1/2 Ton or 3/4 Ton? - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

semperfidoordie · 05-31-2007, 02:06 PM

I know this may be a simple question but it's been boggling my mind. I have a 72 LWB C-10 or C-20 4x4 not sure which. A friend was trying to tell me it was heavy duty 1/2 ton running gear but it's an 8 lugger...kind of confused..

Walts_restoration · 05-31-2007, 02:25 PM

could be a halfton with 3/4 ton running gear, but being an 8 lugger its a 3/4 or higher. I have a heavy half, and its a five lugger (2wd) and two heavy duty blazes (75+86)and they are six luggers. Dont know about 72s, but im pretty sure its a 3/4. Lose your fenders? thats how you usually tlel what it orignally was.

1969k10stepside · 05-31-2007, 02:44 PM

If its a 8 lug front and rear,it's a 3/4 ton.Really though the only difference between a 1/2 and 3/4 ton is the rear axle.The front only has different hubs to match the bolt pattern of the rear.Look at the VIN and post it,then we can tell you.

semperfidoordie · 05-31-2007, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Walts_restoration

could be a halfton with 3/4 ton running gear, but being an 8 lugger its a 3/4 or higher. I have a heavy half, and its a five lugger (2wd) and two heavy duty blazes (75+86)and they are six luggers. Dont know about 72s, but im pretty sure its a 3/4. Lose your fenders? thats how you usually tlel what it orignally was.

what do you mean lose my fenders? I'm kinda confused..i thought it was a 3/4 too...not sure...

Longhorn Man · 05-31-2007, 03:52 PM

the fenders should have C/10, or C/20 badges... but the badges coulda been removed, fenders swapped... what ever.
Post the first 4 digits of your vin, we'll tell you what the TRUCK was originally, and then we'll know if it's been modified or not.

semperfidoordie · 05-31-2007, 04:01 PM

It has Cheyenne 10 badges..here's the VIN: CKE142S118264

Kool K5 · 05-31-2007, 04:11 PM

Well the Cheyenne 10 badge would mean its a 1/2 ton, and the 4th digit of your vin "1" also means its a 1/2 ton. It would be a 2 if it was a 3/4 ton. So I guess at some point someone swaped axles.

semperfidoordie · 05-31-2007, 04:43 PM

ok that makes sense...i think that's why i was so confused...didn't consider the axle swap...now i'm wondering about the brakes...where could I get a drum brake kit and in what price range?

Longhorn Man · 05-31-2007, 05:56 PM

that's where it gets fun.... there's no tellin what you have under there now.

semperfidoordie · 05-31-2007, 06:01 PM

Currently it has drum brakes on the rear and disks up front...however they don't work worth a damn...I'm going to try re bleeding them and then go through the steps that I got in another thread...if that doesn't work i'll let you all know

GREASEMONKEY72 · 05-31-2007, 08:08 PM

if youve got to get new brake parts just call it a 72 3/4 and see if they fit

semperfidoordie · 05-31-2007, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by GREASEMONKEY72

if youve got to get new brake parts just call it a 72 3/4 and see if they fit

I take back my previous statement..I was wrong..I came home and double checked they are 6 lugs which makes it a half ton...

Kool K5 · 05-31-2007, 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by semperfidoordie

I take back my previous statement..I was wrong..I came home and double checked they are 6 lugs which makes it a half ton...

opps. lol

Longhorn Man · 06-01-2007, 12:33 AM

LOL
I wanted to ask that when the comment HD 1/2 ton came up.
All 4X4 trucks had 6 lug wheels.
At least you know what to ask for on your brake parts now.

semperfidoordie · 06-01-2007, 09:22 AM

haha yeah...now i feel like a little bit of a dunce haha

Longhorn Man · 06-01-2007, 02:56 PM

Don't feel like a dunce, it's almost a common question.
You'll be amazed at how many ppl see 6 lugs and call it a heavy half. Considering heavy halfs had 5 lugs, and weren't even created till the mid 70's... it'll kinda surprise you haw many ppl call them that.
you'd have been a dunce if you never asked.

semperfidoordie · 06-01-2007, 02:59 PM

hey Longhorn would you look at my brakes and tranny post and see what you got for me?

Longhorn Man · 06-01-2007, 03:18 PM

hmmm, I just went through the boards I look at... if I didn't comment, then PM me with a link and I'll look at it. (I may have comented and just don't remember)

1969k10stepside · 06-01-2007, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Longhorn Man

All 4X4 trucks had 6 lug wheels

All 1/2 ton 4wds had 6 lugs.They had Dana 44 front axles and 12 bolt rears stock.The 3/4 tons had 8 lug with Eaton rear on Chevy and Dana 60 on GMC.Still had the dana 44 front but with 8 lug hubs/brakes..There was no stock 1 ton 4wds in the 67-72 era but the 73+ era with the 1 ton 4wd drivetrain had 8 lugs too

Longhorn Man · 06-01-2007, 04:38 PM

DOH!
Good catch... and you are 100% right on the one ton info, and the lug count on the K/10 and K/20.
I'll have to take your word on the eaton/chevy and dana/GMC info... same with the front end stuff. I never paid much attention to the 4X4 stuff.

semperfidoordie · 06-19-2007, 08:16 PM

Got the brakes and tranny fixed haha...dug the inch and a half of muck out of the master cylinder...bled all the nastiness out...refilled her with brake fluid and tada she stops haha...weird how that works huh? haha and the tranny was a simple vacuum line that was non existent...now I gotta start looking into lifts

05-31-2007, 02:06 PM	#1
semperfidoordie Fix It Till It's Broke Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: 29 Palms, CA Posts: 1,616	1/2 Ton or 3/4 Ton? I know this may be a simple question but it's been boggling my mind. I have a 72 LWB C-10 or C-20 4x4 not sure which. A friend was trying to tell me it was heavy duty 1/2 ton running gear but it's an 8 lugger...kind of confused..

05-31-2007, 02:25 PM	#2
Walts_restoration Real Projects never die Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Lawrence, kansas Posts: 1,508	Re: 1/2 Ton or 3/4 Ton? could be a halfton with 3/4 ton running gear, but being an 8 lugger its a 3/4 or higher. I have a heavy half, and its a five lugger (2wd) and two heavy duty blazes (75+86)and they are six luggers. Dont know about 72s, but im pretty sure its a 3/4. Lose your fenders? thats how you usually tlel what it orignally was. __________________ Ill put it this way, ive got a few lawn ornaments My name tag says Ryan KansasTwister On other forums

05-31-2007, 02:44 PM	#3
1969k10stepside Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: USA Posts: 21,019	Re: 1/2 Ton or 3/4 Ton? If its a 8 lug front and rear,it's a 3/4 ton.Really though the only difference between a 1/2 and 3/4 ton is the rear axle.The front only has different hubs to match the bolt pattern of the rear.Look at the VIN and post it,then we can tell you.

05-31-2007, 03:52 PM	#5
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,690	Re: 1/2 Ton or 3/4 Ton? the fenders should have C/10, or C/20 badges... but the badges coulda been removed, fenders swapped... what ever. Post the first 4 digits of your vin, we'll tell you what the TRUCK was originally, and then we'll know if it's been modified or not.

05-31-2007, 04:01 PM	#6
semperfidoordie Fix It Till It's Broke Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: 29 Palms, CA Posts: 1,616	Re: 1/2 Ton or 3/4 Ton? It has Cheyenne 10 badges..here's the VIN: CKE142S118264

05-31-2007, 04:11 PM	#7
Kool K5 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Niverville, Mb Posts: 88	Re: 1/2 Ton or 3/4 Ton? Well the Cheyenne 10 badge would mean its a 1/2 ton, and the 4th digit of your vin "1" also means its a 1/2 ton. It would be a 2 if it was a 3/4 ton. So I guess at some point someone swaped axles. __________________ 70 Blazer 4x4 305/sm465/np205 80 Buick LeSabre Limited 72 Honda CB350F 77 Honda Cb750K 00 Ducati Monster M900ie

05-31-2007, 04:43 PM	#8
semperfidoordie Fix It Till It's Broke Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: 29 Palms, CA Posts: 1,616	Re: 1/2 Ton or 3/4 Ton? ok that makes sense...i think that's why i was so confused...didn't consider the axle swap...now i'm wondering about the brakes...where could I get a drum brake kit and in what price range? __________________ Tony Black Beauty: 85 C-10 SOLD! Great White: 69 LWB Custom Camper/20 SOLD! Blue Dragon: 72 K-10 SOLD! The Tank 77 K-10 KIA panhandler62: Just don't search for "trannys" no matter how hard yours shifts -- you just won't get what you are looking for. I Made The Official So Cal Board Meet

05-31-2007, 05:56 PM	#9
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,690	Re: 1/2 Ton or 3/4 Ton? that's where it gets fun.... there's no tellin what you have under there now.

05-31-2007, 06:01 PM	#10
semperfidoordie Fix It Till It's Broke Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: 29 Palms, CA Posts: 1,616	Re: 1/2 Ton or 3/4 Ton? Currently it has drum brakes on the rear and disks up front...however they don't work worth a damn...I'm going to try re bleeding them and then go through the steps that I got in another thread...if that doesn't work i'll let you all know __________________ Tony Black Beauty: 85 C-10 SOLD! Great White: 69 LWB Custom Camper/20 SOLD! Blue Dragon: 72 K-10 SOLD! The Tank 77 K-10 KIA panhandler62: Just don't search for "trannys" no matter how hard yours shifts -- you just won't get what you are looking for. I Made The Official So Cal Board Meet Last edited by semperfidoordie; 05-31-2007 at 06:02 PM. Reason: forgot to add something

05-31-2007, 08:08 PM	#11
GREASEMONKEY72 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Bakersfield,CA Posts: 7,893	Re: 1/2 Ton or 3/4 Ton? if youve got to get new brake parts just call it a 72 3/4 and see if they fit __________________ -steven Alte Seele S.S. "Allison" '72 C/10 LWB 350SB/TH350 - DD PITBULL IS NOT A CRIME

06-01-2007, 12:33 AM	#14
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,690	Re: 1/2 Ton or 3/4 Ton? LOL I wanted to ask that when the comment HD 1/2 ton came up. All 4X4 trucks had 6 lug wheels. At least you know what to ask for on your brake parts now.

06-01-2007, 09:22 AM	#15
semperfidoordie Fix It Till It's Broke Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: 29 Palms, CA Posts: 1,616	Re: 1/2 Ton or 3/4 Ton? haha yeah...now i feel like a little bit of a dunce haha __________________ Tony Black Beauty: 85 C-10 SOLD! Great White: 69 LWB Custom Camper/20 SOLD! Blue Dragon: 72 K-10 SOLD! The Tank 77 K-10 KIA panhandler62: Just don't search for "trannys" no matter how hard yours shifts -- you just won't get what you are looking for. I Made The Official So Cal Board Meet

06-01-2007, 02:56 PM	#16
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,690	Re: 1/2 Ton or 3/4 Ton? Don't feel like a dunce, it's almost a common question. You'll be amazed at how many ppl see 6 lugs and call it a heavy half. Considering heavy halfs had 5 lugs, and weren't even created till the mid 70's... it'll kinda surprise you haw many ppl call them that. you'd have been a dunce if you never asked.

06-01-2007, 02:59 PM	#17
semperfidoordie Fix It Till It's Broke Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: 29 Palms, CA Posts: 1,616	Re: 1/2 Ton or 3/4 Ton? hey Longhorn would you look at my brakes and tranny post and see what you got for me? __________________ Tony Black Beauty: 85 C-10 SOLD! Great White: 69 LWB Custom Camper/20 SOLD! Blue Dragon: 72 K-10 SOLD! The Tank 77 K-10 KIA panhandler62: Just don't search for "trannys" no matter how hard yours shifts -- you just won't get what you are looking for. I Made The Official So Cal Board Meet

06-01-2007, 03:18 PM	#18
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,690	Re: 1/2 Ton or 3/4 Ton? hmmm, I just went through the boards I look at... if I didn't comment, then PM me with a link and I'll look at it. (I may have comented and just don't remember)



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06-01-2007, 04:38 PM	#20
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,690	Re: 1/2 Ton or 3/4 Ton? DOH! Good catch... and you are 100% right on the one ton info, and the lug count on the K/10 and K/20. I'll have to take your word on the eaton/chevy and dana/GMC info... same with the front end stuff. I never paid much attention to the 4X4 stuff.

06-19-2007, 08:16 PM	#21
semperfidoordie Fix It Till It's Broke Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: 29 Palms, CA Posts: 1,616	Re: 1/2 Ton or 3/4 Ton? Got the brakes and tranny fixed haha...dug the inch and a half of muck out of the master cylinder...bled all the nastiness out...refilled her with brake fluid and tada she stops haha...weird how that works huh? haha and the tranny was a simple vacuum line that was non existent...now I gotta start looking into lifts __________________ Tony Black Beauty: 85 C-10 SOLD! Great White: 69 LWB Custom Camper/20 SOLD! Blue Dragon: 72 K-10 SOLD! The Tank 77 K-10 KIA panhandler62: Just don't search for "trannys" no matter how hard yours shifts -- you just won't get what you are looking for. I Made The Official So Cal Board Meet

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