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3/4tonterror · 06-07-2007, 06:24 PM

I just put a 8in lift in my 70. I need to know if the steering linkage is right. [PITMANARM TO KNUCKLE ARM] It looks like it is at to much of an angle.I used the raised knuckle arm that came with the kit, but it still looks wrong. Do i need a droped pitmanarm too. Any help and pics of yours would be great. thanks P.S. PLEASE DONT TELL ME TO GO TO CROSSOVER STEERING, THIS WILL NEVER EVEN BE PUT IN 4 WD.[STREET ONLY.] Name: IM000404.jpg
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jeffspower · 06-07-2007, 06:39 PM

Don't drive it that way! That's a severe enough angle to bind the sockets & possibly tear them apart. You will need the drop pittman, & possibly even an offset drag link. Keep in mind the front end will drop some when you get the truck fully assembled- I'd wait & see if you need the offset drag link after it is all back together. And yes, you want it as close to flat horizontal as possible. Even with everything right, you will probably have a lot of bumpsteer with such a big arch front spring.

**kwmech** · 06-07-2007, 06:45 PM

Raised steering arm AND a dropped pittman for that much lift

3/4tonterror · 06-07-2007, 07:09 PM

Where would i get them, everthing i see listed says 73/up, or would that work?

1969k10stepside · 06-07-2007, 07:38 PM

I'm just curious,why put that much lift on and not even use it as a 4wd? I can see people doing that with small lifts but not with an 8" suspension lift.

3/4tonterror · 06-07-2007, 07:46 PM

69step, its what i want,why put airbags and lay fram when you cant drive that way, same reason personal choice.

jeffspower · 06-07-2007, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by 3/4tonterror

Where would i get them, everthing i see listed says 73/up, or would that work?

Yep, the pitman shaft splines are the same.

Post some pics when you are done with everything, looks like it's gonna be a nicely detailed truck

GREASEMONKEY72 · 06-07-2007, 09:03 PM

deffinitly to much angle, and everything ive heard the 73+ stuff will work

deffinitly dont forget to post pictures of that thing when you get it goin

dubs68SWB · 06-07-2007, 10:11 PM

I think you messed up and put one of the tie rod arms on instead of the pitman arm. Don't they make pitman arms with some serious step? I know nothing about 4x4's......I drive under them!

msgross · 06-07-2007, 10:16 PM

wow, lotta lift... crossover isn't just for the serious off-roader. Other trucks have them factory (Ferds do). Bump steer can happen on a dirt trail or your mall parking lot speed bump....

Nice truck though..

jeffspower · 06-07-2007, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by msgross

wow, lotta lift... crossover isn't just for the serious off-roader. Other trucks have them factory (Ferds do). Bump steer can happen on a dirt trail or your mall parking lot speed bump....

Nice truck though..

Don't take our advice as criticism, we just don't want you to be dissapointed in how it drives when you get it done. Bumpsteer, darting, tracking rutted asphalt and a big turning radius will be inevitable with an OE type setup. The arch of the springs working in the same plane as the drag link will be what causes this.

3/4tonterror · 06-08-2007, 06:17 AM

Thanks, guys. Ill see how it drives then decide again on the crossover.

vtblazer · 06-08-2007, 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by 3/4tonterror

Thanks, guys. Ill see how it drives then decide again on the crossover.

Simlpy put, a cross over set up will be safer and work better with that much lift.

Cross over was invented for a reason, be smart, be safe.

**special-K** · 06-08-2007, 08:30 AM

Look at it this way:Even sitting still you are at an extreme angle that you`d get into off road with less or no lift.
I didn`t know there was a dropped pitman arm made.I`ve only seen the dropped drag link and raised steering arm.Who offers a dropped pitman arm?

msgross · 06-08-2007, 08:49 AM

Skyjacker has them...

http://www.skyjacker.com/products-se...l=K10%20PICKUP

RedZ71 · 06-08-2007, 10:31 AM

yall might enjoy this page

http://128.83.80.200/taco/scarysteering.html

3/4tonterror · 06-08-2007, 11:05 AM

i dont know what to say about some of those trucks.

va_tlc · 06-08-2007, 05:09 PM

im not up on all the lift stuff.. but you sure put some detail work is awsome. great job.. ohh and is it gonna come out your shop? looks like u may have to take the tires off to roll it out.. nice truck keep pics posted for us

3/4tonterror · 06-08-2007, 07:05 PM

i had to roll it out today and turn it around to take the bed off. Yes i had to take the tires off to do it. thanks for the compliments.

06-07-2007, 06:24 PM	#1
3/4tonterror Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: jaffrey,NH Posts: 325	Is This Right Or Not??????? I just put a 8in lift in my 70. I need to know if the steering linkage is right. [PITMANARM TO KNUCKLE ARM] It looks like it is at to much of an angle.I used the raised knuckle arm that came with the kit, but it still looks wrong. Do i need a droped pitmanarm too. Any help and pics of yours would be great. thanks P.S. PLEASE DONT TELL ME TO GO TO CROSSOVER STEERING, THIS WILL NEVER EVEN BE PUT IN 4 WD.[STREET ONLY.]

06-07-2007, 06:39 PM	#2
jeffspower Well, Whoop-dee-do! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Easton, Mo. pop.- me & scarcely a few others Posts: 2,302	Re: Is This Right Or Not??????? Don't drive it that way! That's a severe enough angle to bind the sockets & possibly tear them apart. You will need the drop pittman, & possibly even an offset drag link. Keep in mind the front end will drop some when you get the truck fully assembled- I'd wait & see if you need the offset drag link after it is all back together. And yes, you want it as close to flat horizontal as possible. Even with everything right, you will probably have a lot of bumpsteer with such a big arch front spring. __________________ '68 GMC shortbox 4x4 350/SM465/T221- bought it in '83 SOLD '72 K20 500 Cad/TH400/NP205 SOLD '92 Chevy 2500 6.5 mech TD 4L80E crusty daily driver '72 Monte Carlo... sweet low mile toy '11 Dodge Challenger IE 392 6spd... midlife car

06-07-2007, 06:45 PM	#3
kwmech Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Colfax-California Posts: 8,483	Re: Is This Right Or Not??????? Raised steering arm AND a dropped pittman for that much lift

06-07-2007, 07:09 PM	#4
3/4tonterror Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: jaffrey,NH Posts: 325	Re: Is This Right Or Not??????? Where would i get them, everthing i see listed says 73/up, or would that work?

06-07-2007, 07:38 PM	#5
1969k10stepside Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: USA Posts: 21,020	Re: Is This Right Or Not??????? I'm just curious,why put that much lift on and not even use it as a 4wd? I can see people doing that with small lifts but not with an 8" suspension lift. Last edited by 1969k10stepside; 06-07-2007 at 07:42 PM.

06-07-2007, 07:46 PM	#6
3/4tonterror Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: jaffrey,NH Posts: 325	Re: Is This Right Or Not??????? 69step, its what i want,why put airbags and lay fram when you cant drive that way, same reason personal choice.

06-07-2007, 09:03 PM	#8
GREASEMONKEY72 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Bakersfield,CA Posts: 7,893	Re: Is This Right Or Not??????? deffinitly to much angle, and everything ive heard the 73+ stuff will work deffinitly dont forget to post pictures of that thing when you get it goin __________________ -steven Alte Seele S.S. "Allison" '72 C/10 LWB 350SB/TH350 - DD PITBULL IS NOT A CRIME

06-07-2007, 10:11 PM	#9
dubs68SWB Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Bend, OR Posts: 110	Re: Is This Right Or Not??????? I think you messed up and put one of the tie rod arms on instead of the pitman arm. Don't they make pitman arms with some serious step? I know nothing about 4x4's......I drive under them! __________________ '68 Chevy SWB with 460 BBC Muncie M-22 and Eaton posi rear w/ 3.73's Corvette rallys with mini derby caps Sick horsepower and torque

06-07-2007, 10:16 PM	#10
msgross Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Central PA Posts: 12,201	Re: Is This Right Or Not??????? wow, lotta lift... crossover isn't just for the serious off-roader. Other trucks have them factory (Ferds do). Bump steer can happen on a dirt trail or your mall parking lot speed bump.... Nice truck though.. __________________ The Garage: 1968 K-10 SWB - "Project Money Pit" 1996 Z-71 - "huntin rig" 1969 C-10 LWB (SOLD) "Project flip that truck or else" 1993 Passport, F@rd 1-ton (SOLD)"Project Cousin Eddie" My Garage Build "The 1,000 footer"

06-08-2007, 06:17 AM	#12
3/4tonterror Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: jaffrey,NH Posts: 325	Re: Is This Right Or Not??????? Thanks, guys. Ill see how it drives then decide again on the crossover.

06-08-2007, 08:30 AM	#14
special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,862	Re: Is This Right Or Not??????? Look at it this way:Even sitting still you are at an extreme angle that you`d get into off road with less or no lift. I didn`t know there was a dropped pitman arm made.I`ve only seen the dropped drag link and raised steering arm.Who offers a dropped pitman arm? __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~

06-08-2007, 08:49 AM	#15
msgross Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Central PA Posts: 12,201	Re: Is This Right Or Not??????? Skyjacker has them... http://www.skyjacker.com/products-se...l=K10%20PICKUP __________________ The Garage: 1968 K-10 SWB - "Project Money Pit" 1996 Z-71 - "huntin rig" 1969 C-10 LWB (SOLD) "Project flip that truck or else" 1993 Passport, F@rd 1-ton (SOLD)"Project Cousin Eddie" My Garage Build "The 1,000 footer"

06-08-2007, 10:31 AM	#16
RedZ71 Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 246	Re: Is This Right Or Not??????? yall might enjoy this page http://128.83.80.200/taco/scarysteering.html __________________ Jonathan 2001 ECSB Silverado Z71 1971 LB C10 Custom www.z71silverado.com

06-08-2007, 11:05 AM	#17
3/4tonterror Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: jaffrey,NH Posts: 325	Re: Is This Right Or Not??????? i dont know what to say about some of those trucks.

06-08-2007, 05:09 PM	#18
va_tlc Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: VIRGINIA Posts: 905	Re: Is This Right Or Not??????? im not up on all the lift stuff.. but you sure put some detail work is awsome. great job.. ohh and is it gonna come out your shop? looks like u may have to take the tires off to roll it out.. nice truck keep pics posted for us __________________ 1969 rs 1966fastback 1969swbc/10 2006gt 1972swb4x4



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3/4tonterror Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: jaffrey,NH Posts: 325	Re: Is This Right Or Not??????? i had to roll it out today and turn it around to take the bed off. Yes i had to take the tires off to do it. thanks for the compliments.

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