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bigd65 · 02-06-2003, 07:54 PM

i read your article on that LRB system valve and want to know how much it ran you. i found it on the web page you had on there DPI.com but i couldnt find a prices. you had made a good point in your atrticle about our brakes being dangerous. i am here to testify about that (X-MAS).

bigd65 · 02-07-2003, 11:15 AM

HELLLLLOOOOOOOO MIKE , are you out there

**swervin ervin** · 02-07-2003, 02:47 PM

Jeff,

I bought my LBS from Stewart Components, but Howard Stewart has sold out to other companies. He sold the LBS to DPI. I have no idea about what they get for it. I have a catalog from them, but no prices. I suggest you either email them or call them.

http://dpiracingproducts.com/contact.php

Mine cost me $99.00 by the time I got it to the house. Was it worth it? Every penny. As you know, if you hit the brakes on our trucks, it's an automatic lockup of the rear wheels. Then what happens? It sliding down the road sideways, totally out of control. After me already reading about this valve, thinking about buying one, but just didn't know if I wanted to spend this much money, I almost hit someone. Someone pulled out in front of me and I hit the brakes, locked the rears up and slid sideways, almost hitting them. Scared the total crap out of me. I ordered the valve the same day. Installed it and loved it. I can hit the brakes now and not lock them up like before. Never loose control because of this.

All I have to say is, it works. And this is coming from the biggest critic in the world. I highly recommend it.

*mike reeh* · 02-07-2003, 04:18 PM

I wonder if that thing would work on my truck with discs in the rear?

Mike: you have any idea why when I slam on the brakes and they lock up, if I let off, it takes about 1 or 1.5 seconds before they release?

mike

**swervin ervin** · 02-07-2003, 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by mike reeh
I wonder if that thing would work on my truck with discs in the rear?

Yes it works with 4 wheel discs, but I believe you have to use two of them. Not sure on this, but I remember reading something about it long ago, back when Howard Stewart still owned Stewart Components. DPI can probably tell you all about.

As far as your brakes not releasing quick enough, I would think the proportioning valve may have something to do with it.

I bet it's something to do with the rears not working right.

Blue Beard · 02-07-2003, 07:56 PM

I am having problems with mine....

Thought it had something to do with the headers heating my brake line.

What have others experienced?

I have four wheel drum brakes...6 lug.

bigd65 · 02-08-2003, 12:27 PM

THANX Mike, i just wanted a ball park figure, they cant want much more or less than STEWART COMPONENTS did. i am going to call them monday. as it is, i drive down the road worring if something like mine or your incidents happen again. i was lucky on my incident.

BTW, do they have to be adjusted or do you just install them and go

82 Silverado 4X · 02-08-2003, 12:58 PM

Yes, It could be the propotioning valve but it also could be the flexible line that comes down to the T on the back axle. These sometimes swell shut with age and prevent the brake fluid from quickly returning to the master cylinder when the brakes are released. Also check the brake springs on both back wheels.

*mike reeh* · 02-08-2003, 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 82 Silverado 4X
Yes, It could be the propotioning valve but it also could be the flexible line that comes down to the T on the back axle. These sometimes swell shut with age and prevent the brake fluid from quickly returning to the master cylinder when the brakes are released. Also check the brake springs on both back wheels.

everything is brand new from the booster, master cylinder, the proportioning valve, the hard lines all the way back to the rear axle, then from there its new braided steel line to new calipers...... ??????????

I believe its something that just not engineered right since the system is sort of home-brew. But its all so simple, it should work. My best guess is that the proportioning valve is designed to work with drums, and for some reason it wont release discs right away... But by-passing the proportioning valve is a BIG job.. one I dont really want to tackle anytime soon

mike

**swervin ervin** · 02-08-2003, 02:13 PM

Jeff,

yes it's a install and go. It's a real simple piece of technology, but it works great.

Mike, if your proportioning valve is for drum brakes, this is probably the problem. I'm not sure what the difference is between the two, but I almost positive a drum brake one won't work right with disc brakes.

82 Silverado 4X · 02-08-2003, 02:37 PM

Could you possibly try a 4 wheel disc brake proportioning valve from a newer car that came from the factory with 4wheel disc? Say a Camaro, Firebird, Monte SS or even GM's midsize frontwheel drive (Lumina, Regal, Cutlass)? These 4wheel disc FWD's have been made since the late 80's and a used valve could be had for almost nothing at a junkyard to just try out.

bill_ont_canada · 02-09-2003, 02:51 AM

Sideways... that scares the Hell out of me just thinking about it.
Please tell me more about this LRB system valve Mike.

**swervin ervin** · 02-09-2003, 01:29 PM

It's LBS, not LRB.

Here's a link to my article.

http://www.73-87.com/garage/lbs.htm

bill_ont_canada · 02-10-2003, 01:40 AM

THANX MIKE this could be another lifesaver.

02-06-2003, 07:54 PM	#1
bigd65 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Clute, TX. Posts: 1,935	Swervin Ervin i read your article on that LRB system valve and want to know how much it ran you. i found it on the web page you had on there DPI.com but i couldnt find a prices. you had made a good point in your atrticle about our brakes being dangerous. i am here to testify about that (X-MAS). __________________ 2004 Silverado Crewcab 1972 Chevy Monte Carlo 2017 Chevy Tahoe

02-07-2003, 11:15 AM	#2
bigd65 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Clute, TX. Posts: 1,935	HELLLLLOOOOOOOO MIKE , are you out there __________________ 2004 Silverado Crewcab 1972 Chevy Monte Carlo 2017 Chevy Tahoe

02-07-2003, 02:47 PM	#3
swervin ervin You get what you pay for Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Cherryville, NC Posts: 4,798	Jeff, I bought my LBS from Stewart Components, but Howard Stewart has sold out to other companies. He sold the LBS to DPI. I have no idea about what they get for it. I have a catalog from them, but no prices. I suggest you either email them or call them. http://dpiracingproducts.com/contact.php Mine cost me $99.00 by the time I got it to the house. Was it worth it? Every penny. As you know, if you hit the brakes on our trucks, it's an automatic lockup of the rear wheels. Then what happens? It sliding down the road sideways, totally out of control. After me already reading about this valve, thinking about buying one, but just didn't know if I wanted to spend this much money, I almost hit someone. Someone pulled out in front of me and I hit the brakes, locked the rears up and slid sideways, almost hitting them. Scared the total crap out of me. I ordered the valve the same day. Installed it and loved it. I can hit the brakes now and not lock them up like before. Never loose control because of this. All I have to say is, it works. And this is coming from the biggest critic in the world. I highly recommend it. __________________ Mike 1985 Chevy C-10

02-07-2003, 07:56 PM	#6
Blue Beard Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Washington State Posts: 8,834	I am having problems with mine.... Thought it had something to do with the headers heating my brake line. What have others experienced? I have four wheel drum brakes...6 lug. __________________ 1970 Chev CST 2003 Harley Fatboy 1975 Chevrolet Step Van 1956 Chev Bel Air 1977 Blazer 2WD For Sale $3000.00 1978 Blazer 2WD For Sale $7000.00 1978 Silverado 2005 Monte Carlo

02-08-2003, 12:27 PM	#7
bigd65 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Clute, TX. Posts: 1,935	THANX Mike, i just wanted a ball park figure, they cant want much more or less than STEWART COMPONENTS did. i am going to call them monday. as it is, i drive down the road worring if something like mine or your incidents happen again. i was lucky on my incident. BTW, do they have to be adjusted or do you just install them and go __________________ 2004 Silverado Crewcab 1972 Chevy Monte Carlo 2017 Chevy Tahoe

02-07-2003, 04:18 PM	#4
mike reeh 5 day ban, learn to behave. Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: san diego, ca Posts: 684	I wonder if that thing would work on my truck with discs in the rear? Mike: you have any idea why when I slam on the brakes and they lock up, if I let off, it takes about 1 or 1.5 seconds before they release? mike

02-08-2003, 12:58 PM	#8
82 Silverado 4X Genuine Chevrolet Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: South West Pennsylvania. Posts: 582	Yes, It could be the propotioning valve but it also could be the flexible line that comes down to the T on the back axle. These sometimes swell shut with age and prevent the brake fluid from quickly returning to the master cylinder when the brakes are released. Also check the brake springs on both back wheels. __________________ George 82 Silverado LWB 4x4 350 SM465 NP208 77 Chevrolet Blazer Chalet 400 TH350 NP203

02-08-2003, 02:13 PM	#10
swervin ervin You get what you pay for Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Cherryville, NC Posts: 4,798	Jeff, yes it's a install and go. It's a real simple piece of technology, but it works great. Mike, if your proportioning valve is for drum brakes, this is probably the problem. I'm not sure what the difference is between the two, but I almost positive a drum brake one won't work right with disc brakes.

02-08-2003, 02:37 PM	#11
82 Silverado 4X Genuine Chevrolet Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: South West Pennsylvania. Posts: 582	Could you possibly try a 4 wheel disc brake proportioning valve from a newer car that came from the factory with 4wheel disc? Say a Camaro, Firebird, Monte SS or even GM's midsize frontwheel drive (Lumina, Regal, Cutlass)? These 4wheel disc FWD's have been made since the late 80's and a used valve could be had for almost nothing at a junkyard to just try out. __________________ George 82 Silverado LWB 4x4 350 SM465 NP208 77 Chevrolet Blazer Chalet 400 TH350 NP203

02-09-2003, 02:51 AM	#12
bill_ont_canada Nobody is perfect... Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: London,Ont,Canada Posts: 200	Sideways... that scares the Hell out of me just thinking about it. Please tell me more about this LRB system valve Mike. __________________ Have a fabulous day. Bill... (ö¿ö) " Loud Pipes Save Lives "

02-09-2003, 01:29 PM	#13
swervin ervin You get what you pay for Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Cherryville, NC Posts: 4,798	It's LBS, not LRB. Here's a link to my article. http://www.73-87.com/garage/lbs.htm __________________ Mike 1985 Chevy C-10

02-10-2003, 01:40 AM	#14
bill_ont_canada Nobody is perfect... Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: London,Ont,Canada Posts: 200	THANX MIKE this could be another lifesaver. __________________ Have a fabulous day. Bill... (ö¿ö) " Loud Pipes Save Lives "



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