saying VROOM VROOM...and in a very manly engine sound too.

12-03-2002, 03:05 AM	#2
Alexis Member since 2000 Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Mountain View Ca / Mexico Posts: 7,879	way too cool other then yukons jacks post yours is another project i look foward to reading about. man i bet thats one great relief. motor lookin goood in place. Cool gloves. good job man keep us posted.

12-03-2002, 09:21 AM	#4
hanssolo Registered User Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: central Ill. USA Posts: 447	Which engine is it Andy? Looks like stump-pulling time. __________________ 69 C10 longbed: 357c.i. /TH400/3.73s/AC/ beige primer/saving $ for paint ______________________________

12-03-2002, 09:36 AM	#5
crazy longhorn Fabricate till you "puke" Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Ill Posts: 9,403	Lookin good Andy! I need to invest in a set of insulated coveralls. ......got the garage full,& will be doing my oil changes & minor stuff in the snowbank this yr __________________ 69 longhorn,4" chop,3/5 drop, 1/2 ton suspension/disc brakes,1 1/2" body drop,steel tilt clip, 5.3/Edelbrock rpm intake/600 carb, Hooker streetrod shorties,2 1/2" exhaust/ H pipe/50's Flows , 6 spd Richmond trans,12 bolt/ 3.40 gears....

12-03-2002, 10:10 AM	#6
Yukon Jack Post Whore Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Rose Hill, KS, USA Posts: 12,684	That's one phat motor if I don't say so myself. She's definitely gonna be unique. I'm like you, my mind is filled with vroom, vrooms too! __________________ 1970 Blazer with a 400 sbc and 4" lift 1980 Pontiac Trans Am, 455 Oldsmobile 2012 Kawasaki Concours 14

12-03-2002, 08:56 AM	#3
Randy70C-10 Account Suspended Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Virginia Beach, Va. U.S.A. Posts: 15,320	Wow, that's awsome Andy!!!

12-03-2002, 10:37 PM	#7
Terry'sToy Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Victoria B.C Posts: 109	Cool!! Looks great. Will the heater box fit back in?? Man those motors are wide. Don't worry my wife is certain that I have issues too. I don't know what she's getting at seeing as trucks were here first weren't they??? Have fun Terry __________________ 69 GMC 1/2 ton lwb, LS1, headers X-pipe 4L60E Yank 3500 stall 3.73 w/eaton brute force. moroso trick front springs,jeep rear springs, QA1's

12-03-2002, 11:02 PM	#8
Palf70Step State of Confusion! Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Gulfport, MS USA Posts: 46,816	Looking good Andy (the truck). Maybe I'll see it fly by me inside of the GMC this summer. __________________ Bill 1970 Chevy Custom/10 LWB Fleetside 2010 Toyota Tacoma PreRunner SR5 Double Cab - DD Member of Louisiana Classic Truck Club (LCTC) Bill's Gallery Life isn't tied with a bow, but it's still a gift. Live simply. Love generously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave the rest to God!

12-04-2002, 12:15 AM	#9
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	Terry, I tossed the heater box on there a few weeks ago becouse I wasn't quite sure myself, but it fir no problem. This pic is with the engine about 3/8 inch higher than it is now. Palf70...your more than welcome to make a p!ss stop here if you wanna stop by on your way through. I'm on the south wst side of Cols. about 6 miles south of I-70...exit 5 on I-270.

12-04-2002, 11:24 AM	#10
Terry'sToy Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Victoria B.C Posts: 109	Sh!t you have lots of room. Cool. Man I can't wait to see the first big smokey burnout posted on here. Keep the toque on tight. I'm workin outside too. Terry __________________ 69 GMC 1/2 ton lwb, LS1, headers X-pipe 4L60E Yank 3500 stall 3.73 w/eaton brute force. moroso trick front springs,jeep rear springs, QA1's

12-04-2002, 03:06 PM	#11
Earl Junior Cadillac power Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: North Idaho Posts: 296	Lookin' good! I'm all set to start my swap Friday. Before I even started this I know exactly what to do. Your posts and pics have been a huge help! How are you planning on running your heater lines? That is about the only thing I haven't figured out yet. __________________ Just for the record, if I'm down to my last potato, I'm not sharing it with a guy who wants to kill me so he can get a better supply of virgins in paradise. That lesson is a little thing I call Economics 101, infidel style. --Scott Adams author of Dilbert

12-04-2002, 05:20 PM	#12
larouchedem Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 36	swap - carb adapter Hi Andy, Looks good. Fyi - I swapped a $100 500 into a '71 C20 a while back. It was a blast. I loved the old beater, but I had to sell it to help finance my current "frame off" C10 project. I see one thing you might want to deal with though. The open carb adapter is a bad thing. The flat part of the intake at the old carb location will cause mucho turbulence. If you want to deal with it, you can buy a [pricey] 4 hole adapter [can't remember the manufacturer]. It mates the 4 holes in the holley/afbs to the 4 holes in the QJ intake. The other option is to use a sawzall, die grinder etc to cut the flange on the intake to create a split open design. I have done this, leaving just a thin dividing section between each side. This will allow the air/fuel to smoothly flow from the carb to the intake's plenum. Be warned though, it takes quite a bit of grinding/cutting to make the intake openings match the bottom of the adapter. One nice thing is you can smooth the sharp edge at the bottom of the plenumn [leading into the ports] more easily while your at it once the flange is modified. Keep those pics coming... Dave Brode '67 C-10 prostreet style project twin turbo'd 512" Caddy

12-04-2002, 05:55 PM	#13
imaindianoutlaw GMC SHORT FLEET F/S Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: SOUTH WILLIAMSPORT PENNSYLVANNIA Posts: 2,117	I hope the drivers side rockers are good to go? Good luck on the rest of the project! Looks sweet! Next thing is what headers? __________________ CHARLES WADE HEIN HVACR FOREMAN. LEWISBURG U.S.P.

12-04-2002, 06:53 PM	#14
COBALT Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Seattle, WA, USA Posts: 5,817	Yeah, that's impressive. Looks like a lot of work, but it will pay off! __________________ '69 3/4 ton C20 2wd-350ci/TH400 '69 3/4 ton Custom 20 2wd-350ci/4sp Manual '99 2wd 5.7 Chevy Tahoe Seattle, WA.

12-05-2002, 01:14 AM	#15
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	Hmmm, I'll probably stick with the adapter I have now...it was free, and it gives me a little more of an excuse to get $250 from the wife for an eldebrock intake. One day anyways. Thanks for the heads up on that though. I kinda already knew...just never really thought about it much. Drivers side rockers are kinda OK...it's the floor that has windows in it. Headers is another tha'll have to wait a long time. I'll have to get Chevy big block headers for the chassis, then a flange kit for another 75 bucks, then pay some one to put the two together.



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12-05-2002, 08:03 AM	#17
larouchedem Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 36	neonlarry/Andy, Fyi - a spacer for the Q-J should also be a 4 hole design, rather than open, if the intake isn't modified. The 4 hole Q-J spacer is also more expensive than an open one. I mentioned that I opened up my intake flange on my beater, but fwiw- it was an open Q-J spacer with a Q-J. Btw - I understand that my opinion on this issue is shared by the various caddy gurus/vendors out there. Some of those also feel that a 4 hole 2" high Q-J spacer is better than a 1". Dave [/i] Or, you could just get a q-jet... An 800 cfm q-jet would be pretty easy and cheap to rebuild. Then all you need is a 1'' spacer, and you could spend the $250 on something other than the edelbrock intake. [/QUOTE]

12-06-2002, 01:33 AM	#18
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	I doubt I would ever install a Q-jet onless I had to for a tail pipe snffer or something...and there are ways around that too. The Performer intake would make quite a bit more power...not that it maters. It isn't happening for quite a while. larouchedem, you are right...but I doubt I'll be messin with this intake in that maner, and I am so dead broke that I can't afford NOT to use this free adapter.

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