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fallensoldier45 · 07-07-2008, 05:11 PM

hey guys.
i started work on my 86 2wd last weekend. she got hit and tweaked the frame. working on an lt1 conversion. i was wondering i want to get rid of the leaf springs and just run airbags on the back. anyone have ideas on how to do this. can you do a 2 link setup with a panhard bar or is it easier to just do the four link setup.
also i was wondering the best place to find interior parts like the plastic panels next to the seats where the top mount for the seatbelt is and the top rear panel of the headliner.
anyone have ideas for blacked out taillights. like where to find them or how to do them

BLE 'BURBAN · 07-07-2008, 08:19 PM

I took my tail light lenses as well as my side marker, front turn signal and clearance lights to a local body shop and had them all "smoked" Basicaly all they do is mix a little bit of black paint in with a lot of clear coat (Don't know the ratio) then they sprayed the outer face. $200.00 later and I'm all blacked out but the lights still illuminate properly.

fallensoldier45 · 07-08-2008, 12:35 AM

alright thanks man. im really interested in doing that. one thing i dont know is the legality of it. anyone familiar with utah laws and dark lenses

BLE 'BURBAN · 07-08-2008, 01:33 AM

Up here the law states that the lights must be visible from 750 ft away at night and the brake lights from a minimum of 1000 ft away

tobiahr · 07-08-2008, 10:05 AM

I don think it legal to smoke your lenses in Utah.
http://le.utah.gov/~code/TITLE41/htm/41_06a160400.htm
Except as provided under Subsections (2)(b)(ii), (2)(c), and Section 41-6a-1612, all stop lamps or other lamps and reflectors mounted on the rear of a vehicle shall display or reflect a red color.

The Section 41-6a-1612 covers backup lights.
Maybe it depend upon interpretation because it does say or not and but I don't think its allowed.

72 CustomCamper · 07-08-2008, 05:42 PM

Here's how you can do away with the leafs and it bolts in...

http://www.classictrucks.com/tech/08.../photo_14.html

Chuck

fallensoldier45 · 07-08-2008, 06:07 PM

alright thanks for the help guys now i just need help on the blazer interior parts

BLE 'BURBAN · 07-08-2008, 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tobiahr

I don think it legal to smoke your lenses in Utah.
http://le.utah.gov/~code/TITLE41/htm/41_06a160400.htm
Except as provided under Subsections (2)(b)(ii), (2)(c), and Section 41-6a-1612, all stop lamps or other lamps and reflectors mounted on the rear of a vehicle shall display or reflect a red color.

The Section 41-6a-1612 covers backup lights.
Maybe it depend upon interpretation because it does say or not and but I don't think its allowed.

So then all the vehicles with factory blacked out taillights are illeagal to own/operate in Utah?

tobiahr · 07-09-2008, 09:17 AM

i don't know of any US made vehicle with factory black outs. i'm not saying there aren't any just that i dont know of one. and the law there just states that it must display or reflect red. i think the or is the key word. it may be legal i don't know. but the link goes directly to the law regarding tailights

BLE 'BURBAN · 07-09-2008, 05:38 PM

Understood. Thanks for the clarification.

Fallen, I'll try to get some pics of my lenses posted on here later on.

BLE 'BURBAN · 07-11-2008, 06:14 PM

Here's the pics of my smoked lenses I promised.
My revers lenses got a bit over heated and melted when I got stuck last winter and left it in reverse for too long with the 55 watt halogen bulbs in them !!!

BLE 'BURBAN · 07-11-2008, 06:17 PM

And the clearance lights on top

BLE 'BURBAN · 07-11-2008, 06:55 PM

They do look alot brighter at night but I'm not getting up @ 2:30 A.M. to take pics of them in the summer time up here!!!! LOL

fallensoldier45 · 07-12-2008, 12:56 AM

so were those painted or do they have the tint on them??

BLE 'BURBAN · 07-12-2008, 02:11 AM

They were painted with a mixture of clearcoat and black paint. I don't know what exact ratio they used but it was definatly more clearcoat than black.

fallensoldier45 · 07-12-2008, 04:12 AM

alright. thanks for the help man. i am friends with the local inspection cop so i will have to see if this will be legal to do here

BLE 'BURBAN · 07-12-2008, 04:55 AM

Overcast at 1 a.m. on Saturday moring so it was dark enough to get some night pics. I also rewired the outer most clearance lights to flash with my front turnsignals.

BLE 'BURBAN · 07-12-2008, 04:57 AM

Forgot the clearance lights

fallensoldier45 · 07-13-2008, 05:04 AM

hey thanks for all the help man. im going to give the body shop a call and see how much it will cost to do this.

**N2TRUX** · 07-13-2008, 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 72 CustomCamper

Here's how you can do away with the leafs and it bolts in...

http://www.classictrucks.com/tech/08.../photo_14.html

Chuck

Chuck I don't think that will work here. The article you linked to is great but it pertains to a 73-87 truck. The rear portion of the frame for a Blazer is totally different.

I looked on the CPP site and couldn't locate the kit, but I don't "think" they offer an application for a Blazer.

GMBowtie79 · 07-19-2008, 01:02 AM

On the blacked out tail lights subject. There is a article in Sept 08 Sport Truck Magazine (page 72-73) that shows how to and what to use.

68GMC454 · 07-19-2008, 03:28 AM

not sure if its legal here in utah or not.. but i would expect to get pulled over or not pass inspection.. this year they measured the light out put on my old car.. i wouldnt do it myself, with the way everybody here in utah thinks they are on a race track, i want them to see me

07-07-2008, 05:11 PM	#1
fallensoldier45 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: kanab utah Posts: 8	need help on parts and airbags hey guys. i started work on my 86 2wd last weekend. she got hit and tweaked the frame. working on an lt1 conversion. i was wondering i want to get rid of the leaf springs and just run airbags on the back. anyone have ideas on how to do this. can you do a 2 link setup with a panhard bar or is it easier to just do the four link setup. also i was wondering the best place to find interior parts like the plastic panels next to the seats where the top mount for the seatbelt is and the top rear panel of the headliner. anyone have ideas for blacked out taillights. like where to find them or how to do them

07-07-2008, 08:19 PM	#2
BLE 'BURBAN In the Forgotten far North. Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Anchorage, Alaska Posts: 2,627	Re: need help on parts and airbags I took my tail light lenses as well as my side marker, front turn signal and clearance lights to a local body shop and had them all "smoked" Basicaly all they do is mix a little bit of black paint in with a lot of clear coat (Don't know the ratio) then they sprayed the outer face. $200.00 later and I'm all blacked out but the lights still illuminate properly. __________________ 1987 R3500 CREW CAB DUALLY (BIG RED)Acquired 06/12/2015 1990 chevy suburban V2500 5.7L My cluster Mods-Nov 2007 overhead console Stereo install Round 2 Aug 2009 Heated/turn signal mirror upgrade

07-08-2008, 12:35 AM	#3
fallensoldier45 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: kanab utah Posts: 8	Re: need help on parts and airbags alright thanks man. im really interested in doing that. one thing i dont know is the legality of it. anyone familiar with utah laws and dark lenses

07-08-2008, 01:33 AM	#4
BLE 'BURBAN In the Forgotten far North. Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Anchorage, Alaska Posts: 2,627	Re: need help on parts and airbags Up here the law states that the lights must be visible from 750 ft away at night and the brake lights from a minimum of 1000 ft away __________________ 1987 R3500 CREW CAB DUALLY (BIG RED)Acquired 06/12/2015 1990 chevy suburban V2500 5.7L My cluster Mods-Nov 2007 overhead console Stereo install Round 2 Aug 2009 Heated/turn signal mirror upgrade

07-08-2008, 10:05 AM	#5
tobiahr Registered User Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Lincoln NE Posts: 513	Re: need help on parts and airbags I don think it legal to smoke your lenses in Utah. http://le.utah.gov/~code/TITLE41/htm/41_06a160400.htm Except as provided under Subsections (2)(b)(ii), (2)(c), and Section 41-6a-1612, all stop lamps or other lamps and reflectors mounted on the rear of a vehicle shall display or reflect a red color. The Section 41-6a-1612 covers backup lights. Maybe it depend upon interpretation because it does say or not and but I don't think its allowed.

07-08-2008, 05:42 PM	#6
72 CustomCamper huh ??? Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Fredericksburg,Va. Posts: 3,368	Re: need help on parts and airbags Here's how you can do away with the leafs and it bolts in... http://www.classictrucks.com/tech/08.../photo_14.html Chuck __________________ 90 Blazer Silverado 350w/ 700R4 and 32" Kelly's "I am a bomb technician. If you see me running try to keep up!"

07-08-2008, 06:07 PM	#7
fallensoldier45 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: kanab utah Posts: 8	Re: need help on parts and airbags alright thanks for the help guys now i just need help on the blazer interior parts

07-09-2008, 09:17 AM	#9
tobiahr Registered User Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Lincoln NE Posts: 513	Re: need help on parts and airbags i don't know of any US made vehicle with factory black outs. i'm not saying there aren't any just that i dont know of one. and the law there just states that it must display or reflect red. i think the or is the key word. it may be legal i don't know. but the link goes directly to the law regarding tailights Last edited by tobiahr; 07-09-2008 at 09:21 AM.

07-09-2008, 05:38 PM	#10
BLE 'BURBAN In the Forgotten far North. Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Anchorage, Alaska Posts: 2,627	Re: need help on parts and airbags Understood. Thanks for the clarification. Fallen, I'll try to get some pics of my lenses posted on here later on. __________________ 1987 R3500 CREW CAB DUALLY (BIG RED)Acquired 06/12/2015 1990 chevy suburban V2500 5.7L My cluster Mods-Nov 2007 overhead console Stereo install Round 2 Aug 2009 Heated/turn signal mirror upgrade

07-11-2008, 06:14 PM	#11
BLE 'BURBAN In the Forgotten far North. Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Anchorage, Alaska Posts: 2,627	Re: need help on parts and airbags Here's the pics of my smoked lenses I promised. My revers lenses got a bit over heated and melted when I got stuck last winter and left it in reverse for too long with the 55 watt halogen bulbs in them !!! Attached Images __________________ 1987 R3500 CREW CAB DUALLY (BIG RED)Acquired 06/12/2015 1990 chevy suburban V2500 5.7L My cluster Mods-Nov 2007 overhead console Stereo install Round 2 Aug 2009 Heated/turn signal mirror upgrade Last edited by BLE 'BURBAN; 07-11-2008 at 06:35 PM.

07-11-2008, 06:17 PM	#12
BLE 'BURBAN In the Forgotten far North. Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Anchorage, Alaska Posts: 2,627	Re: need help on parts and airbags And the clearance lights on top Attached Images __________________ 1987 R3500 CREW CAB DUALLY (BIG RED)Acquired 06/12/2015 1990 chevy suburban V2500 5.7L My cluster Mods-Nov 2007 overhead console Stereo install Round 2 Aug 2009 Heated/turn signal mirror upgrade

07-11-2008, 06:55 PM	#13
BLE 'BURBAN In the Forgotten far North. Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Anchorage, Alaska Posts: 2,627	Re: need help on parts and airbags They do look alot brighter at night but I'm not getting up @ 2:30 A.M. to take pics of them in the summer time up here!!!! LOL __________________ 1987 R3500 CREW CAB DUALLY (BIG RED)Acquired 06/12/2015 1990 chevy suburban V2500 5.7L My cluster Mods-Nov 2007 overhead console Stereo install Round 2 Aug 2009 Heated/turn signal mirror upgrade Last edited by BLE 'BURBAN; 07-11-2008 at 06:56 PM.

07-12-2008, 12:56 AM	#14
fallensoldier45 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: kanab utah Posts: 8	Re: need help on parts and airbags so were those painted or do they have the tint on them??

07-12-2008, 02:11 AM	#15
BLE 'BURBAN In the Forgotten far North. Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Anchorage, Alaska Posts: 2,627	Re: need help on parts and airbags They were painted with a mixture of clearcoat and black paint. I don't know what exact ratio they used but it was definatly more clearcoat than black. __________________ 1987 R3500 CREW CAB DUALLY (BIG RED)Acquired 06/12/2015 1990 chevy suburban V2500 5.7L My cluster Mods-Nov 2007 overhead console Stereo install Round 2 Aug 2009 Heated/turn signal mirror upgrade

07-12-2008, 04:12 AM	#16
fallensoldier45 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: kanab utah Posts: 8	Re: need help on parts and airbags alright. thanks for the help man. i am friends with the local inspection cop so i will have to see if this will be legal to do here



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07-12-2008, 04:55 AM	#17
BLE 'BURBAN In the Forgotten far North. Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Anchorage, Alaska Posts: 2,627	Re: need help on parts and airbags Overcast at 1 a.m. on Saturday moring so it was dark enough to get some night pics. I also rewired the outer most clearance lights to flash with my front turnsignals. Attached Images __________________ 1987 R3500 CREW CAB DUALLY (BIG RED)Acquired 06/12/2015 1990 chevy suburban V2500 5.7L My cluster Mods-Nov 2007 overhead console Stereo install Round 2 Aug 2009 Heated/turn signal mirror upgrade

07-12-2008, 04:57 AM	#18
BLE 'BURBAN In the Forgotten far North. Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Anchorage, Alaska Posts: 2,627	Re: need help on parts and airbags Forgot the clearance lights Attached Images __________________ 1987 R3500 CREW CAB DUALLY (BIG RED)Acquired 06/12/2015 1990 chevy suburban V2500 5.7L My cluster Mods-Nov 2007 overhead console Stereo install Round 2 Aug 2009 Heated/turn signal mirror upgrade

07-13-2008, 05:04 AM	#19
fallensoldier45 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: kanab utah Posts: 8	Re: need help on parts and airbags hey thanks for all the help man. im going to give the body shop a call and see how much it will cost to do this.

07-19-2008, 01:02 AM	#21
GMBowtie79 Surviving, one day at a time! Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Turlock,CA Posts: 295	Re: need help on parts and airbags On the blacked out tail lights subject. There is a article in Sept 08 Sport Truck Magazine (page 72-73) that shows how to and what to use. __________________ 79 Burb,350,tremic 5 spd, 4 wheel disc, daily driver 74 swb,350,350,driver & future project "There's no such thing as a finished project" Last edited by GMBowtie79; 07-19-2008 at 01:02 AM.

07-19-2008, 03:28 AM	#22
68GMC454 THE VILLIAGE IDIOT Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Tooele, Utah Posts: 1,405	Re: need help on parts and airbags not sure if its legal here in utah or not.. but i would expect to get pulled over or not pass inspection.. this year they measured the light out put on my old car.. i wouldnt do it myself, with the way everybody here in utah thinks they are on a race track, i want them to see me __________________ honestly honey,,i have no idea how that truck got here.

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