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smsag04 · 10-16-2007, 12:15 PM

I'll try to make a long story short. I bought a '72 K10 SWB off of eBay a few months ago. Once I got it home I found that the title didn't match the numbers on the truck. After going back and forth with the seller, they couldn't afford to buy the truck back, so eBay's auction insurance is paying me back for the truck. Normally, they said, they would take posession of the truck and resell it. In this case, since we haven't found a way to get a good title for the truck, they can't sell it, so I get my money back and get to keep the titleless truck.

I don't have a use for an off-road only truck, so I'd like to sell it. Any ideas on what it's worth as an off-road only or parts truck?

Stats:
'72 K10 SWB - 3/4 ton cab
350 with Edelbrock intake manifold and Quadrajet carb
3.73 gears
15x10 wheels with 33" tires
Power steering and brakes
I've inspected the differentials, both are clean with no gear wear.
Doesn't burn oil, I haven't checked the compression yet, but can if anyone is interested.
The speedometer and lights work.

*72lb4x4* · 10-16-2007, 12:45 PM

I think that its likely that you can get a title (with a bit of work) from your state, or the state where it came from by digging throught the DMV web sites, finding forms, info etc. Also, there are title service companies that can get you a title for a fee.

It seems that a lot of people (at least in my area) think that if a title is lost (not the case here), or gone for whatever reason, a new title can't be obtained. As long as the vehicle is not stolen, and nothing illegal is being attempted, its not that tough to get a title.

OLDIRON69 · 10-16-2007, 12:49 PM

Ditto on the title. Do a web search, there are companies for a couple hundred you can get a title.

BB72CHEVKT · 10-16-2007, 12:55 PM

^ x3

bobthecop · 10-16-2007, 01:01 PM

Here in Oklahoma you can get a "Title 42" which is a clear title on a vehicle that you have a lien on, you have to fill out an affidavit, showing the amount of the lien. You can claim work and parts you have in the vehicle and storage fees of $8.00-$15.00 per day. The notice gets published in the news paper and if no one claims the the vehicle and pays you for the lien, you get a clear title. You will of course have to have the vin run for stolen. There are folks here who charge about $50.00-$60.00 to do all this for you. I would check with the local tag office, or DMV and see what you need to do in your area. AS long as it is not stolen, there should be no problem, if it is stolen, you haven't lost anything and the cops will have a good lead on the thief. It will be worth alot more with a clear title than what it will cost you to get one.

smsag04 · 10-16-2007, 01:22 PM

Thanks for the advice. I have spent lots to time with both the Texas DMV (where the truck came from) and the Louisiana DMV (where I live). In Texas, it's possible to get a bonded title, but since Louisiana does not honor bonded titles, I couldn't transfer it here.

I've had some people suggest getting a salvage title. From what I've found, that required having a statement of loss from the insurance company and the original title to the truck. I have neither.

I've got a friend here that may be interested in it for a parts truck, or I may just put it back on eBay.

As a side note, I've also got a '65 Mustang project I'm working on. I have yet to find a forum for Mustangs that is as informative and helpful as this one is for these trucks.

custom72c20 · 10-16-2007, 01:22 PM

see if you can find some vins in local junkyards and check to see if they are clean and then transfer it to your truck. some one told me they did that before. not exactly sure though. just my 2 pennies

smsag04 · 10-16-2007, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by custom72c20

see if you can find some vins in local junkyards and check to see if they are clean and then transfer it to your truck. some one told me they did that before. not exactly sure though. just my 2 pennies

I know somebody that got 3 years in prison for doing that. I wouldn't suggest it

toomanytoyz · 10-16-2007, 01:25 PM

smsag04 · 10-16-2007, 01:28 PM

67_C-30 · 10-16-2007, 02:03 PM

As long as its not a stolen truck, which I'm sure by now you'd know if it was, you could sell it a state like here in Alabama or Georgia that doesn't require titles on vehicles older than 1975. How much are you asking for it?

*72lb4x4* · 10-16-2007, 02:14 PM

I just Googled the following and got quite a number of hits for title services...

title service vehicle

Since the DMV technique doesn't appear to be working you might try a service.

Thealien · 10-16-2007, 03:30 PM

How long did it take to get ebay to help/pay?

I would not offer it back on ebay after getting paid for it.

I don't know what you paid but I bet you would do well parting things out, good luck.

magsnubby · 10-16-2007, 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 72lb4x4

I just Googled the following and got quite a number of hits for title services...

title service vehicle

Since the DMV technique doesn't appear to be working you might try a service.

That's what i'm thinking. It would really be a shame to have to junk it out. Really don't see very many '67 through '72 Chevy 4x4's around any more. Man i wish i lived closer to you. I'ld grab that thing in a heart beat.

1969k10stepside · 10-16-2007, 07:37 PM

I'll give you $1 for it

Seriously though,pay for a member ship here ($25) and list it in the classifieds and it should sell quick.

drman929 · 10-16-2007, 09:06 PM

In AR, the process is very easy. I just brought my VIN to the DMV and they mailed me a new one 2 weeks later.

wibilly · 10-16-2007, 09:13 PM

dose your titel not match the cab or the frame? does it match at least one i would say if it matches the frame your good to go, in many states cabs are concidered replacable body parts. in others vin on cab must match title. i would think the worst you would have to do is swap cabs for one with a title . i would not be affraid of it at all if the title matched my frame

ChevLoRay · 10-16-2007, 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drman929

In AR, the process is very easy. I just brought my VIN to the DMV and they mailed me a new one 2 weeks later.

Another option is to get a "Bonded Title". This is also something done through your DMV. They should have a department that deals with this stuff and they will tell you what you need to do to make it happen.

My younger brother just bought a '72 Chevy, from a guy here in central Arkansas, and it doesn't have a title. Guy he bought it from said it came from Georgia or Alabama and that because of its' age, it doesn't HAVE to have a title. Excuse me, but that is exactly the wrong thing to tell me if you want ME to buy it. Seems to me that there was a post on here several months ago in which someone had bought a truck that came from Alabama and tried to license it in Oklahoma with the title that came with the truck, only to find that the VIN had already been used in Tennessee....or something to that effect.

In my brother's case, the vehicle came with a letter from a lawyer that allowed this truck to be registered and licensed in Arkansas. I would not have bought it, but that's just me.

teeitup · 10-16-2007, 11:22 PM

I had that problem in Kansas a couple years ago, I bought a SWB 4x4, got it home and realized it had a 2wd vin and title. I had to get a lawyer to file it with the courts, cost me $250. Made sure it wasn't stolen. They did all the paper work with courts, then I had to go to the Ks Highway patrol and they took off the old 2wd vin plate placed a New vin plate on the truck. Cost $10 to have them do that. So I had $260 in my truck and it wa all legal.

mvfd70 · 10-16-2007, 11:34 PM

I agree with everyone else. Talk to the people DMV. Especially if eBay has reimbursed you. Right now you pretty much have a FREE truck. Spending a couple hundred or so getting a proper title won't be bad at all. Having a running and driving 72 4x4 and only being out a couple bills for it....I'd do that in an instant

lofly'a · 10-16-2007, 11:56 PM

i've been down that road you're on before, and you'll get no satisfaction from the louisiana DMV. in my case the previous owner died and never got the title in his name and the previous owner died before him, hence i became the third owner without a title and no help from DMV so............... i bought a body with a title (plentiful and cheap here - LWBs only) and told the DMV that the frame was bent and that i have another one. i took the new frame to the state police local office to get a new vin stamped on the frame to match the cab. hope you get some satisfaction somehow, heck i know guys that have driven their trucks for years with mismatched numbers as a result of building trucks from numerous parts, and never gave it a second thought, and neither has the DMV.

oh yeah, i did have a notarized bill of sale.

JHART · 10-17-2007, 12:13 AM

I would just file the abandon vehicle paper work and get a salvage title and call it a day. Ar least that way you get it legal.

azngosh8r · 10-17-2007, 12:14 AM

how much are you asking for the truck? I will buy it for parts if you want to sell....

72armyswbtruck · 10-17-2007, 04:39 AM

Good luck on your qwest.

bad6772 · 10-17-2007, 10:12 PM

id keep it ....and file for a lost title.......easy thing to do here in Indiana......

10-16-2007, 12:15 PM	#1
smsag04 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Lake Charles, LA Posts: 15	What's it worth? - no title I'll try to make a long story short. I bought a '72 K10 SWB off of eBay a few months ago. Once I got it home I found that the title didn't match the numbers on the truck. After going back and forth with the seller, they couldn't afford to buy the truck back, so eBay's auction insurance is paying me back for the truck. Normally, they said, they would take posession of the truck and resell it. In this case, since we haven't found a way to get a good title for the truck, they can't sell it, so I get my money back and get to keep the titleless truck. I don't have a use for an off-road only truck, so I'd like to sell it. Any ideas on what it's worth as an off-road only or parts truck? Stats: '72 K10 SWB - 3/4 ton cab 350 with Edelbrock intake manifold and Quadrajet carb 3.73 gears 15x10 wheels with 33" tires Power steering and brakes I've inspected the differentials, both are clean with no gear wear. Doesn't burn oil, I haven't checked the compression yet, but can if anyone is interested. The speedometer and lights work. __________________ '72 K10 SWB - First project truck Last edited by N2TRUX; 10-16-2007 at 11:39 PM.

10-16-2007, 12:45 PM	#2
72lb4x4 Account Suspended Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: DFW Posts: 1,427	Re: What's it worth? - no title I think that its likely that you can get a title (with a bit of work) from your state, or the state where it came from by digging throught the DMV web sites, finding forms, info etc. Also, there are title service companies that can get you a title for a fee. It seems that a lot of people (at least in my area) think that if a title is lost (not the case here), or gone for whatever reason, a new title can't be obtained. As long as the vehicle is not stolen, and nothing illegal is being attempted, its not that tough to get a title.

10-16-2007, 12:49 PM	#3
OLDIRON69 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Ben Wheeler,Texas Posts: 992	Re: What's it worth? - no title Ditto on the title. Do a web search, there are companies for a couple hundred you can get a title. __________________ 05 2500HD 6.0 excab 69 LWB-Gone but not forgotten! 68 Dodge Charger 383/727 69 Dodge Charger-440/4spd

10-16-2007, 12:55 PM	#4
BB72CHEVKT Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Hideaway, TX Posts: 4,950	Re: What's it worth? - no title ^ x3 __________________ 71 Suburban 350/700R4 Project Trixie 72 CHEVY,Highlander,SWB,396,T400

10-16-2007, 01:01 PM	#5
bobthecop Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Yukon Oklahoma Posts: 2,647	Re: What's it worth? - no title Here in Oklahoma you can get a "Title 42" which is a clear title on a vehicle that you have a lien on, you have to fill out an affidavit, showing the amount of the lien. You can claim work and parts you have in the vehicle and storage fees of $8.00-$15.00 per day. The notice gets published in the news paper and if no one claims the the vehicle and pays you for the lien, you get a clear title. You will of course have to have the vin run for stolen. There are folks here who charge about $50.00-$60.00 to do all this for you. I would check with the local tag office, or DMV and see what you need to do in your area. AS long as it is not stolen, there should be no problem, if it is stolen, you haven't lost anything and the cops will have a good lead on the thief. It will be worth alot more with a clear title than what it will cost you to get one. __________________ Happiness is towing your "new" truck home. 1972 C-10 1982 GMC (parts truck??) 1969 c10 parts truck 1969 C-10 ( my sons) 1992 Silverado 4X4 (now the boys truck)(now mine again) 2002 Tarus (my wife loves that car) Last edited by bobthecop; 10-16-2007 at 01:05 PM.

10-16-2007, 01:22 PM	#6
smsag04 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Lake Charles, LA Posts: 15	Re: What's it worth? - no title Thanks for the advice. I have spent lots to time with both the Texas DMV (where the truck came from) and the Louisiana DMV (where I live). In Texas, it's possible to get a bonded title, but since Louisiana does not honor bonded titles, I couldn't transfer it here. I've had some people suggest getting a salvage title. From what I've found, that required having a statement of loss from the insurance company and the original title to the truck. I have neither. I've got a friend here that may be interested in it for a parts truck, or I may just put it back on eBay. As a side note, I've also got a '65 Mustang project I'm working on. I have yet to find a forum for Mustangs that is as informative and helpful as this one is for these trucks. __________________ '72 K10 SWB - First project truck

10-16-2007, 01:22 PM	#7
custom72c20 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Temecula,CA Posts: 309	Re: What's it worth? - no title see if you can find some vins in local junkyards and check to see if they are clean and then transfer it to your truck. some one told me they did that before. not exactly sure though. just my 2 pennies

10-16-2007, 01:25 PM	#9
toomanytoyz Luv the Crewcabs Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Andrews, In. 46702 Posts: 4,097	Re: What's it worth? - no title Last edited by N2TRUX; 10-16-2007 at 11:42 PM.

10-16-2007, 01:28 PM	#10
smsag04 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Lake Charles, LA Posts: 15	Re: What's it worth? - no title __________________ '72 K10 SWB - First project truck Last edited by N2TRUX; 10-16-2007 at 11:42 PM.

10-16-2007, 02:03 PM	#11
67_C-30 I have a radical idea! Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Sweet Home Alabama! Posts: 6,513	Re: What's it worth? - no title As long as its not a stolen truck, which I'm sure by now you'd know if it was, you could sell it a state like here in Alabama or Georgia that doesn't require titles on vehicles older than 1975. How much are you asking for it? __________________ '67 C-30 Dually Pickup 6.2 Turbo Diesel, NP435 ‘72 C-10 SWB , 350 4bbl, TH350 '69 C-10 SWB , 250 L6, 3 OTT '69 GMC C3500, dump truck, 351 V6, NP435 '84 M1009 CUCV Military Blazer 67 C-30 Turbodiesel build thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=254096 My trucks http://s226.photobucket.com/albums/d...ediafilter=all Member of the 1-Ton Club! Last edited by 67_C-30; 10-16-2007 at 02:03 PM.

10-16-2007, 02:14 PM	#12
72lb4x4 Account Suspended Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: DFW Posts: 1,427	Re: What's it worth? - no title I just Googled the following and got quite a number of hits for title services... title service vehicle Since the DMV technique doesn't appear to be working you might try a service.

10-16-2007, 03:30 PM	#13
Thealien Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Pine Ridge Florida Posts: 4,123	Re: What's it worth? - no title How long did it take to get ebay to help/pay? I would not offer it back on ebay after getting paid for it. I don't know what you paid but I bet you would do well parting things out, good luck.

10-16-2007, 07:37 PM	#15
1969k10stepside Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: USA Posts: 21,020	Re: What's it worth? - no title I'll give you $1 for it Seriously though,pay for a member ship here ($25) and list it in the classifieds and it should sell quick. Last edited by 1969k10stepside; 10-16-2007 at 07:42 PM.

10-16-2007, 09:06 PM	#16
drman929 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Arkansas Posts: 232	Re: What's it worth? - no title In AR, the process is very easy. I just brought my VIN to the DMV and they mailed me a new one 2 weeks later.

10-16-2007, 09:13 PM	#17
wibilly Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: northwestern wi Posts: 2,111	Re: What's it worth? - no title dose your titel not match the cab or the frame? does it match at least one i would say if it matches the frame your good to go, in many states cabs are concidered replacable body parts. in others vin on cab must match title. i would think the worst you would have to do is swap cabs for one with a title . i would not be affraid of it at all if the title matched my frame __________________ common sense isn't so common anymore



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10-16-2007, 11:22 PM	#19
teeitup Just like to part out trucks!! Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Meriden, Ks-North of Topeka 10 miles Posts: 27,396	Re: What's it worth? - no title I had that problem in Kansas a couple years ago, I bought a SWB 4x4, got it home and realized it had a 2wd vin and title. I had to get a lawyer to file it with the courts, cost me $250. Made sure it wasn't stolen. They did all the paper work with courts, then I had to go to the Ks Highway patrol and they took off the old 2wd vin plate placed a New vin plate on the truck. Cost $10 to have them do that. So I had $260 in my truck and it wa all legal. __________________ 67 Chev swb stepside 4x4 283 4 speed SOLD 72 blazer 4x4 4 speed Cheyenne 72 GMC swb 4x4 fleet 4 speed, original paint 1958 Cameo (one of 1405 built, it was my dads) 2020 chevy Apex 4x4 crew cab 1969 Z28 with the 302 1980 chevy swb 4x4 1964 chevell Malibu SS 1976 K20, sold new originally out of my dads chevy dealership Members that I've met, over 200 probably closer to 300 in the 12 years I've been on this site, everyone I met "It was a pleasure"

10-16-2007, 11:34 PM	#20
mvfd70 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Opdyke, IL Posts: 775	Re: What's it worth? - no title I agree with everyone else. Talk to the people DMV. Especially if eBay has reimbursed you. Right now you pretty much have a FREE truck. Spending a couple hundred or so getting a proper title won't be bad at all. Having a running and driving 72 4x4 and only being out a couple bills for it....I'd do that in an instant __________________ 1978 Chevrolet Silverado 3/4 ton 400 small block. 2000 F-250 Powerstroke 2002 GMC Yukon Denali XL

10-16-2007, 11:56 PM	#21
lofly'a Registered User Join Date: May 2000 Location: Alexandria, LA 71301 Posts: 1,451	Re: What's it worth? - no title i've been down that road you're on before, and you'll get no satisfaction from the louisiana DMV. in my case the previous owner died and never got the title in his name and the previous owner died before him, hence i became the third owner without a title and no help from DMV so............... i bought a body with a title (plentiful and cheap here - LWBs only) and told the DMV that the frame was bent and that i have another one. i took the new frame to the state police local office to get a new vin stamped on the frame to match the cab. hope you get some satisfaction somehow, heck i know guys that have driven their trucks for years with mismatched numbers as a result of building trucks from numerous parts, and never gave it a second thought, and neither has the DMV. oh yeah, i did have a notarized bill of sale. __________________ -02 avalanche (daily driver) -66 gto ragtop 389/400 (garage queen, hand-me-down from dad) -72 Tribute Trans Am (6.0LS/T56 6-speed) in progress -2003 YUKON (Wife's) -71 gmc swb fleet (current project, gonna shave everything, bags, stuff w/ 20's, gen III powertrain) -48 3100 SWB - 12/31/23 LONG TERM Project Last edited by lofly'a; 10-16-2007 at 11:57 PM.

10-17-2007, 12:13 AM	#22
JHART 1972 Shorty Owner Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Stationed in Cali , born and raised in PHX Arizona. Posts: 796	Re: What's it worth? - no title I would just file the abandon vehicle paper work and get a salvage title and call it a day. Ar least that way you get it legal. __________________ 1972 Chevy Shorty C-10- Project In Work http://67-72chevytrucks.com/gallery/...ATT1721941.jpg- New Project

10-17-2007, 12:14 AM	#23
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10-17-2007, 04:39 AM	#24
72armyswbtruck Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Idaho Posts: 4,034	Re: What's it worth? - no title Good luck on your qwest. __________________ "Remember, They can Kill You, but they can't eat You, That's against the law!!!!!!!!!"

10-17-2007, 10:12 PM	#25
bad6772 Official Site Guitar Shredder Join Date: May 2006 Location: Oz Posts: 3,955	Re: What's it worth? - no title id keep it ....and file for a lost title.......easy thing to do here in Indiana......

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