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72ChevyCheyenne · 01-01-2003, 11:14 PM

I had some time to get the braided hoses on today.

GMC JUNKIE TOO · 01-01-2003, 11:56 PM

Are those the hoses designed for power steering, youre dealing with alot of pressure there. Lookin real good

72ChevyCheyenne · 01-01-2003, 11:57 PM

Yes, they come in a kit from Zoops.

GMC JUNKIE TOO · 01-02-2003, 01:17 AM

Cool, im going to use earls braided hose and fitings when I put on my power steering.

Crank · 01-02-2003, 01:23 AM

Looking good. Does Zoops have a website? What is that catch can for? Radiator? Oil? ???
Brandon

RON WOODGEARD · 01-02-2003, 02:01 AM

That is looking very "Sano".

Where did you get the chromed upper radiator hold downs??

RON

70c10 · 01-02-2003, 08:54 AM

Sweet, Man!

72ChevyCheyenne · 01-02-2003, 10:15 AM

BraBra - Zoops website is www.zoops.com. They don't list the hose kit on their site but they do have the pump and the remote resevoir (catch can).

Ron - The radiator hold downs aren't chrome. They are silver. The pic makes them look shiney.

**Yukon Jack** · 01-02-2003, 10:29 AM

That engine sure looks sweet. What is your radiator fan setup?

jhow66 · 01-02-2003, 11:58 AM

One ?. Have you heard it run yet?!!!!!!!

68racer · 01-02-2003, 02:07 PM

I don't want to be a pessimist but please check the pressure rating of the hoses and fittings for the power steering. Normally externally braided hose and screw on fittings are maxed at 1500psi. Power steering often operates at 2000psi, that is why stock hoses are swaged on at the ends. The return side will not be a problem. Very nice set-up though, I like the remote reservoir. I am saving for a 502 and am very jealous. Where did you get the headers?

72ChevyCheyenne · 01-02-2003, 10:02 PM

Yukon - I put 2 electric fans with a thermostatic control in the head set at 185 degrees.

Jhow66 - Unfortunately I haven't heard it run yet. I am waiting on my paint and body man to finish so I put it back together and fire it up.

68racer - The hoses are Aeroquip and are rated for power sterring. Once I put the fittings on I took them to MoonRiver Hot Rods and had them pressure tested.

Sammy · 01-03-2003, 12:22 AM

Aeroquip is a reputable hose manufacture that specializes in aircraft hoses for specfic applications used alot in military aircraft applications. Very expensive & reliable company. Wouldn't be afraid if they rated them at 2,000 psi. Most likely those hoses are rated at 3,800 psi.

72ChevyCheyenne · 01-03-2003, 09:15 AM

68racer - I got the headers through AutoZone. They don't stock them but they can have them in a couple of days. They are Dynomax and you have to grind the flanges in order for them to fit because the head bolts are taller than previous 502 heads.

*Shane* · 01-03-2003, 11:18 AM

Most pressurized fittings and hoses use a 3 to 1 safety factor rating (some are even 4 to 1). In other words, if it is rated at 1,500 psi ... then they usually will not fail until 4,500 psi.

NOTICE: I said usually ... that means under Normal Operating Conditions.

68racer · 01-03-2003, 02:22 PM

To clarify,

Aeroquip Racing Hose (FC333) has a working pressure of 1000psi and a burst pressure of 6000psi in dash 6 size. They do not list this product as suitable for power steering. This is the product normally used for fuel systems on racing cars. This has the red and blue fittings.

Aeroquip TFE racing hose (2807) has a teflon construction and has a working pressure of 2500psi and a burst pressure of 10000psi in dash 6. It is listed as suitable for power steering. Fittings are normally silver.

Externally both products look the same with a stainless overbraid.

Also suitable for power steering is Aeroquip AQP High Pressure. This looks like a standard power steering hose and uses crimp on fittings.

If FC333 Racing Hose is used on a power steering system it will work but it is operating outside the safety zone.

Damn nice chassis.

01-01-2003, 11:14 PM	#1
72ChevyCheyenne Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Woodstock, GA USA Posts: 300	Braided Hoses I had some time to get the braided hoses on today. Attached Images __________________ Bill Durham http://home.attbi.com/~bulldurham 72 Cheyenne Restoration in progress Currently: frame sand blasted and powdercoated, Inline Tube brake and fuel lines, Blazer tank in rear, Holley Red electronic fuel pump, Eaton posi with 3.42 gears, 2 1/2" drop front spindles, 4" drop rear springs with adjustable panhard bar, KYB shocks, ZZ 502/502 GM Performance crate engine, Zoops brackets and pulleys, Vintage Air, dual electric fans, Ram Air II hood and late model sport side bed.

01-01-2003, 11:57 PM	#3
72ChevyCheyenne Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Woodstock, GA USA Posts: 300	Yes, they come in a kit from Zoops. __________________ Bill Durham http://home.attbi.com/~bulldurham 72 Cheyenne Restoration in progress Currently: frame sand blasted and powdercoated, Inline Tube brake and fuel lines, Blazer tank in rear, Holley Red electronic fuel pump, Eaton posi with 3.42 gears, 2 1/2" drop front spindles, 4" drop rear springs with adjustable panhard bar, KYB shocks, ZZ 502/502 GM Performance crate engine, Zoops brackets and pulleys, Vintage Air, dual electric fans, Ram Air II hood and late model sport side bed.

01-02-2003, 08:54 AM	#7
70c10 67-72 Addict! Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: The TAX State! Posts: 7,857	Sweet, Man! __________________ Jim 1970 C/10 Fleetside w/Ghost Flames Lowered 4.5" front and 4" rear (Raked) 355/350 Turbo w/shift kit 10" Redneck Performance Verter w/2500 stall Hooker Super Comps part#2808-1 Performer RPM Air-Gap 12 Bolt w/3:73 gears- Eaton Posi Comp Cams XE262 with 1.6 Crane Energizers, Road Demon 625 and Brodix IK 180 heads

01-02-2003, 10:15 AM	#8
72ChevyCheyenne Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Woodstock, GA USA Posts: 300	BraBra - Zoops website is www.zoops.com. They don't list the hose kit on their site but they do have the pump and the remote resevoir (catch can). Ron - The radiator hold downs aren't chrome. They are silver. The pic makes them look shiney. __________________ Bill Durham http://home.attbi.com/~bulldurham 72 Cheyenne Restoration in progress Currently: frame sand blasted and powdercoated, Inline Tube brake and fuel lines, Blazer tank in rear, Holley Red electronic fuel pump, Eaton posi with 3.42 gears, 2 1/2" drop front spindles, 4" drop rear springs with adjustable panhard bar, KYB shocks, ZZ 502/502 GM Performance crate engine, Zoops brackets and pulleys, Vintage Air, dual electric fans, Ram Air II hood and late model sport side bed.

01-02-2003, 10:29 AM	#9
Yukon Jack Post Whore Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Rose Hill, KS, USA Posts: 12,683	That engine sure looks sweet. What is your radiator fan setup? __________________ 1970 Blazer with a 400 sbc and 4" lift 1980 Pontiac Trans Am, 455 Oldsmobile 2012 Kawasaki Concours 14

01-01-2003, 11:56 PM	#2
GMC JUNKIE TOO THE QUICKER FIXERUPER Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Ok Posts: 615	Are those the hoses designed for power steering, youre dealing with alot of pressure there. Lookin real good

01-02-2003, 01:17 AM	#4
GMC JUNKIE TOO THE QUICKER FIXERUPER Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Ok Posts: 615	Cool, im going to use earls braided hose and fitings when I put on my power steering.

01-02-2003, 01:23 AM	#5
Crank Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Crittenden, KY Posts: 1,964	Looking good. Does Zoops have a website? What is that catch can for? Radiator? Oil? ??? Brandon

01-02-2003, 02:01 AM	#6
RON WOODGEARD Resident Young Old Dude ! Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Nevada Posts: 1,948	That is looking very "Sano". Where did you get the chromed upper radiator hold downs?? RON

01-02-2003, 11:58 AM	#10
jhow66 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Knoxville Tenn. Posts: 3,058	One ?. Have you heard it run yet?!!!!!!! __________________ 56 Chevy Bel-Air 2dr. HT (purchased new) 71 Chevy Cheyenne SWB PU (502HO) 65 GMC short bed step--work in progress and my gofer

01-02-2003, 02:07 PM	#11
68racer Yeah baby! Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 436	I don't want to be a pessimist but please check the pressure rating of the hoses and fittings for the power steering. Normally externally braided hose and screw on fittings are maxed at 1500psi. Power steering often operates at 2000psi, that is why stock hoses are swaged on at the ends. The return side will not be a problem. Very nice set-up though, I like the remote reservoir. I am saving for a 502 and am very jealous. Where did you get the headers? __________________ 11.37 @116

01-02-2003, 10:02 PM	#12
72ChevyCheyenne Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Woodstock, GA USA Posts: 300	Yukon - I put 2 electric fans with a thermostatic control in the head set at 185 degrees. Jhow66 - Unfortunately I haven't heard it run yet. I am waiting on my paint and body man to finish so I put it back together and fire it up. 68racer - The hoses are Aeroquip and are rated for power sterring. Once I put the fittings on I took them to MoonRiver Hot Rods and had them pressure tested. __________________ Bill Durham http://home.attbi.com/~bulldurham 72 Cheyenne Restoration in progress Currently: frame sand blasted and powdercoated, Inline Tube brake and fuel lines, Blazer tank in rear, Holley Red electronic fuel pump, Eaton posi with 3.42 gears, 2 1/2" drop front spindles, 4" drop rear springs with adjustable panhard bar, KYB shocks, ZZ 502/502 GM Performance crate engine, Zoops brackets and pulleys, Vintage Air, dual electric fans, Ram Air II hood and late model sport side bed.

01-03-2003, 12:22 AM	#13
Sammy Registered User Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Bonne Terre, Mo Posts: 3,005	Aeroquip is a reputable hose manufacture that specializes in aircraft hoses for specfic applications used alot in military aircraft applications. Very expensive & reliable company. Wouldn't be afraid if they rated them at 2,000 psi. Most likely those hoses are rated at 3,800 psi. __________________ '69 Chevy Long Fleet & '71 GMC Short Step & Project "ODD BALL" "You can wash a pig, soak it in most expensive perfume. In the end it is still just a pig." ODD BALL build thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=478629"

01-03-2003, 09:15 AM	#14
72ChevyCheyenne Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Woodstock, GA USA Posts: 300	68racer - I got the headers through AutoZone. They don't stock them but they can have them in a couple of days. They are Dynomax and you have to grind the flanges in order for them to fit because the head bolts are taller than previous 502 heads. __________________ Bill Durham http://home.attbi.com/~bulldurham 72 Cheyenne Restoration in progress Currently: frame sand blasted and powdercoated, Inline Tube brake and fuel lines, Blazer tank in rear, Holley Red electronic fuel pump, Eaton posi with 3.42 gears, 2 1/2" drop front spindles, 4" drop rear springs with adjustable panhard bar, KYB shocks, ZZ 502/502 GM Performance crate engine, Zoops brackets and pulleys, Vintage Air, dual electric fans, Ram Air II hood and late model sport side bed.

01-03-2003, 11:18 AM	#15
Shane Account Suspended Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: over yonder Posts: 14,270	Most pressurized fittings and hoses use a 3 to 1 safety factor rating (some are even 4 to 1). In other words, if it is rated at 1,500 psi ... then they usually will not fail until 4,500 psi. *NOTICE:* I said usually ... that means under Normal Operating Conditions. Last edited by Shane; 01-03-2003 at 02:38 PM.



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01-03-2003, 02:22 PM	#16
68racer Yeah baby! Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 436	To clarify, Aeroquip Racing Hose (FC333) has a working pressure of 1000psi and a burst pressure of 6000psi in dash 6 size. They do not list this product as suitable for power steering. This is the product normally used for fuel systems on racing cars. This has the red and blue fittings. Aeroquip TFE racing hose (2807) has a teflon construction and has a working pressure of 2500psi and a burst pressure of 10000psi in dash 6. It is listed as suitable for power steering. Fittings are normally silver. Externally both products look the same with a stainless overbraid. Also suitable for power steering is Aeroquip AQP High Pressure. This looks like a standard power steering hose and uses crimp on fittings. If FC333 Racing Hose is used on a power steering system it will work but it is operating outside the safety zone. Damn nice chassis. __________________ 11.37 @116

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