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landon4421 · 01-23-2003, 07:52 PM

I broke my second carrier bearing today. it has happened twice in the last month. Granted I have a lead foot and all but come on. I am not mashing the motor or nothing, well ok mabe on the highway. Should it be breaking this much?

Dose someone make one other than the ones you get at the auto parts stores, kregens and such? These one are weak or something?

Anyone got any ideas?

heres a pic of where it is breaking at. thanks inadvance, Landon

DanoDMano · 01-23-2003, 08:01 PM

I had a similar problem myself. I went thru two in two weeks. I found that some of the cheaper carrier bearings were made with real crappy spotwelds that didnt hold very good.
There was very little heat penetration on the spotwelds.

I bought a better bearing from Napa auto parts, and have been happy since...

Hope this helps.

landon4421 · 01-23-2003, 08:08 PM

Thanks danodmano, I'll check out napa.

Any other ideas?

Could I put a solid drive line in the truck? I am thinking that the frame brace, would be in the way and I don't want to take it out. Would it work?

jays68yak · 01-23-2003, 08:13 PM

look for the ploy mounts, they look like they have better bases.

Yellow Cheyenne · 01-23-2003, 08:20 PM

Just some guesses here for things to look at. From the photo, it looks like the bearing is being pushed forward. With that in mind, are the rear trailing arms in good shape, not rusted? Are the large ubolts that connect the trailing arms to the rear housing tight? Are the trailing arm bushings in good shape? Anything that would allow too much front/back movement of the rear axle housing may cause the carrier bearing to fail. Is the bearing getting fully seated when you install it? The only actual failure of these that I have seen is rusted trailing arms where the u-bolts attach to the housing. They started to collapse which allowed the housing to move forward. Just some things to look for and be aware of.

landon4421 · 01-25-2003, 02:34 AM

I will look into what you have suggested Yellow Cheyenne. Thank you for the input on this problum. Landon

I will let everyone know what I find out. I am just learning all about these trucks, It is fun I would hate to try and work on something like my 2001 chevy duramax, can not even see the engine. OK not as much as you can see under the hood of my girls '71. Thanks again, Landon

Longhorn Man · 01-26-2003, 01:03 AM

IOf it is from forward and rear movement, check to see if the 2 shafts are sliding easily on the splined section.

crazy longhorn · 01-26-2003, 01:19 AM

the hanger style carrier doesnt have a slipe yolk in the middle like on our longhorns, it should just be bolted together. i had a lot of problems with that style carrier on my 1/2 ton trucks....without the slip & slide it works the hell out of the rubber. the heavy set up in the longhorns, & other 3/4 ton trucks seem to be a good setup.....mine has sure seen a lot of abuse! Sorry i dont have any words of wisdom on the situation, other than check the things the rest of the guys have mentioned. good luck....crazyL

Longhorn Man · 01-26-2003, 01:25 AM

Cool, thanks for the correction Al.

crazy longhorn · 01-26-2003, 01:30 AM

Longhorn, can you dig up a pic of that carrier that neon Larry posted a couple weeks back? It was billet/urethane i think

Longhorn Man · 01-26-2003, 01:46 AM

Hmmm...Give me a min...

Longhorn Man · 01-26-2003, 01:50 AM

I suck with that search feature...I can never find anything on that thing.
Sorry.

crazy longhorn · 01-26-2003, 01:55 AM

I cant remember the name of that site, but I think that aftermarket carrier might be the way to go.... its built stout

crazy longhorn · 01-26-2003, 02:04 AM

Here it is..... http://www.iedls.com/bearings.html

Longhorn Man · 01-26-2003, 02:16 AM

Just soke to him...he said it didn't fit.
Bummer huh?

crazy longhorn · 01-26-2003, 02:18 AM

Yup, that is a bummer....

neonlarry · 01-26-2003, 02:25 AM

Yea, it didn't fit. The part that mounts to the bracket is too wide. I am going to see if I can have it machined down to fit, but I am not sure if that will work. I will post something about it again when I find out if that will work or not.

jhwkns · 01-26-2003, 03:26 AM

Your driveline may need to be balanced. This can cause the carrier bearing to fail as yours did.

01-23-2003, 07:52 PM	#1
landon4421 Life is Good ! Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Hollister, Ca. Posts: 1,992	carrier bearing help ! I broke my second carrier bearing today. it has happened twice in the last month. Granted I have a lead foot and all but come on. I am not mashing the motor or nothing, well ok mabe on the highway. Should it be breaking this much? Dose someone make one other than the ones you get at the auto parts stores, kregens and such? These one are weak or something? Anyone got any ideas? heres a pic of where it is breaking at. thanks inadvance, Landon Attached Images __________________ '72 Chevy C10 4x4 shortbed "Project" '71 Chevy C10 2wd longbed "partsrunner" '91 Chevy Burb 4x4 "kidrunner" '14 Honda Accord Sport "commuter"

01-23-2003, 08:01 PM	#2
DanoDMano Pronounced "Pew-al-up" Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Puyallup, Washington Posts: 845	I had a similar problem myself. I went thru two in two weeks. I found that some of the cheaper carrier bearings were made with real crappy spotwelds that didnt hold very good. There was very little heat penetration on the spotwelds. I bought a better bearing from Napa auto parts, and have been happy since... Hope this helps. __________________ Classic GM Trucks of Washington Club Member 1970 FS chevy,350/350, Edelbrock cam and intake. Holley 650 carb,HEI,AT,Tangier Orange, 18's, Power Locks, Truck Photos

01-23-2003, 08:08 PM	#3
landon4421 Life is Good ! Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Hollister, Ca. Posts: 1,992	Thanks danodmano, I'll check out napa. Any other ideas? Could I put a solid drive line in the truck? I am thinking that the frame brace, would be in the way and I don't want to take it out. Would it work? __________________ '72 Chevy C10 4x4 shortbed "Project" '71 Chevy C10 2wd longbed "partsrunner" '91 Chevy Burb 4x4 "kidrunner" '14 Honda Accord Sport "commuter"

01-23-2003, 08:13 PM	#4
jays68yak Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Gilroy, CA Posts: 1,454	look for the ploy mounts, they look like they have better bases. __________________ 1969 Chevy Project SWB Fleet, 20s, 5.3, t56, in the weeds. 1970 Chevy Truck cab on a 1979 Jimmy frame-8.1 liter 496 bbc/sm465/np203-jeds doubler-np205/d60/14bff Welded/42 tsls on recentered H1s 1998 Chevy Crew Cab K3500 SAS'd with hpd60, links and swayaway coilovers. 8.1l vortec DD/towrig "I like long walks, especially when they are taken by people who annoy me. "

01-23-2003, 08:20 PM	#5
Yellow Cheyenne Registered User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Eastern Kansas Posts: 488	Just some guesses here for things to look at. From the photo, it looks like the bearing is being pushed forward. With that in mind, are the rear trailing arms in good shape, not rusted? Are the large ubolts that connect the trailing arms to the rear housing tight? Are the trailing arm bushings in good shape? Anything that would allow too much front/back movement of the rear axle housing may cause the carrier bearing to fail. Is the bearing getting fully seated when you install it? The only actual failure of these that I have seen is rusted trailing arms where the u-bolts attach to the housing. They started to collapse which allowed the housing to move forward. Just some things to look for and be aware of. __________________ '72 Cheyenne. AC, PS, PB, Rear slider window, tilt. Light yellow (grapefruit yellow according to new sales literature from '72) '56 Chevy short step V-8 (My dad bought it new!!) '70 Olds 442 convertible '70 Olds Rallye 350

01-25-2003, 02:34 AM	#6
landon4421 Life is Good ! Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Hollister, Ca. Posts: 1,992	I will look into what you have suggested Yellow Cheyenne. Thank you for the input on this problum. Landon I will let everyone know what I find out. I am just learning all about these trucks, It is fun I would hate to try and work on something like my 2001 chevy duramax, can not even see the engine. OK not as much as you can see under the hood of my girls '71. Thanks again, Landon __________________ '72 Chevy C10 4x4 shortbed "Project" '71 Chevy C10 2wd longbed "partsrunner" '91 Chevy Burb 4x4 "kidrunner" '14 Honda Accord Sport "commuter"

01-26-2003, 01:03 AM	#7
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	IOf it is from forward and rear movement, check to see if the 2 shafts are sliding easily on the splined section.

01-26-2003, 01:19 AM	#8
crazy longhorn Fabricate till you "puke" Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Ill Posts: 9,403	the hanger style carrier doesnt have a slipe yolk in the middle like on our longhorns, it should just be bolted together. i had a lot of problems with that style carrier on my 1/2 ton trucks....without the slip & slide it works the hell out of the rubber. the heavy set up in the longhorns, & other 3/4 ton trucks seem to be a good setup.....mine has sure seen a lot of abuse! Sorry i dont have any words of wisdom on the situation, other than check the things the rest of the guys have mentioned. good luck....crazyL __________________ 69 longhorn,4" chop,3/5 drop, 1/2 ton suspension/disc brakes,1 1/2" body drop,steel tilt clip, 5.3/Edelbrock rpm intake/600 carb, Hooker streetrod shorties,2 1/2" exhaust/ H pipe/50's Flows , 6 spd Richmond trans,12 bolt/ 3.40 gears....

01-26-2003, 01:25 AM	#9
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	Cool, thanks for the correction Al.

01-26-2003, 01:30 AM	#10
crazy longhorn Fabricate till you "puke" Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Ill Posts: 9,403	Longhorn, can you dig up a pic of that carrier that neon Larry posted a couple weeks back? It was billet/urethane i think __________________ 69 longhorn,4" chop,3/5 drop, 1/2 ton suspension/disc brakes,1 1/2" body drop,steel tilt clip, 5.3/Edelbrock rpm intake/600 carb, Hooker streetrod shorties,2 1/2" exhaust/ H pipe/50's Flows , 6 spd Richmond trans,12 bolt/ 3.40 gears....

01-26-2003, 01:46 AM	#11
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	Hmmm...Give me a min...

01-26-2003, 01:50 AM	#12
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	I suck with that search feature...I can never find anything on that thing. Sorry.

01-26-2003, 01:55 AM	#13
crazy longhorn Fabricate till you "puke" Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Ill Posts: 9,403	I cant remember the name of that site, but I think that aftermarket carrier might be the way to go.... its built stout __________________ 69 longhorn,4" chop,3/5 drop, 1/2 ton suspension/disc brakes,1 1/2" body drop,steel tilt clip, 5.3/Edelbrock rpm intake/600 carb, Hooker streetrod shorties,2 1/2" exhaust/ H pipe/50's Flows , 6 spd Richmond trans,12 bolt/ 3.40 gears....

01-26-2003, 02:04 AM	#14
crazy longhorn Fabricate till you "puke" Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Ill Posts: 9,403	Here it is..... http://www.iedls.com/bearings.html __________________ 69 longhorn,4" chop,3/5 drop, 1/2 ton suspension/disc brakes,1 1/2" body drop,steel tilt clip, 5.3/Edelbrock rpm intake/600 carb, Hooker streetrod shorties,2 1/2" exhaust/ H pipe/50's Flows , 6 spd Richmond trans,12 bolt/ 3.40 gears....

01-26-2003, 02:16 AM	#15
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	Just soke to him...he said it didn't fit. Bummer huh?



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01-26-2003, 02:18 AM	#16
crazy longhorn Fabricate till you "puke" Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Ill Posts: 9,403	Yup, that is a bummer.... __________________ 69 longhorn,4" chop,3/5 drop, 1/2 ton suspension/disc brakes,1 1/2" body drop,steel tilt clip, 5.3/Edelbrock rpm intake/600 carb, Hooker streetrod shorties,2 1/2" exhaust/ H pipe/50's Flows , 6 spd Richmond trans,12 bolt/ 3.40 gears....

01-26-2003, 02:25 AM	#17
neonlarry Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Vacaville, CA Posts: 2,746	Yea, it didn't fit. The part that mounts to the bracket is too wide. I am going to see if I can have it machined down to fit, but I am not sure if that will work. I will post something about it again when I find out if that will work or not. __________________ 70 C/10 Light Red 350/TH350, HEI, Duals w/40 series Flows, 91 seat, LED taillights 99 Pontiac S/C GTP, SLP Ram Air hood, GMPP Konis & springs 95 Neon ACR, MP PCM, AFX UDP, 3.0 CAI

01-26-2003, 03:26 AM	#18
jhwkns Registered Cruiser Join Date: May 2002 Location: Las Vegas NV Posts: 2,230	Your driveline may need to be balanced. This can cause the carrier bearing to fail as yours did. __________________ I intend to live forever. So far, so good.

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