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Sam_in_AZ · 07-24-2007, 02:33 AM

Hi to all... new to the site today... i've been reading & learning alot over the last few days. I have a 64 short step that's been sitting in the AZ desert for 12 years. Been crankin' on it for a couple months and am about to stuff a temproray motor in so I can get it mobile!!

I have a couple of questions for you...
#1 is a clutch config question...
the original (as i got it) was a 1965 327 w/ manual 3 speed. i've removed the 327 and am replacing with a temporary 1980 267 small block. problem is that the 267 does NOT have the tap cast in the block to receive the clutch assy bolt... (it had a TH350 on it) does anyone have a solution/vendor for this issue?

#2
been reading and am thinking that my parts truck - a 1980 1/2 ton with PDB will be a bolt up for the entire front suspension sytem... is that correct?

Thanks!

Jonboy · 07-24-2007, 08:45 AM

I am not sure about #1, but #2 is correct. Since you do not have the torsion bar front, you really don't need to swap the front crossmember (unless you really want to), but you can just swap the control arms, spindles, etc.

jchav62 · 07-24-2007, 09:40 AM

#2 is correct. Jonboy is right though, there's no need to swap the entire setup, just spindles, etc...Actually, I could be wrong, but I think you just need to swap ball joints and spindles. Someone can correct me on that if I'm wrong...

As for question #1, does that block have a space where you can drill and tap it to use the old bolt of the 327? Are you planning on keeping it 3-speed? If you plan on converting it to auto in the near future, do so right away, it's an easy conversion.

Good luck with you project and welcome...

64GMCHorsepower · 07-24-2007, 10:50 AM

Welcome from Alabama....

BTW....

Chad

Sam_in_AZ · 07-24-2007, 12:14 PM

Thanks for the input guys.
Am planning on keeping the manual 4 a while... 4spd in the near future tho...

am trying to get a decent 'before' pic up asap

.... lets try this...

protrash64 · 07-24-2007, 11:18 PM

Nice to see yet another Zonie on here..........I wouldnt hurry to get that going unless you got a/c with that new engine! The weather has sucked!!!!!!!

Stepside65 · 07-24-2007, 11:22 PM

Welcome from blazing New Mexico. Looks like you have a solid truck to start with. Looking forward to future pics of this truck. Good luck man.

chevy283 · 07-24-2007, 11:36 PM

The side emblems are for a 66 c10, so you may have a 66, unless someone swap them. Nice project tho.

six4flat · 07-25-2007, 12:14 AM

welcome from the bay area, cali

Sam_in_AZ · 07-25-2007, 10:18 AM

Thanks for the input on the front DB's guys. my wallet is breathing a bit easier

.
As for the '80 parts truck, yes it has A/C, PS, elec windows all that are planned for transplant in the 64.

Protrash -
where are you in Mesa? nice looking truck in your avatar - would like to see a few pix of that baby!

**yote1234** · 07-25-2007, 11:20 AM

welcome brother desert rat.... im at 60 & ironwood..

Sam_in_AZ · 07-25-2007, 11:28 AM

Hey Yote - we're nayba's!! I'm just 5 minutes down the 60 at kings Ranch Road!

**yote1234** · 07-25-2007, 12:10 PM

if you go north on kings ranch rd to baseline and make a bunch of lefts and rights you will be on cloudview dr. i bought 3 acres there...next to golf course...

L0WRIDE · 07-25-2007, 04:54 PM

Welcome from New Zealand

**Captainfab** · 07-29-2007, 01:20 AM

Welcome from Idaho!
Regarding question #1....I had that problem before and I just made a bracket out of 1/4" x 1" flat bar that attached to the forward ball stud boss, went towards the rear with a hole for the new location for the ball stud and wraped around to one of the bellhousing bolts. I hope that helps

Sam_in_AZ · 08-07-2007, 04:02 PM

A bit of progress...
Finally got the new clutch linkage figured out, fabbed & installed. It's not the prettiest welding job, but I think it'll hold up under the pressure. also got the engine bay cleaned up and was ready to install the temp 267 this last weekend but after 'slightly' raising the tranny for a better angle to put it together - realized the PO never had the tail of the tranny bolted down - cuz he doesn't have the correct cross member! drat!

so now i need to locate the proper X-member... no yard within a reasonable distance has one... they just say the usual - "come on out & take a look...."

Anyone know of any aftermarket mfgs that carry manual tranny X-members?

**slepysal** · 08-07-2007, 04:14 PM

Nice work!! and Welcome from San Jose Ca.

07-24-2007, 09:40 AM	#3
jchav62 1962 C-10 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Las Vegas, New Mexico Posts: 4,978	Re: 64 Project in the desert #2 is correct. Jonboy is right though, there's no need to swap the entire setup, just spindles, etc...Actually, I could be wrong, but I think you just need to swap ball joints and spindles. Someone can correct me on that if I'm wrong... As for question #1, does that block have a space where you can drill and tap it to use the old bolt of the 327? Are you planning on keeping it 3-speed? If you plan on converting it to auto in the near future, do so right away, it's an easy conversion. Good luck with you project and welcome... __________________ Joseph Chavez "See the USA in a Chevrolet!!" ......................_____ .........________//__{\_____ ,,,,,,,/__(O)___//___/__(O)_/ 1962 C10 Shortbed Fleetside 327/th350 GV overdrive 1974 C10 Longbed Fleetside 350/th350 "The Trash Truck" 1999 Chevy 2500 OBS, Longbed 5.7/4L80E 4x4 2015 GMC Sierra SLE 1500 4x4

07-24-2007, 10:50 AM	#4
64GMCHorsepower Justified! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Valencia, Ca Posts: 1,366	Re: 64 Project in the desert Welcome from Alabama.... BTW.... Chad __________________ Chad 1964 GMC Fleetside Shortbed....350/700R4 tranny

07-24-2007, 12:14 PM	#5
Sam_in_AZ Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Gold Canyon, Arizona Posts: 35	Re: 64 Project in the desert Thanks for the input guys. Am planning on keeping the manual 4 a while... 4spd in the near future tho... am trying to get a decent 'before' pic up asap .... lets try this... Attached Images Last edited by Sam_in_AZ; 07-24-2007 at 12:59 PM. Reason: Adding pic

07-24-2007, 11:18 PM	#6
protrash64 Resistance is Futile Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Mesa,Arizona Posts: 3,520	Re: 64 Project in the desert Nice to see yet another Zonie on here..........I wouldnt hurry to get that going unless you got a/c with that new engine! The weather has sucked!!!!!!! __________________ 64 CHEVY PICK-UP > http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...otrash+re-hash 64 CARRYALL >http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...=1964+suburban 66 LB >http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=427852 STRENGTH/DETERMINATION/MERCILESS/FOREVER .......posted via stationary device

07-24-2007, 11:22 PM	#7
Stepside65 Still Truckless! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Valrico, Florida Posts: 3,166	Re: 64 Project in the desert Welcome from blazing New Mexico. Looks like you have a solid truck to start with. Looking forward to future pics of this truck. Good luck man. __________________ ~James Truckless 2009 Hyundai Sonata<~~Wife's sedanomatic 1997 Nissan Pickup Father-in-law's tonka toy I am forced to drive Founder of The 60-66 Club Tutor Et Ultor

07-24-2007, 02:33 AM	#1
Sam_in_AZ Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Gold Canyon, Arizona Posts: 35	64 Project in the desert Hi to all... new to the site today... i've been reading & learning alot over the last few days. I have a 64 short step that's been sitting in the AZ desert for 12 years. Been crankin' on it for a couple months and am about to stuff a temproray motor in so I can get it mobile!! I have a couple of questions for you... #1 is a clutch config question... the original (as i got it) was a 1965 327 w/ manual 3 speed. i've removed the 327 and am replacing with a temporary 1980 267 small block. problem is that the 267 does NOT have the tap cast in the block to receive the clutch assy bolt... (it had a TH350 on it) does anyone have a solution/vendor for this issue? #2 been reading and am thinking that my parts truck - a 1980 1/2 ton with PDB will be a bolt up for the entire front suspension sytem... is that correct? Thanks!

07-24-2007, 08:45 AM	#2
Jonboy Slots go on anything! Join Date: May 2003 Location: Richardson, TX Posts: 5,957	Re: 64 Project in the desert I am not sure about #1, but #2 is correct. Since you do not have the torsion bar front, you really don't need to swap the front crossmember (unless you really want to), but you can just swap the control arms, spindles, etc.

07-24-2007, 11:36 PM	#8
chevy283 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: wilson oklahoma Posts: 367	Re: 64 Project in the desert The side emblems are for a 66 c10, so you may have a 66, unless someone swap them. Nice project tho. __________________ 65 c10 tore apart 70 c10 305/350th

07-25-2007, 12:14 AM	#9
six4flat Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 313	Re: 64 Project in the desert welcome from the bay area, cali

07-25-2007, 10:18 AM	#10
Sam_in_AZ Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Gold Canyon, Arizona Posts: 35	Re: 64 Project in the desert Thanks for the input on the front DB's guys. my wallet is breathing a bit easier . As for the '80 parts truck, yes it has A/C, PS, elec windows all that are planned for transplant in the 64. Protrash - where are you in Mesa? nice looking truck in your avatar - would like to see a few pix of that baby!

07-25-2007, 11:20 AM	#11
yote1234 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Gold Canyon Arizona Posts: 4,407	Re: 64 Project in the desert welcome brother desert rat.... im at 60 & ironwood.. __________________ 1971 K5 CST Blazer 1965 Chevelle Malibu 283 (sadly sold) 1968 Camaro 327 1968 Honda mini-trail z50a #377 1966 uh 1-D Huey

07-25-2007, 11:28 AM	#12
Sam_in_AZ Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Gold Canyon, Arizona Posts: 35	Re: 64 Project in the desert Hey Yote - we're nayba's!! I'm just 5 minutes down the 60 at kings Ranch Road!

07-25-2007, 12:10 PM	#13
yote1234 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Gold Canyon Arizona Posts: 4,407	Re: 64 Project in the desert if you go north on kings ranch rd to baseline and make a bunch of lefts and rights you will be on cloudview dr. i bought 3 acres there...next to golf course... __________________ 1971 K5 CST Blazer 1965 Chevelle Malibu 283 (sadly sold) 1968 Camaro 327 1968 Honda mini-trail z50a #377 1966 uh 1-D Huey

07-25-2007, 04:54 PM	#14
L0WRIDE Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: AUCKLAND, NEW ZEALAND Posts: 2,166	Re: 64 Project in the desert Welcome from New Zealand __________________ 49 CHEVROLET 1/2 TON, 52 CHEVROLET SEDAN 62 HARDTOP NOVA 65 CHEVROLET BB LWB FLEETSIDE 90 CHEVROLET EXTRA CAB CHEVY ONLY - NZ Chapter http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=137984

07-29-2007, 01:20 AM	#15
Captainfab 60-66 Nut Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Coeur d'Alene, Idaho Posts: 23,252	Re: 64 Project in the desert Welcome from Idaho! Regarding question #1....I had that problem before and I just made a bracket out of 1/4" x 1" flat bar that attached to the forward ball stud boss, went towards the rear with a hole for the new location for the ball stud and wraped around to one of the bellhousing bolts. I hope that helps __________________ Power Steering Box Adapter Plates For Sale HERE Power Brake Booster Adapter Brackets For Sale '63-'66 HERE and '67-'72 HERE and '60-'62 HERE and "60-'62 with clutch HERE Rear Disc Brake Brackets For Sale. Impala SS calipers HERE Camaro Calipers HERE D52 Calipers HERE 6 Lug HERE Hydroboost Mounting Plates HERE



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08-07-2007, 04:02 PM	#16
Sam_in_AZ Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Gold Canyon, Arizona Posts: 35	Re: 64 Project in the desert A bit of progress... Finally got the new clutch linkage figured out, fabbed & installed. It's not the prettiest welding job, but I think it'll hold up under the pressure. also got the engine bay cleaned up and was ready to install the temp 267 this last weekend but after 'slightly' raising the tranny for a better angle to put it together - realized the PO never had the tail of the tranny bolted down - cuz he doesn't have the correct cross member! drat! so now i need to locate the proper X-member... no yard within a reasonable distance has one... they just say the usual - "come on out & take a look...." Anyone know of any aftermarket mfgs that carry manual tranny X-members? Attached Images __________________ 64 Short Step 327 3spd

08-07-2007, 04:14 PM	#17
slepysal Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: San Jose NOR*CAL Posts: 3,080	Re: 64 Project in the desert Nice work!! and Welcome from San Jose Ca. __________________ 1960 Apache long bed fleet L6 250 Clifford intake 2 bbl carb. Langdon cast headers with dual exhaust and bellflower tips. T-5 5 speed, power steering and power disc brakes. "Over, Around or through it... "

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