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Location: Idaho
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Re: I6 or 350?
292s get terrible mileage.
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Re: I6 or 350?
When I first bought my 71 with a 250 in 1996, among the other small problems the truck had was that it was burning alot of oil (2 quarts during a 250 mile trip from Washington,DC to Topsail Isliand, NC. Another 2 quarts along the way back).
Upon returning home, I asked the guy I bought all my auto parts at the time what should I do. He is the one that suggested that I try using rubber umbrella style valve seals for a f*rd 289/302. Plain rubber umbrella seals do not need machining like teflon valve seals. The valve stem is the same size as the chevy six. The 250 and 292 use the same basic head design. The 292 may have a bigger combustion chamber size, but I'm not sure. The valves are the same. Chevy engines of that era used o-ring seals located near the valve spring keepers. Over time, the rubber deterioates, alowing oil to escape into the combustion chamber and the exhaust. The valve guides wear too, but the rubber seal is what keeps the oil losses low. You do not have to remove the cylinder head to swap out the valve seals. Tools that you do need to do the job are: A valve spring compressor to get to the valve guide seals. I used a K-D model 2078 Universal Overhead Valve Spring Compressor. It is small enough to fit over the valves without getting in the way. If you have access to compressed air, you can use a fitting that screws into the spark plug hole to inject compressed air into the combustion chamber to keep the valves from falling down into the combustion chamber preventing you from putting the valve spring and valve retainer back together after replacing the valve seal. Don't have compressed air? No problem. You just need some old clothesline. Just feed the clothesline into the spark plug hole until you can't anymore. That will be enough to keep the valves from falling into the combustion chamber. That is what I used. How to do the swap: rotate engine to TDC for cylinder #1. Either feed clothesline or install air feed to spark plug hole. Compress valve spring. Remove valve keeper. Remove valve spring. Remove traces of old valve seal. Place umbrella seal cylinder over valve. replace valve spring. replace valve keeper. repeat for other valve for that cylinder. After #1 cylinder is finished, rotate crank to next cylinder in firing order until finished. This cheapo repair has lasted 11 years and 70,000 miles later. I can't complain. Today the engine uses ~ 1 quart per 1200 miles. The cylinder head could use a valve job someday, but that day isn't today. update: I don't remember what year(s) 289/302seals. This was done 11 years ago. I don't have the reciepts from the parts store. I just remember that the cost for enough seals to do the 6 cost less than 10 bucks in 1996. Last edited by Willy Prost; 08-15-2007 at 01:44 PM. Reason: extra info |
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Location: Centrally located between Houston, Austin and Waco. BCS area.
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Re: I6 or 350?
willy, good write up on how to do it... may buy drivethechevy some time to fix his 350 if his oil burning is due to worn valve guides.
I'll stop by my local napa and ask about those seals. |
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I have a radical idea!
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Sweet Home Alabama!
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Re: I6 or 350?
![]() The 350 will get MUCH better mileage
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'67 C-30 Dually Pickup 6.2 Turbo Diesel, NP435 ‘72 C-10 SWB , 350 4bbl, TH350 '69 C-10 SWB , 250 L6, 3 OTT '69 GMC C3500, dump truck, 351 V6, NP435 '84 M1009 CUCV Military Blazer 67 C-30 Turbodiesel build thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=254096 My trucks http://s226.photobucket.com/albums/d...ediafilter=all Member of the 1-Ton Club! Last edited by 67_C-30; 08-15-2007 at 06:41 PM. |
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