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prg machine · 09-20-2007, 08:46 AM

I have an engine soon to instal in a K truck, front clip, fenders off. The headers are the long tube Hedman. Without the starter on and the spark plugs out, can the headers drop in from the top. ??? Any other methods?

lost wages · 09-20-2007, 09:37 AM

some headers can be installed from the top some cant, if your pulling the engine to drop in a new one, lay the headers in the engine compartment and tie them up off to the sides out of the way, then drop the new engine in.

Longhorn Man · 09-20-2007, 05:25 PM

You'll want that starter to be installed BEFORE you put in the headers.

prg machine · 09-20-2007, 05:34 PM

Got it. Maybe instal the starter on the floor and then tie off headers and instal engine. I wonder how this will work with SM465 and 205 transfer goin in also????

Long Roof · 09-20-2007, 08:07 PM

Starters a pain no matter which way you go. I installed the engine with the headers and starter mounted and it was a real PITA to get the starter wires on. When I pulled the engine I took the headers out from the top but I had to drop the starter and the oil filter to do it.

WinDancer · 09-21-2007, 01:29 AM

My full tubes in a 69 GMC 1/2 ton required the engine almost down on the motor mounts with a jack under the motor to squeeze it up a little then down a little. Then one side, then the other. These are made for our trucks but the sure don't act like it on install..........

EAST SIDE LOW LIFE · 09-21-2007, 02:19 AM

Thats a Headman Long Tube on the shop floor that I removed today. I removed it from the bottom starter side and only had to remove the plugs. It's a real bear to get out and the starter is a real drag to install with headers in cause the wires are next to impossible to connect. In your situation I think I would try to work with installing the starter first then the header from the top.

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72armyswbtruck · 09-21-2007, 06:09 AM

Yup, I just removed my headers and went with stock ramhorns. Easier on the plugs and all around easier to work with for the minimal power gain.

prg machine · 09-22-2007, 08:19 AM

What I will try is headers tied to side. Engine and tranny transfer goes in. Then starter. wire starter then bolt up headers.
Maybe????

09-20-2007, 08:46 AM	#1
prg machine Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: oregon Posts: 1,069	Instal headers from above??? I have an engine soon to instal in a K truck, front clip, fenders off. The headers are the long tube Hedman. Without the starter on and the spark plugs out, can the headers drop in from the top. ??? Any other methods?

09-20-2007, 09:37 AM	#2
lost wages Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: jefferson city, mo Posts: 1,364	Re: Instal headers from above??? some headers can be installed from the top some cant, if your pulling the engine to drop in a new one, lay the headers in the engine compartment and tie them up off to the sides out of the way, then drop the new engine in.

09-20-2007, 05:25 PM	#3
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	Re: Instal headers from above??? You'll want that starter to be installed BEFORE you put in the headers.

09-20-2007, 05:34 PM	#4
prg machine Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: oregon Posts: 1,069	Re: Instal headers from above??? Got it. Maybe instal the starter on the floor and then tie off headers and instal engine. I wonder how this will work with SM465 and 205 transfer goin in also????

09-20-2007, 08:07 PM	#5
Long Roof Old School, New Style Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Monroeville, Ohio Posts: 790	Re: Instal headers from above??? Starters a pain no matter which way you go. I installed the engine with the headers and starter mounted and it was a real PITA to get the starter wires on. When I pulled the engine I took the headers out from the top but I had to drop the starter and the oil filter to do it. __________________ The Good: - 72 GMC Jimmy 4x4 - 307 cid / 350 th - 70 Chevy Suburban 1/2T 2wd - 454 cid /400 th - 96 Chevy Impala SS - mainly stock - 98 Chevy Tahoe LT 4x4 - all stock The Bad: - 86 Chevy Suburban 1/2T 4x4 - winter beater The Ugly: - 72 Chevy Suburban 1/2T 2wd - parts truck

09-21-2007, 01:29 AM	#6
WinDancer The Original HotRod KnifeMaker Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Tenino, Washington Posts: 811	Re: Instal headers from above??? My full tubes in a 69 GMC 1/2 ton required the engine almost down on the motor mounts with a jack under the motor to squeeze it up a little then down a little. Then one side, then the other. These are made for our trucks but the sure don't act like it on install.......... __________________ Dave 69 GMC SWB 2WD 454 Turbo 400

09-21-2007, 02:19 AM	#7
EAST SIDE LOW LIFE Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: VANCOUVER ISLAND, B.C., Canada Posts: 1,602	Re: Instal headers from above??? Thats a Headman Long Tube on the shop floor that I removed today. I removed it from the bottom starter side and only had to remove the plugs. It's a real bear to get out and the starter is a real drag to install with headers in cause the wires are next to impossible to connect. In your situation I think I would try to work with installing the starter first then the header from the top. esll. Attached Images __________________ Tomorrow is for doing today's stuff. ************************************* This truck has just the right amount of energy for me! Author: Warren Lake .... (member)

09-21-2007, 06:09 AM	#8
72armyswbtruck Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Idaho Posts: 4,034	Re: Instal headers from above??? Yup, I just removed my headers and went with stock ramhorns. Easier on the plugs and all around easier to work with for the minimal power gain. __________________ "Remember, They can Kill You, but they can't eat You, That's against the law!!!!!!!!!"

09-22-2007, 08:19 AM	#9
prg machine Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: oregon Posts: 1,069	Re: Instal headers from above??? What I will try is headers tied to side. Engine and tranny transfer goes in. Then starter. wire starter then bolt up headers. Maybe????



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