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Blue_71 · 06-05-2008, 12:45 AM

ive seen those wheels once before on some kind of company truck in a junkyard... this one was a blue C20 fleetside, with red wheels

i have the tailgate off of it on my 69

jott_06 · 06-05-2008, 07:04 AM

i think it would be pretty cool to build a lowered C-20 for those wheels. You'd have 19 inch steelies.

factorystock · 06-05-2008, 07:33 PM

The tall wheels were mainly used on 4X4's for extra high ground clearance, especially for forestry and fire fighting vehicles. In 1969, the 17" , 17.5" and 19.5" were discontinued for pickups. The 19.5" is still a popular tire size( highway tread) today after 50 + years since introduction.

ed2552 · 06-05-2008, 07:39 PM

the new F450's have the shiny aluminum rims as 19.5's

tcb-1 · 06-05-2008, 08:01 PM

I thought those type of high ground clearance, negative offset rims were used on railroad going rigs. I think LMC has a pic of a Union Pacific 'Burb on those.

I'll check when I run by there after work sometime......

**special-K** · 06-05-2008, 08:06 PM

I remember when GM put out the 3500HD in`92 guys were saying GM screwed up going with an oddball size.Well,Ford saw the light bulb (Better Idea) and switched the Super Duties over.Anymore,what is an oddball size?It`s getting to be 15s.

I had a long Stepside in factory special paint.It was light grey and the 16.5 wheels were red...from factory.Had markings on the rim inside the beads.

BurnerBrown · 06-05-2008, 08:09 PM

when i got my 68 is had 17.5s. I had to take it down the turnpike on the way home those old bias ply's were all over the road, i think the truck had been sitting a long time and tires had flat spots. still have the 17.5 spare under it.

LONGHAIR · 06-05-2008, 08:12 PM

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I thought those type of high ground clearance, negative offset rims were used on railroad going rigs. I think LMC has a pic of a Union Pacific 'Burb on those.

I'll check when I run by there after work sometime......

That was the first thing I thought, when I saw them. The off-set makes them match the track width, so the truck can run on the rails.

tcb-1 · 06-05-2008, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by LONGHAIR

That was the first thing I thought, when I saw them. The off-set makes them match the track width, so the truck can run on the rails.

if the truck wasn't in truck heaven right now, I would have been curious if there were any "high rail" wheel set mounts on it.

found an example of a late model rig on high rail wheels..

http://pw1.netcom.com/~bccaparsons/CN06_25.jpg

**special-K** · 06-06-2008, 07:32 PM

Those wheels on railway service vehicls are special.The Budd-type singles won`t Necessarily fit the track.

Jim_PA · 06-06-2008, 11:27 PM

Stay away from my truck, you'd send it right to the crusher too.

67_C-30 · 06-06-2008, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by special-K

Those wheels on railway service vehicls are special.The Budd-type singles won`t Necessarily fit the track.

Yeah, they are offset much like a dually wheel. I had 6 of them that I thought about using as duals on my '67 (and they would have) but they had 8 small round holes and I didn't like the look of them. I wish the 18" wheels on my dump truck weren't split wheels. I love the look of them. They have 8 D shaped hand holes. I still may end up having my original 17.5 wheels powercoated white and using them since 17.5" highway tires are syill readily available. They look much bigger than the 16's I'm using now!

old Chevy guy · 06-06-2008, 11:55 PM

My 61 3500GMC had 17.5 wheels on it and 16's or 16.5's wouldent fit on the back cause the drums were so big. Another truck I put floors and rockers in for a guy a72GMC 3500 had 18 inch 10 bolt wheels on it, the same pattern as my c60.It was a box truck originaly,I never saw or heard of another one like that.

**JQ-72** · 06-07-2008, 12:48 AM

I don't think they were railroad application wheels - no real off set. The front & rear drums on the truck were standard. The tires ran in the exact same path on my trailer that all the other trucks I have loaded did. I believe the offset is about the same as on other trucks - they are just TALL. Maybe they were for the gas shortage of the early 70's - better gas mileage!!!!

JQ

**JQ-72** · 07-22-2008, 11:53 PM

I got some new rims for my K-20. While I had my tires off to go to the shop, I put these 19.5's on just for looks!
JQ

Chevyman680063 · 07-23-2008, 04:03 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lgl7do4So6w&feature...

*Shane* · 07-23-2008, 10:09 AM

what does that video have to do with 19" wheels?

Ol'Rover · 07-23-2008, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Shane

what does that video have to do with 19" wheels?

nothing. He put it on in respect to the truck that got crushed.

factorystock · 07-25-2008, 07:05 PM

In the 50's and 60's, if you needed ground clearance, you would order the maximum 17.5" wheels for 1/2 tons and maximum 19.5" wheels for 3/4 tons from the factory. Nobody back then ran to the local tire shop for a set of mags and 33" swampers. Buyers back then were a different breed, and weren't interested in showing off, they had a job to do.

06-05-2008, 07:04 AM	#27
jott_06 Camaro Club Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: ohio Posts: 472	Re: C-20 on 19's!! (not what you think) i think it would be pretty cool to build a lowered C-20 for those wheels. You'd have 19 inch steelies.

06-05-2008, 07:33 PM	#28
factorystock Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: west coast Posts: 3,369	Re: C-20 on 19's!! (not what you think) The tall wheels were mainly used on 4X4's for extra high ground clearance, especially for forestry and fire fighting vehicles. In 1969, the 17" , 17.5" and 19.5" were discontinued for pickups. The 19.5" is still a popular tire size( highway tread) today after 50 + years since introduction.

06-05-2008, 07:39 PM	#29
ed2552 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Charles City IA Posts: 1,626	Re: C-20 on 19's!! (not what you think) the new F450's have the shiny aluminum rims as 19.5's __________________ '67 C20, Under the Knife!, LWB, Eaton HO-52, Rear Coil Springs 72' GMC C2500, 350, TH400(?), Dana 60 '67 K10 4-spd., 305, SM465, Dana 44, 12 Bolt, RUST! '65 C60 292, 4 spd, 2 spd Rearend, 15' Grain Box, MINT! 09 Yukon Denali 82k Miles 6.2L/6A

06-05-2008, 08:01 PM	#30
tcb-1 Nothing to see here..... Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Shawnee, KS Posts: 4,625	Re: C-20 on 19's!! (not what you think) I thought those type of high ground clearance, negative offset rims were used on railroad going rigs. I think LMC has a pic of a Union Pacific 'Burb on those. I'll check when I run by there after work sometime...... __________________ Doug THANK YOU to our American Soldiers & Veterans - POW MIA "You will NEVER be forgotten". The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not. Thomas Jefferson

06-05-2008, 08:06 PM	#31
special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,861	Re: C-20 on 19's!! (not what you think) I remember when GM put out the 3500HD in`92 guys were saying GM screwed up going with an oddball size.Well,Ford saw the light bulb (Better Idea) and switched the Super Duties over.Anymore,what is an oddball size?It`s getting to be 15s. I had a long Stepside in factory special paint.It was light grey and the 16.5 wheels were red...from factory.Had markings on the rim inside the beads. __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~

06-05-2008, 08:09 PM	#32
BurnerBrown Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Landsale PA Posts: 82	Re: C-20 on 19's!! (not what you think) when i got my 68 is had 17.5s. I had to take it down the turnpike on the way home those old bias ply's were all over the road, i think the truck had been sitting a long time and tires had flat spots. still have the 17.5 spare under it.

06-06-2008, 07:32 PM	#35
special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,861	Re: C-20 on 19's!! (not what you think) Those wheels on railway service vehicls are special.The Budd-type singles won`t Necessarily fit the track. __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~

06-06-2008, 11:27 PM	#36
Jim_PA Registered User Join Date: May 2005 Location: PA Posts: 2,696	Re: C-20 on 19's!! (not what you think) Stay away from my truck, you'd send it right to the crusher too.

06-06-2008, 11:55 PM	#38
old Chevy guy Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Foster Rhode Island Posts: 1,176	Re: C-20 on 19's!! (not what you think) My 61 3500GMC had 17.5 wheels on it and 16's or 16.5's wouldent fit on the back cause the drums were so big. Another truck I put floors and rockers in for a guy a72GMC 3500 had 18 inch 10 bolt wheels on it, the same pattern as my c60.It was a box truck originaly,I never saw or heard of another one like that. Last edited by old Chevy guy; 06-06-2008 at 11:56 PM.

06-07-2008, 12:48 AM	#39
JQ-72 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Killen, Alabama USA Posts: 3,574	Re: C-20 on 19's!! (not what you think) I don't think they were railroad application wheels - no real off set. The front & rear drums on the truck were standard. The tires ran in the exact same path on my trailer that all the other trucks I have loaded did. I believe the offset is about the same as on other trucks - they are just TALL. Maybe they were for the gas shortage of the early 70's - better gas mileage!!!! JQ __________________ 72 Cheyenne Super swb. Factory 402/400,tach,posi,AM/FM, A/C. Adding cruise, 8-track 72 Cheyenne Super swb. 350/350 A/C, bucket seats 72 Cheyenne swb. Factory 402/400, tilt, posi, A/C 72 Cheyenne Super K-10. 350/4 spd., posi. 72 Suburban 350/350 tilt, tach, AM/FM, A/C, luggage rack 72 GMC Sierra lwb. 350/350, A/C. medium green/olive interior

07-22-2008, 11:53 PM	#40
JQ-72 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Killen, Alabama USA Posts: 3,574	Re: C-20 on 19's!! (not what you think) I got some new rims for my K-20. While I had my tires off to go to the shop, I put these 19.5's on just for looks! JQ Attached Images __________________ 72 Cheyenne Super swb. Factory 402/400,tach,posi,AM/FM, A/C. Adding cruise, 8-track 72 Cheyenne Super swb. 350/350 A/C, bucket seats 72 Cheyenne swb. Factory 402/400, tilt, posi, A/C 72 Cheyenne Super K-10. 350/4 spd., posi. 72 Suburban 350/350 tilt, tach, AM/FM, A/C, luggage rack 72 GMC Sierra lwb. 350/350, A/C. medium green/olive interior

07-23-2008, 10:09 AM	#42
Shane Account Suspended Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: over yonder Posts: 14,270	Re: C-20 on 19's!! (not what you think) what does that video have to do with 19" wheels?

07-25-2008, 07:05 PM	#44
factorystock Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: west coast Posts: 3,369	Re: C-20 on 19's!! (not what you think) In the 50's and 60's, if you needed ground clearance, you would order the maximum 17.5" wheels for 1/2 tons and maximum 19.5" wheels for 3/4 tons from the factory. Nobody back then ran to the local tire shop for a set of mags and 33" swampers. Buyers back then were a different breed, and weren't interested in showing off, they had a job to do.



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