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speedypalomino · 11-02-2007, 11:24 PM

ok,, while coming out of the grocery store this evening,, (its amazing the looks you will get buying toilet paper and eggs on halloween,,, even in your 40's!!) there sat my old Blazer, in all its glory of a 4 inch lift and 35's, completely dwarfed by some kids mid 80's blazer with who knows how much lift and 40's.... :O\ .
so..... how much is concidered TOO much??? (am I realy turnin into my father???) :O).....

just a thought.....

Bear

Walts_restoration · 11-02-2007, 11:27 PM

Its only to much when the cops pull you over i say.

Walts_restoration · 11-02-2007, 11:28 PM

As long as you can still park your DD under her, i figure its a good height

1969k10stepside · 11-02-2007, 11:32 PM

A lift is never too much unless the truck (or blazer) is a poser and doesn't need a big lift.

Now,a small lift (6" or so max) doesn't count as that is understandable.(Because the 67-72s just look right with some lift and a little wider and taller of a tire than stock).8" lift or more on a road truck isn't understandable. If you need a 12" lift to clear 54s,and you have the drivetrain to withstand it, and you actually use it for a offroad truck and need that much lift..That's not a case of being too much.Now,if it's got a 10" lift,42s,is running on stock axles,the stock drivetrain,probably even running stock gears,well then that's a case of being too much,In my opinion..

bouncytruck · 11-03-2007, 12:25 AM

If the lift is too tall to be effective or to wheel, it's too much. There are/have been guys on this board with 12" of lift and 44's that wheel them hard.

68K20 x Drill · 11-03-2007, 12:40 AM

If you are completely stuck, and it is still more than 1' from your rocker to the surface of the mud/water, you have too much lift.
If you are not stuck, but the goo is coming in under the door, you may not have enough.

DURRTY · 11-03-2007, 02:38 AM

UMMM if its "too much" your too OLD HAHAHHA come on now 40s 44s 54s look really cool if nothing else and if you want to drop the truck in mud what else would you want?

but if its just big ass tires with 1/2 ton gear thats kinda weak

the kid will learn sooner or later when something breaks or when he has to replace steering components every month.

vtblazer · 11-03-2007, 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by speedypalomino

ok,, while coming out of the grocery store this evening,, (its amazing the looks you will get buying toilet paper and eggs on halloween,,, even in your 40's!!) there sat my old Blazer, in all its glory of a 4 inch lift and 35's, completely dwarfed by some kids mid 80's blazer with who knows how much lift and 40's.... :O\ .
so..... how much is concidered TOO much??? (am I realy turnin into my father???) :O).....

just a thought.....

Bear

It's a belief in 'function' or 'want' IMO.

Poser lift's are whatever they think they want to run huge tires on the pavement but have about zero function in reality.
In most cases these trucks drive/ride like crap as well.

Wheeling lift's offer the option of running taller tires to obtain ground clearance but even there can easily become to high to function safely.

Driver/Weekend warrior lift's fall somewhere in between looks/function.

Even your 4" lift w/35's wouldn't be and effective wheeler but that may not be your focus, so all is well.

Bet it looks sweet though.

speedypalomino · 11-03-2007, 03:40 PM

I will havta check that one out a little closer next time I see it,, it was dark, and I was in a bit of a hurry....
mine on the other hand isn't really set up for "off-road" its more for "around-farm",,, it tows the old manure spreader, hauls the hay wagons, and gets me down to check to see if the river is goin over the bank,, so I guess its a form fits function issue....
of course,, I would much rather see an extremely lifted truck, over one of those little rice burners anyday!!!
"Hey kid,, does your Mom know what ya did to her car!!!" LOL!!!

Bear :O)

bigbadchev72 · 11-03-2007, 11:33 PM

too tall is like too much money

This one is pretty big though, I would think when you need to build a staircase to get in, It is getting close to being too big, This one however is all business

*72lb4x4* · 11-04-2007, 01:16 AM

Love the partially built staircase. It looks serious with the diff...

What's the plan?

LUV2XCLR8 · 11-04-2007, 03:11 AM

Too high = Unstable

(I beleive that's happened already this year)

DURRTY · 11-04-2007, 04:03 AM

Cmon now VT if all you want to do is blast through the local mud holes 35s are good to go, for all out gummy snotty mud or real rock crawling no way.

but don't say that "wouldn't be and effective wheeler"

everything has its place

Jeff

vtblazer · 11-04-2007, 05:34 AM

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Originally Posted by DURRTY

Cmon now VT if all you want to do is blast through the local mud holes 35s are good to go, for all out gummy snotty mud or real rock crawling no way.

but don't say that "wouldn't be and effective wheeler"

Nope, don't agree.
An effective wheeler doesn't fall into the category of "single event" uses.
An effective wheeler needs to be able to meet the demands of the trail,
whether it be mud/rocks/sand or frame twister's. [edit] as the outing offers up.

A 1st gen w/35's and a 4" lift isn't gonna cut it out wheeling around. [edit] on anything above blue trails.

The blazer shown above goes to the other extreme.
It's cool and well built but it won't be an effective wheeler either.

So yeah, I can say "won't be an effective wheeler".

72cheyennesuper20 · 11-05-2007, 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by bigbadchev72

too tall is like too much money

This one is pretty big though, I would think when you need to build a staircase to get in, It is getting close to being too big, This one however is all business

72cheyennesuper20 · 11-05-2007, 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by bigbadchev72

too tall is like too much money

This one is pretty big though, I would think when you need to build a staircase to get in, It is getting close to being too big, This one however is all business

How did they get the top on that blazer?

see ten · 11-05-2007, 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by vtblazer

Nope, don't agree.
An effective wheeler doesn't fall into the category of "single event" uses.
An effective wheeler needs to be able to meet the demands of the trail,
whether it be mud/rocks/sand or frame twister's.

A 1st gen w/35's and a 4" lift isn't gonna cut it out wheeling around.

The blazer shown above goes to the other extreme.
It's cool and well built but it won't be an effective wheeler either.

So yeah, I can say "won't be an effective wheeler" cause it's true.

I have read in more than one 4x4 mag where they have tried to build a "do all" 4x4 or "wheeler" . The dilema is that when you try to build one that does everything (mud, rocks, sand, frame twisters) you are going to have to comprise it's ability to do something else. This is why we see so many guys building purpose built rigs that fit their needs. Let's face it, extreme rockcrawlers aren't good sand buggys. Mud boggers aren't meant for running frame twisters. And none of these purpose built rigs are probably going to be fit to drive from the owners home to and from an event. I think that's why he's happy with his 4" of lift and 35's. It suits his purposes and is enough of a compromise that he can still drive it on the street. Saying an "effective wheeler" should be able to handle any event is like saying an effective racer should be able to run 1/8 mile, 1/4 mile, circle track, road courses, and bonneville. They're all different venues that require compromises that would make it less effective at other events. So.............I guess in the meantime we're going to have to settle for building what's most effective for our personal needs. Now when one of us figures out a way to build a vehicle that does everything effectively (as a purpose built rig would in all different areas) I think the world will beat a path to our door asking us to share our secrets with them!

vtblazer · 11-05-2007, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by see ten

I have read in more than one 4x4 mag where they have tried to build a "do all" 4x4 or "wheeler" . The dilema is that when you try to build one that does everything (mud, rocks, sand, frame twisters) you are going to have to comprise it's ability to do something else. This is why we see so many guys building purpose built rigs that fit their needs. Let's face it, extreme rockcrawlers aren't good sand buggys. Mud boggers aren't meant for running frame twisters. And none of these purpose built rigs are probably going to be fit to drive from the owners home to and from an event. I think that's why he's happy with his 4" of lift and 35's. It suits his purposes and is enough of a compromise that he can still drive it on the street. Saying an "effective wheeler" should be able to handle any event is like saying an effective racer should be able to run 1/8 mile, 1/4 mile, circle track, road courses, and bonneville. They're all different venues that require compromises that would make it less effective at other events. So.............I guess in the meantime we're going to have to settle for building what's most effective for our personal needs. Now when one of us figures out a way to build a vehicle that does everything effectively (as a purpose built rig would in all different areas) I think the world will beat a path to our door asking us to share our secrets with them!

I think I might be being taken a little to seriously here and never said that a 4" lift w/35's couldn't be enjoyed.

However, let's be realistic.
A 4" lift with 35's will rub, will limit progress and will bend or tear sheet metal during easy to moderate wheeling.
That's all that was meant by being effective.

Nothing will do everything "great" and of course the deeper (more dedicated) you get into each area of off-roading, the more specific the machines become.

Then throw in the event called "Ultimate Adventure" and the discussion starts all over.

cstm68 · 11-05-2007, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by 72cheyennesuper20

How did they get the top on that blazer?

looks like the same way they got the body on. with an excavator!!!!

wouldent that be a little top heavy??

72cheyennesuper20 · 11-05-2007, 11:36 AM

[QUOTE=cstm68;2431699]looks like the same way they got the body on. with an excavator!!!!

I didn't notice that in the picture the first time I looked.

bigbadchev72 · 11-05-2007, 03:09 PM

not sure if you have to be a paying member to view, but here is his build thread, pretty interesting stuff, Not sure if im gonna hurt any feelings posting a link to another site, If its a problem please let me know:

http://coloradok5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=206283

Long Roof · 11-05-2007, 04:39 PM

Top heavy? Whats that?

blazerboy72 · 11-07-2007, 05:38 PM

After having 8" with 38's for a few years now, Im going back down to 6" and 35's. Im not going to ever use my blazer offroad ( I have other for that) and it is no fun to drive on the street. When I restore it next (hopefully in the next year or two) it will be lowered down to a safe height to drive on the road.

11-02-2007, 11:24 PM	#1
speedypalomino Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Lynden,Wa Posts: 11	how tall??? ok,, while coming out of the grocery store this evening,, (its amazing the looks you will get buying toilet paper and eggs on halloween,,, even in your 40's!!) there sat my old Blazer, in all its glory of a 4 inch lift and 35's, completely dwarfed by some kids mid 80's blazer with who knows how much lift and 40's.... :O\ . so..... how much is concidered TOO much??? (am I realy turnin into my father???) :O)..... just a thought..... Bear __________________ Bear.

11-02-2007, 11:27 PM	#2
Walts_restoration Real Projects never die Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Lawrence, kansas Posts: 1,508	Re: how tall??? Its only to much when the cops pull you over i say. __________________ Ill put it this way, ive got a few lawn ornaments My name tag says Ryan KansasTwister On other forums

11-02-2007, 11:28 PM	#3
Walts_restoration Real Projects never die Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Lawrence, kansas Posts: 1,508	Re: how tall??? As long as you can still park your DD under her, i figure its a good height __________________ Ill put it this way, ive got a few lawn ornaments My name tag says Ryan KansasTwister On other forums

11-02-2007, 11:32 PM	#4
1969k10stepside Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: USA Posts: 21,019	Re: how tall??? A lift is never too much unless the truck (or blazer) is a poser and doesn't need a big lift. Now,a small lift (6" or so max) doesn't count as that is understandable.(Because the 67-72s just look right with some lift and a little wider and taller of a tire than stock).8" lift or more on a road truck isn't understandable. If you need a 12" lift to clear 54s,and you have the drivetrain to withstand it, and you actually use it for a offroad truck and need that much lift..That's not a case of being too much.Now,if it's got a 10" lift,42s,is running on stock axles,the stock drivetrain,probably even running stock gears,well then that's a case of being too much,In my opinion.. Last edited by 1969k10stepside; 11-02-2007 at 11:35 PM.

11-03-2007, 12:25 AM	#5
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11-03-2007, 02:38 AM	#7
DURRTY USMC Join Date: May 2007 Location: SLc,UT Posts: 300	Re: how tall??? UMMM if its "too much" your too OLD HAHAHHA come on now 40s 44s 54s look really cool if nothing else and if you want to drop the truck in mud what else would you want? but if its just big ass tires with 1/2 ton gear thats kinda weak the kid will learn sooner or later when something breaks or when he has to replace steering components every month. __________________ Semper Fi

11-03-2007, 03:40 PM	#9
speedypalomino Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Lynden,Wa Posts: 11	Re: how tall??? I will havta check that one out a little closer next time I see it,, it was dark, and I was in a bit of a hurry.... mine on the other hand isn't really set up for "off-road" its more for "around-farm",,, it tows the old manure spreader, hauls the hay wagons, and gets me down to check to see if the river is goin over the bank,, so I guess its a form fits function issue.... of course,, I would much rather see an extremely lifted truck, over one of those little rice burners anyday!!! "Hey kid,, does your Mom know what ya did to her car!!!" LOL!!! Bear :O) __________________ Bear.

11-03-2007, 11:33 PM	#10
bigbadchev72 People know me Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Hermiston, oregon Posts: 840	Re: how tall??? too tall is like too much money This one is pretty big though, I would think when you need to build a staircase to get in, It is getting close to being too big, This one however is all business Attached Images __________________ 1972 k/5 blazer CST 4X4 Crate 350, th350/205, dana44with trac-loc/14 bolt with detroit locker, 4 wheel discs 4.56s, 8" suspension lift using 73-87springs, 1" zerorate custom front crossmember, HAD CV drivelines and driveshaft e-brake, full cage, PRP seats, Full autometer gauges, 38x14.5x16 Toyo M/Ts, 16x10 Polished aluminum rockcrusher wheels 1967 longbox 4x4, Strong 400/400/208, 44/12bolt 4.10s, 6" lift, 35" Toyo M/Ts on corvette rally wheels

11-04-2007, 01:16 AM	#11
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11-04-2007, 03:11 AM	#12
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11-04-2007, 04:03 AM	#13
DURRTY USMC Join Date: May 2007 Location: SLc,UT Posts: 300	Re: how tall??? Cmon now VT if all you want to do is blast through the local mud holes 35s are good to go, for all out gummy snotty mud or real rock crawling no way. but don't say that "wouldn't be and effective wheeler" everything has its place Jeff __________________ Semper Fi

11-05-2007, 11:36 AM	#20
72cheyennesuper20 Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Location: Portland, OR. Posts: 414	Re: how tall??? [QUOTE=cstm68;2431699]looks like the same way they got the body on. with an excavator!!!! I didn't notice that in the picture the first time I looked.

11-05-2007, 03:09 PM	#21
bigbadchev72 People know me Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Hermiston, oregon Posts: 840	Re: how tall??? not sure if you have to be a paying member to view, but here is his build thread, pretty interesting stuff, Not sure if im gonna hurt any feelings posting a link to another site, If its a problem please let me know: http://coloradok5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=206283 __________________ 1972 k/5 blazer CST 4X4 Crate 350, th350/205, dana44with trac-loc/14 bolt with detroit locker, 4 wheel discs 4.56s, 8" suspension lift using 73-87springs, 1" zerorate custom front crossmember, HAD CV drivelines and driveshaft e-brake, full cage, PRP seats, Full autometer gauges, 38x14.5x16 Toyo M/Ts, 16x10 Polished aluminum rockcrusher wheels 1967 longbox 4x4, Strong 400/400/208, 44/12bolt 4.10s, 6" lift, 35" Toyo M/Ts on corvette rally wheels

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11-07-2007, 05:38 PM	#23
blazerboy72 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Temple, Ga Posts: 854	Re: how tall??? After having 8" with 38's for a few years now, Im going back down to 6" and 35's. Im not going to ever use my blazer offroad ( I have other for that) and it is no fun to drive on the street. When I restore it next (hopefully in the next year or two) it will be lowered down to a safe height to drive on the road.

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