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firstgencamaros · 01-08-2003, 04:58 AM

Hello all,
I need to see how the power steering brackets go on a straight six. I got a bracket set-up from a fellow board member and am having a little trouble seeing how they bolt on. Any help "pics" would be great.
Thanks,
Jason

O'l Buck · 01-08-2003, 05:13 AM

sorry I can't help you out, my boat has a 250 chevy, but no power steering.....dang it

firstgencamaros · 01-09-2003, 10:46 PM

C'mon someone has to have a pic of a truck out there with a straight six with power steering on it....... Help a brother out...lol...

PICKMUP · 01-10-2003, 01:38 AM

Let's see if I have a pic.

PICKMUP · 01-10-2003, 01:44 AM

Again--Any help?

alta-aj · 01-10-2003, 02:45 AM

The reason you may be having problems is that you possibly have the wrong parts. That is that the brackets for a 250 are different than for a 292 because of the bypass hose on the thermostat housing on a 292, and as well, the 292 is a taller engine so the bracketry for the alternator is also different. FYI, 292 brackets are EXTREMELY hard to find altough I do have one set. 250 brackets can be as well but you'll find them from time to time in j.y.

firstgencamaros · 01-10-2003, 03:02 AM

Yes that helps. I have the wrong bracket. If the one in the pic is the right one for a 250. The brackets that bolt to the pump are right just the one that bolts to the motor is different. It wont clear the intake manifold.
Thanks. Have any 250 brackets laying around?
Jason

JJR · 01-10-2003, 08:48 AM

You probably have a set of brackets off a 250 with an integrated head. I have an extra set of brackets but I don't know if I would want to separate just the one bracket. I do have one engine bracket of a 71 C-10. If this picture shows, The bracket on the left is off the 71 C-10. The middle brackets are off a 73 Van and the right brackets are off a 74 Nova. Notice the difference in pulley size on the Nova.

PICKMUP · 01-10-2003, 03:08 PM

Are those crank pulleys at the bottom of the picture? All of the 6cyl PS I have had used a double grooved cast crank balancer that went into the crank...didn't bolt on. Some of the later motors (after 72) used wider spacing between the belt grooves and won't work with our early crank balancers/pulleys. I have used the whole package from a later motor, but you have to get EVERYTHING. Then the timing mark doesn't line up, so you have to remark the later balancer. One of my customers couldn't figure it out, so he drove the PS pump off the WP pulley instead of crank pulley. Worked great! Six cyl PS is a pain, but worth it! I converted my 250 PS to fit the 292 when I changed engines...that was a real exercise in cutting/grinding & welding.

PICKMUP · 01-10-2003, 03:10 PM

Oh, I have a 292 PS sys that someone made the brackets for...works good! For sale...$100. Pics on request.

JJR · 01-10-2003, 05:19 PM

Yes PICKMUP the bottom pulley is for the crank and it bolted to the existing double pulley that was cast on the balancer on the Van and Nova. The C-10 did not have it, that is just an extra one I had lying around. Both the Van and the Nova ran the PS off this pulley (the third one out). The middle one was used for the A/C compressor on the Nova and an Air Pump on the Van. I know the Nova had the later style PS pump (I can't remember about the Van). I have a PS pump off a 70 C-10 but have not tried to install it to see if there are any line-up problems (It bolts to the brackets fine). I am not in a big hurry to convert to PS but one of these weekends I will get around to it.

72c10 · 01-10-2003, 07:10 PM

I have a compleate 250 with ps sitting in my driveway. It came out of my 72c10 whitch im in the prosess of installing a 350 tpi. if you need any parts and you think that they will fit let me know

JHickson6 · 01-10-2003, 08:39 PM

here's what i got, its a 250

JHickson6 · 01-10-2003, 08:40 PM

and

XXL · 01-10-2003, 10:16 PM

Here are some pics of my truck's p/s stuff. Although I'm second owner, the original owner was quite the mechanic/tinkerer/hack... so I don't know if this is correct setup or not.

Kenneth

XXL · 01-10-2003, 10:17 PM

another angle...

XXL · 01-10-2003, 10:18 PM

and another...

XXL · 01-10-2003, 10:19 PM

Last one...

01-08-2003, 04:58 AM	#1
firstgencamaros Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Gilbert, AZ Posts: 151	Attn straight six owners Hello all, I need to see how the power steering brackets go on a straight six. I got a bracket set-up from a fellow board member and am having a little trouble seeing how they bolt on. Any help "pics" would be great. Thanks, Jason __________________ FGC

01-08-2003, 05:13 AM	#2
O'l Buck Recovering Truck Driver Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Orleans, NE USA Posts: 1,883	sorry I can't help you out, my boat has a 250 chevy, but no power steering.....dang it __________________ 67 K-20 350, SM465, Eaton rear, 4.56 no spin option 00 Dodge 2500 4x4, 24V cummins, 5 speed Chad South Central Nebraska

01-09-2003, 10:46 PM	#3
firstgencamaros Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Gilbert, AZ Posts: 151	C'mon someone has to have a pic of a truck out there with a straight six with power steering on it....... Help a brother out...lol... __________________ FGC

01-10-2003, 01:38 AM	#4
PICKMUP "Trucks with Class" Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: OLYMPIA, WA, USA Posts: 8,143	I'm Checking! Let's see if I have a pic. __________________ Email: frankeham@comcast.net Phone: 360-956-7170

01-10-2003, 01:44 AM	#5
PICKMUP "Trucks with Class" Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: OLYMPIA, WA, USA Posts: 8,143	That didn't work! Again--Any help? Attached Images __________________ Email: frankeham@comcast.net Phone: 360-956-7170

01-10-2003, 02:45 AM	#6
alta-aj Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Qualicum Beach, B.C>, Canada Posts: 117	What size engine is it The reason you may be having problems is that you possibly have the wrong parts. That is that the brackets for a 250 are different than for a 292 because of the bypass hose on the thermostat housing on a 292, and as well, the 292 is a taller engine so the bracketry for the alternator is also different. FYI, 292 brackets are EXTREMELY hard to find altough I do have one set. 250 brackets can be as well but you'll find them from time to time in j.y.

01-10-2003, 03:02 AM	#7
firstgencamaros Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Gilbert, AZ Posts: 151	Yes that helps. I have the wrong bracket. If the one in the pic is the right one for a 250. The brackets that bolt to the pump are right just the one that bolts to the motor is different. It wont clear the intake manifold. Thanks. Have any 250 brackets laying around? Jason __________________ FGC

01-10-2003, 08:48 AM	#8
JJR Registered User Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Leesburg, GA Posts: 746	You probably have a set of brackets off a 250 with an integrated head. I have an extra set of brackets but I don't know if I would want to separate just the one bracket. I do have one engine bracket of a 71 C-10. If this picture shows, The bracket on the left is off the 71 C-10. The middle brackets are off a 73 Van and the right brackets are off a 74 Nova. Notice the difference in pulley size on the Nova. Attached Images __________________ FOUNDING MEMBER OF THE DRUM BRAKE CLUB Second Owner 70 C-10 Second Owner 93 GMC C1500 Third Owner 99 C2500 Crew Cab Short Bed

01-10-2003, 03:08 PM	#9
PICKMUP "Trucks with Class" Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: OLYMPIA, WA, USA Posts: 8,143	JJR Are those crank pulleys at the bottom of the picture? All of the 6cyl PS I have had used a double grooved cast crank balancer that went into the crank...didn't bolt on. Some of the later motors (after 72) used wider spacing between the belt grooves and won't work with our early crank balancers/pulleys. I have used the whole package from a later motor, but you have to get EVERYTHING. Then the timing mark doesn't line up, so you have to remark the later balancer. One of my customers couldn't figure it out, so he drove the PS pump off the WP pulley instead of crank pulley. Worked great! Six cyl PS is a pain, but worth it! I converted my 250 PS to fit the 292 when I changed engines...that was a real exercise in cutting/grinding & welding. __________________ Email: frankeham@comcast.net Phone: 360-956-7170

01-10-2003, 03:10 PM	#10
PICKMUP "Trucks with Class" Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: OLYMPIA, WA, USA Posts: 8,143	292 PS Oh, I have a 292 PS sys that someone made the brackets for...works good! For sale...$100. Pics on request. __________________ Email: frankeham@comcast.net Phone: 360-956-7170

01-10-2003, 05:19 PM	#11
JJR Registered User Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Leesburg, GA Posts: 746	Yes PICKMUP the bottom pulley is for the crank and it bolted to the existing double pulley that was cast on the balancer on the Van and Nova. The C-10 did not have it, that is just an extra one I had lying around. Both the Van and the Nova ran the PS off this pulley (the third one out). The middle one was used for the A/C compressor on the Nova and an Air Pump on the Van. I know the Nova had the later style PS pump (I can't remember about the Van). I have a PS pump off a 70 C-10 but have not tried to install it to see if there are any line-up problems (It bolts to the brackets fine). I am not in a big hurry to convert to PS but one of these weekends I will get around to it. __________________ FOUNDING MEMBER OF THE DRUM BRAKE CLUB Second Owner 70 C-10 Second Owner 93 GMC C1500 Third Owner 99 C2500 Crew Cab Short Bed

01-10-2003, 07:10 PM	#12
72c10 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: burlington KY Posts: 175	I have a compleate 250 with ps sitting in my driveway. It came out of my 72c10 whitch im in the prosess of installing a 350 tpi. if you need any parts and you think that they will fit let me know

01-10-2003, 08:39 PM	#13
JHickson6 I Love This Stuff! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Posts: 739	here's what i got, its a 250 Attached Images __________________ My Rides 1967 C10 In Pieces for now 1985 Ford B700 SourPuss Bus - BIG BLUE 2003 Silverado CITY WORKER YELLOW!!

01-10-2003, 08:40 PM	#14
JHickson6 I Love This Stuff! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Posts: 739	and Attached Images __________________ My Rides 1967 C10 In Pieces for now 1985 Ford B700 SourPuss Bus - BIG BLUE 2003 Silverado CITY WORKER YELLOW!!

01-10-2003, 10:16 PM	#15
XXL Señor Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Edge of the world Posts: 5,367	Here are some pics of my truck's p/s stuff. Although I'm second owner, the original owner was quite the mechanic/tinkerer/hack... so I don't know if this is correct setup or not. Kenneth Attached Images __________________ Craigslist \| ebay \| Engrishtees \| www.myattitudesucks.com \| Follow me on Twitter



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